FourWheels

I'm currently watching Travel Channel's ResidenSea: The Floating City... the only way I'll ever see the inside of that ship!

sbtier

I saw that program too. It made me even more interested after learning that it doesn't have the usual cruise ship atmosphere, in fact it's more than half empty most of the time and very quiet. I think I'd fit in well with the culture of the ship, if only I could afford it!

edecter

I am trying to arrange an exchange of our home on the ocean in Freeport, Bahamas for the 6 bedroom penthouse on ResidenSea for a few months. Our timing is quite flexible.

I contacted the Management company of ResidenSea, who said this is not possible. I am trying to find a way to contact the owner(s) of the unit(s) directly, in order to see if they would be interested.

Can you help me?

Thank you.

Kagehitokiri

owner's rental rates for 6BR run $4706 > $5165 per night

owner pays $61K monthly maintenance fee, so theyre not going to "exchange" for "a few months"

current sale price is $17.5MM

http://www.destinationclubforums.com...orld-2153.html

edecter

Thank you.

You are correct. I am not in a position to cover $61K monthly maintenance fee. That would defeat the whole purpose of an exchange rather than rental - although it does (partially) explain the prohibitive rental rates.

Do you know whether the fees on a 2, 3 or 4 bedroom unit would make an exchange feasible?

Having said that, it seems likely many of these units sit empty for months at a time - as the rental rates are so prohibitive. In other words, the owners are incurring (and not defraying) the maintenance fees in any event.

Therefore, perhaps an exchange - with the right to terminate or interrupt, if the Unit is sold (or rented for a significant chunk of the exchange period) during the exchange period - would be feasible?

I would also consider including my small house in the mountains 1/2 hour from a ski resort at Panorama, British Columbia (and 1 and 1/2 hours from Lake Louise, Alberta (site of the 1988 downhill ski Olympics).

Thank you

Kagehitokiri

http://www.theworldsuite.com/
http://www.elitetraveler.com/news_de...d-luxury-liner
http://aboardtheworld.com/ownership/...e/residence-47

http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showp...80&postcount=2
says ~$167 per square foot per year (~$14 per month) plus $33,180 per unit per year

prohibitive? direct rates are higher. other cruiselines can get pretty expensive. not to mention yachts. or hotels/villas/islands for that matter.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/12298559-post34.html

there are hotel residences with $2 per square foot per month fees, and hotel COOPs that are $10 per square foot per month. and thats on top of real estate taxes (most countries?) and any utilities/etc that arent included in monthly fee.

Myrtonos

MS the world currently seems to be the only apartement ship in existance at the moment, but it would be inerresting to see more such ships.

Well, let me ask you guys a question; Do trunacy laws apply to residents of the ship, given that many may be stateless as their homes sail the seven seas all the time? Also, how much oppotunites would children onboard have for informal education given all the travelling.

edsh

I doubt that truancy is a concern. People who bring their children on extended year long trips make adjustments for schooling - either homeschooling with their own study materials or hiring and bringing along tutors. For example, I've met a few tutors who live with their employers in the local Four Season hotel as they travel extensively. The Utopia, the sister ship to the World and currently under construction, will have smaller apartments specifically for nannies and tutors.

Myrtonos

I understand what you are saying but this ship isn't part of any country and frequently crosses country borders. I've never heard of any (truely) international trunancy laws, most countries have them but they are national laws that tend to be similar across country borders. So it's not clear whether trunancy laws apply to residents onboard as they don't live in any particular country and may be stateless.

Flyingmama

I doubt any of the residents aboard ship are stateless - at least stateless defined as being without nationality or citizenship. There might be some, of course, but statelessness could cause problems when the ship is in port.

As for children's educations, well, folks who can afford to own and live in an onboard residence in all likelihood can also afford to hire and bring along staff to look after and educate their children. As for educational opportunities - what could be better than traveling? And those long days at sea between ports no doubt provide plenty of time for schooling.

Truancy laws probably do not apply in much the same way they do not apply to home schooled children, or children sent abroad to study.

Myrtonos

In most countries, education of some description is compulsory, this is what trunacy laws require. Do any countries' laws apply on that ship?
You say that folks onboard can afford to educate their children. What sort of education, what subjects are their children to learn?
What would be the most important subjects to learn if one is to spend most of one's life onboard?

ak333

I don't believe that the Utopia has actually started construction yet; I know it's been delayed at least once. I want to see the keel laid before I believe it. There have been so many of these ships that have been proposed, but only the World has been successful.

chornedsnorkack

Residensea flies Bahama flag.

How does Bahama enforce compulsory education on long-term foreign visitors on land/private isles? And how is education enforced on long term passengers of Bahama flagged ships?

cargo13

A world cruise is looking economical to residence @ sea. It wont help with your swapping for a Bahamas home...but it can be planned well in advance (2016 sailings are already available) so you can all the details locked in.



My parents did the world cruise:
http://www.cruisespecialists.com/Vie...s.aspx?flag=11

and felt like the checked into a condo for several months with everything taken care of.

Flyingmama

We are getting way off topic here, but I'll take a stab at answering - with the understanding I can only speak about US laws. In the US, a child is considered truant if he/she is absent without permission from a school in which he/she is registered. Other laws, such as child neglect, may apply if a child has never been registered in school and/or attended school. The exception is home schooling - in most states those children are required to be registered with their local school districts as being home schooled.

As chornedsnorkack noted, the ship flies a Bahamiam flag. And while the Bahamas do have compulsory education up to age 16, enforcement can be a tad iffy. Whether Bahamian law would apply to children of other nationalities aboard the ship is probably something a court would have to decide.

The depth and extent of education would be up to the children's parents, wouldn't it? Or more likely the tutors and/or governesses hired to teach them. If nothing else, children growing up on board would likely be whizzes at geography and navigation --