Premier Pass elite CC scam
#46
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: BUE
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International Transactions: 3% of the U.S. dollar amount of the transaction, whether originally made in U.S. dollars or converted from a foreign currency.
http://www.chase.com/ccp/jsps/cards/...ourcecode=64GZ
Cheers
#47


Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: PDX
Programs: Atmos Gold, HH Diamond, IHG Diamond
Posts: 2,747
Chase also charges 3%. At least for the Continental Airlines co-branded mastercard:
International Transactions: 3% of the U.S. dollar amount of the transaction, whether originally made in U.S. dollars or converted from a foreign currency.
http://www.chase.com/ccp/jsps/cards/...ourcecode=64GZ
Cheers
International Transactions: 3% of the U.S. dollar amount of the transaction, whether originally made in U.S. dollars or converted from a foreign currency.
http://www.chase.com/ccp/jsps/cards/...ourcecode=64GZ
Cheers
Last edited by psychtobe; Jan 18, 2007 at 11:32 pm
#48
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Home
Programs: AA, Delta, UA & thanks to FTers for my PC Gold!
Posts: 7,674
Can we get back to TY Points, Please!
The responses seem to be off topic at this point.
From post #36 thru #47, foreign currency exchange rates were the focus. However, we already have an ongoing thread on that topic: Best card for foreign exchange?. IIRC, most people are not happy about Amex exchange rates. IMHO, this line of discussion belongs there.
Can we please move back to OP's original inquiry and discussion about Premier Pass Elite/TY points? I am considering getting a new CC since Chase is changing their terms to strickly no sign-up bonus miles. I haven't paid any attention to TY points until very recently. Reading this thread helped me quite a bit in terms of learning about TY points before it got "off-road."
Thank You, even though I can't give out TY points.
From post #36 thru #47, foreign currency exchange rates were the focus. However, we already have an ongoing thread on that topic: Best card for foreign exchange?. IIRC, most people are not happy about Amex exchange rates. IMHO, this line of discussion belongs there.
Can we please move back to OP's original inquiry and discussion about Premier Pass Elite/TY points? I am considering getting a new CC since Chase is changing their terms to strickly no sign-up bonus miles. I haven't paid any attention to TY points until very recently. Reading this thread helped me quite a bit in terms of learning about TY points before it got "off-road."
Thank You, even though I can't give out TY points.
#49
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Ivory Towers
Programs: DL Plat, HH Diamond, Diners Club, Citi Chairman, AMEX Plat, Merrill+, SPG Gold, Marriott Slvr
Posts: 328
The responses seem to be off topic at this point.
From post #36 thru #47, foreign currency exchange rates were the focus. However, we already have an ongoing thread on that topic: Best card for foreign exchange?. IIRC, most people are not happy about Amex exchange rates. IMHO, this line of discussion belongs there.
Can we please move back to OP's original inquiry and discussion about Premier Pass Elite/TY points? I am considering getting a new CC since Chase is changing their terms to strickly no sign-up bonus miles. I haven't paid any attention to TY points until very recently. Reading this thread helped me quite a bit in terms of learning about TY points before it got "off-road."
Thank You, even though I can't give out TY points.
From post #36 thru #47, foreign currency exchange rates were the focus. However, we already have an ongoing thread on that topic: Best card for foreign exchange?. IIRC, most people are not happy about Amex exchange rates. IMHO, this line of discussion belongs there.
Can we please move back to OP's original inquiry and discussion about Premier Pass Elite/TY points? I am considering getting a new CC since Chase is changing their terms to strickly no sign-up bonus miles. I haven't paid any attention to TY points until very recently. Reading this thread helped me quite a bit in terms of learning about TY points before it got "off-road."
Thank You, even though I can't give out TY points.

TY is a good program. The pros are:
1. Many cards can earn 2+ points per dollar spent. You can get a $100 gift card for 10,000 points. Thus, you are often getting 2% or more return for each dollar spent.
2. PP Elite earns 2 points per $ for regular spending and 4 points per $ for select spending, if you include the matching flight points. This is a pretty good return. If you keep flying you will always earn 2% plus!
3. You can have multiple cards and tailor your spending to the benefits of the card, e.g. Citi Professional earns 3pts for restaurants, car rentals, etc.
4. You can get decent coach tickets with your points. Those tickets earn miles on the airline.
The cons are:
1. You cannot convert points to miles in another program.
2. Merchandise rewards are limited and expensive.
I have MR, Diners, TY, and Merrill+ rewards. I personally like TY the best. However, I use my TY points for gift cards because I earn plenty of hotel and airline points elsewhere.
#50
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: JFK<->EWR
Programs: AA, Delta
Posts: 1
TY is a good program. The pros are:
3. You can have multiple cards and tailor your spending to the benefits of the card, e.g. Citi Professional earns 3pts for restaurants, car rentals, etc.
4. You can get decent coach tickets with your points. Those tickets earn miles on the airline.
The cons are:
1. You cannot convert points to miles in another program.
2. Merchandise rewards are limited and expensive.
3. You can have multiple cards and tailor your spending to the benefits of the card, e.g. Citi Professional earns 3pts for restaurants, car rentals, etc.
4. You can get decent coach tickets with your points. Those tickets earn miles on the airline.
The cons are:
1. You cannot convert points to miles in another program.
2. Merchandise rewards are limited and expensive.
Another HUGE con is, you can not collect regular points with non PremierPass cards towards the Premier Pass account. So, even if you spend around $1,000 - 2,000 a month you still will be waiting around 10 month in order to redeem those 15k flight points.
Pro is you don't have to have AAdvantage Citi Card/USAirways/Alaska etc... since this card posts all the flight points to those FF programs and to TY network.
Looks like this card is good only for those who fly often anough to collect 100 000 flight points in an year and do spend at least 3k to 5k a month.
Last edited by localbum; Dec 28, 2006 at 1:30 pm Reason: adding extra thought
#51
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Ivory Towers
Programs: DL Plat, HH Diamond, Diners Club, Citi Chairman, AMEX Plat, Merrill+, SPG Gold, Marriott Slvr
Posts: 328
Another HUGE con is, you can not collect regular points with non PremierPass cards towards the Premier Pass account. So, even if you spend around $1,000 - 2,000 a month you still will be waiting around 10 month in order to redeem those 15k flight points.
Pro is you don't have to have AAdvantage Citi Card/USAirways/Alaska etc... since this card posts all the flight points to those FF programs and to TY network.
Looks like this card is good only for those who fly often anough to collect 100 000 flight points in an year and do spend at least 3k to 5k a month.
Pro is you don't have to have AAdvantage Citi Card/USAirways/Alaska etc... since this card posts all the flight points to those FF programs and to TY network.
Looks like this card is good only for those who fly often anough to collect 100 000 flight points in an year and do spend at least 3k to 5k a month.
Hmmm.... Suppose you build up around 100,000 flight points on your PP Elite Card. The next $100,000 that you spend will earn 2 points per $. I am in that situation. It is not a bad scenario.
#53
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: DFW
Programs: United Gold, BA Plat, Starwood Plat, Hilton Silver
Posts: 238
I'd have to add a vote to the "deceptive" category, and I'm a lawyer. When I signed up for this card, I did know what I was getting into because I read everything closely, but the terms are certainly more hidden than most "hidden" terms in other cc offers. Just look at the ad link on top of this very page at this moment (not to mention all of the "funny" tv commercials, which never suggests that all points from these cards are unequal):
http://citi.bridgetrack.com/USC/05/P...C4BEFB01FFF88#
Anyway, this card has been worth it for me b/c of the bonus points, but I just don't think I'm going to keep it.
http://citi.bridgetrack.com/USC/05/P...C4BEFB01FFF88#
Anyway, this card has been worth it for me b/c of the bonus points, but I just don't think I'm going to keep it.
#54




Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: New York City, United States.
Posts: 2,737
yeah it ain't in the fine print.
But as a lawyer you should know that cc cos do much worse than fail to provide full disclosure on their rewards programs.
Check out the movie Bull worth.
sadly it is the banks and insurance companies that have legislators in their hip pocket.
Its only in Jimmy Stewart's naive imagination that they represent the . And even this misconception is corrected as soon as he shows up in DC
But as a lawyer you should know that cc cos do much worse than fail to provide full disclosure on their rewards programs.
Check out the movie Bull worth.
sadly it is the banks and insurance companies that have legislators in their hip pocket.
Its only in Jimmy Stewart's naive imagination that they represent the . And even this misconception is corrected as soon as he shows up in DC
Last edited by writetorich; Jan 18, 2007 at 9:26 pm
#55


Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: PDX
Programs: Atmos Gold, HH Diamond, IHG Diamond
Posts: 2,747
This is wrong. I see the reason for the confusion: I meant Capital One, not Chase. The original posts have been fixed. Sorry for the error!
#56
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: HY
Programs: AA-EXP (3.3MM), AAirpass, SQ-PPS Solitaire, DL-PM (.777MM), SPG-Plat, HH-D
Posts: 2,307
(ive done enough reading on this card my head is about to explode!)
#57




Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: ELP
Programs: AA EXP/LT PLAT, Marriott Titanium/LT PLAT
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are you just trying to get your post count up? you can pad your post count int he AMEX threads....
#58
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Can anyone confirm? What does it say on the e-receipt? Any UA flyers here?
#59


Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: PDX
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Does this only work with the tickets you book on thankyou network via expedia? How about the fixed option like for 25K points you can get a RT ticket in US. Do those earn FF miles and upgrades as well?
Can anyone confirm? What does it say on the e-receipt? Any UA flyers here?
Can anyone confirm? What does it say on the e-receipt? Any UA flyers here?
absolutely it works with the fixed-point option - that's the whole value of the program. Once the ticket is purchased, it looks to your airline for all practical purposes like you paid cash. You earn EQMs, EQSs, banked miles, upgrades, and whatever else UA throws your way.
#60
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 5
Hello. I am new to this forum and found it while researching the Citi PP Elite card. I have already applied for it and can't wait to start using it! I got lucky and found the link to the offer with the annual fee waived. That same link now redirects to a different URL, so the offer is no longer there.
While reading various threads about the PP Elite, I noticed several complaints about the Flight Points redemption rules. Please correct me if I am wrong, but isn't the PP card the only credit card to offer such points? Do any other CC companies give you flight points - redeemable on ANY airline - for the miles you fly, on top of the points earned for purchasing the ticket(s) with your CC?
If not, why would anyone complain about the PP's redemption rules?
For my spending and travel habits, the Citibank "ThankYou Network" was the most appealing. I currently have a CapitalOne MilesOne card for my business and a United Mileage Plus Visa for everything else, each earning separate points. Now, I can get a CitiBusiness PremierPass and a PremierPass Elite and combine points earned on the same ThankYou account. Who else offers this kind of flexibility? Aren't the Flight Points just icing on the cake?
P.S. No, I am not affiliated with Citibank. I just like what they offer
While reading various threads about the PP Elite, I noticed several complaints about the Flight Points redemption rules. Please correct me if I am wrong, but isn't the PP card the only credit card to offer such points? Do any other CC companies give you flight points - redeemable on ANY airline - for the miles you fly, on top of the points earned for purchasing the ticket(s) with your CC?
If not, why would anyone complain about the PP's redemption rules?
For my spending and travel habits, the Citibank "ThankYou Network" was the most appealing. I currently have a CapitalOne MilesOne card for my business and a United Mileage Plus Visa for everything else, each earning separate points. Now, I can get a CitiBusiness PremierPass and a PremierPass Elite and combine points earned on the same ThankYou account. Who else offers this kind of flexibility? Aren't the Flight Points just icing on the cake?
P.S. No, I am not affiliated with Citibank. I just like what they offer

