Premier Pass elite CC scam
 

I have been searching Premier pass information on the internet which led me to this forum. I am not sure if it is a scam or I had been lucky getting air miles transfer to my thankyou network.

Here is my situation.

I applied PP elite credit card last year for $75 fee and got 15000 bonus miles which was transferred to my Thankyou member account within 3 months after my first purchase, I then started buying airline tickets for me and my family and continued getting those flying mile transferred to thankyou member acc on 1mile flown:1 thankyou point ratio. I then redeemed those miles for 3 tickets and was happy. So far so good.
Since last couple of month some of my old airline tickets mile didn't get transferred to my thankyou member acc. I bought the tickets the same way as I did before and sent them the Itinerates and boarding stubs. After contacting them they told me they have received the paper work but they won't transfer the miles to my thankyou network for redemption, I have earned the miles and its in the pipeline and it shows on the monthly statement but in order to get those points I have to make the same amount of purchase on my credit card, which means if I fly 30,000 miles I will get those miles only if I spend $30,000. This got me very frustrated because I am not spending 30,000 any time soon.


I have no idea what to do; I didn't churn the card and paid another $75 fee a month ago. My 30,000 miles are stuck in the pipeline and I have been told I will receive it only if I make $30,000 purchases. What should I do? Please help. Is this happened to any one else?

Welcome to FT! You'll be able to seach in this forum and find that this is how the card is set up. It's a very beneficial rewards program that can get you multiple points per dollar spend. However, for each mile received for travel, you need a matching dollar spent for those to count as TY points that are redeemable.

You should have read the rules more carefully, as this is how the card was set up.

You can do one of two things:
1. Cancel the card and ask them for the $75 back, provided you spend that in the last 30 days.
2. Continue to use the card, knowing you will get 2 points per dollar spent.

Good flying!

Best Regards,
Jayzee9

Welcome to FT....

Sorry, but you are SOL .....

That is the way the card is setup and everyone on this forum has understood and accepted it....you can't get something for nothing....

But at least you got 3 tickets out of it without getting caught...at first the Premier Pass CC did not take into acct flight points vs. actual spending...they have fixed this bug...now only $1 spent = 1 flight point .....

I have approx 8000 flight points stuck in my business cc...

oh well....

Thanks a lot guys, I thought it was just me but if it's that's in their terms and condition then I will cancel it in a couple of days. I am going to give it a last try with the customer rep and see if we can work out some thing, if not then will say bye bye to the card.

I don't think there is anything to work out. Citi is under no obligation to "work it out" under the current T&C. If Traveler1404 visit this forum before applying for this card, he/she would have known. So the word "scam" in OP is just wrong. You can't blame citi because you don't read T&C.

its not a scam... thats how their system works, and to me that makes it worthless :D

plus, lack of international first class.

its clearly your fault for not understanding that, even though you could say they were somewhat misleading.

Let's be nice. The orignal poster is new to Flyer Talk.

Yes. The program works as follows:

a. 1 point per $ spent
b. 2 points per $ spent at grocery stores, etc.
c. Each point that is earned can be matched by a flight point.
d. If you keep flight points laying you effectively earn:

2 pt = 1 purchase pt + 1 flight pt per $ spent
4 pt = 1 purchase pt + 1 flight pt per $ spent at grocery stores, etc.

On average, this is comparable or better than all Citi Thankyou Cards except for Chairman Card. (For some people, other cards may be better.)

These points are great except that they cannot be used for upgrades. I primarily use the points for purchasing gift cards. This guarantees a 2-6% earning per $ spent on my Chairman Card. In your case it would be a 2-4% earning on your PP Elite. That is pretty good these days.

ThankYou points are useful for Domestic coach travel.

im sorry but as others have pointed out, you don't call things scams when YOU are the one in error. heck, you dont even call it a scam when there is simply a misunderstanding on anyone's part.

people, new and old, are throwing it around way too much on FT.

its supposed to mean behavior that is at least unethical, if not illegal.

actually they have first class..you have to call and look for the tickets you want and then they will give you the point redemption....

with the Chairman card, you also get 2 for 1 - got tickets to Jaimaca in Dec. in F for 900R/T each for me and my wife....in the 2 for 1 deal...

just be prepared to redeem a lot of point for Firt, but the point earning is so great, it really does not bother me....

I have been with TY network for exactly 2 yrs now and have earned 415,000pts....should clear 600,000 by years end...spedning is nowhere near that amt...maybe 60%

so you spent $107K per year for 2 years, and now are going to spend $87K in 2 months?

or are you counting flight points that you cant redeem yet?

also..

NH 120K EU-Asia F
lets say it costs $10K, that means 1 million TYN right?
500K flight points plus $500K spending matches = both are redeemable
starwood card earns at about 1.25 meaning $96K spending. (not counting starwood bonus)

5X spending required, plus flying 500K miles

Way less than 107k in actual spending...remember that Thank you merchants also offer extra points for shopping with them....actual spending for the yr 2005 which includes Chairman and Premier Pass which came to approx 85,300 and some change...also, with Premier Pass I did not earn the extra point as you would with Chairman...I have had the Chairman since Sept 2005....

I am counting some miles that I have not yet earned but have been booked....for this yr since I have yet to take the flight...

I am earning approx 4-5 pt per dollar spent...so a biz class ticket to Bombay is 165,000/4 = $41250 in actual spending for me...for others it might be a bit different.....and I get my pick of airline...which earns me FF miles in C class since they actually buy me a ticket...

I do not think that Starwood could beat this...

your calculations on Thank You Points could be totally off base. They don't publish rates for F international, so you need to call and ask about specific flights instead of assuming in order to bolster your position. I recall that another poster got 2 F tickets North America - India for approximately 160k TY Points each. Search this forum for more details.

Also, Thank You point-ticketed flights earn FF miles; earn EQMs; are eligible for upgrades; have no capacity controls; and have no blackout dates. This makes them potentially much more valuable than airline miles accrued by SPG Amex transfer.

At any rate, I agree that the word "scam" should be deleted from the very misleading title of this altogether unnecessary thread.

they were C tickets (business not first)

a chairman cardholder stated that first is only a custom award which is a 1 cent per point redemption IIRC

(there are business options ex-US, so i did not say it didnt offer that)

i dont recall people talking about earning bonuses before. did i miss that?

it has a thing similar to everyday spending on premier pass elite, youre saying chairman gets 3 or more points per dollar instead of 2 anaggie?

Sorry guys, if I have offended you by saying "IT’S A SCAM". If you read the original post it clearly stats that I am new to FT and that I am learning new tricks and trade. A simple explanation would have been enough.

Thanks to guys who answered my questions without being my dad. It's a mistake and I have learned a lesson.

I bought that credit card for free gas because I was bored one day. It offers a 60% return on your money in 2 months. Here's how it penciled out for me: No purchases necessary, for the $75 annual fee you get 15,000 Thank You Points = Two $50 (2 x 6000 TYP's) + Two $10 (2 x 1500 TYP's) Shell gas cards = $120, minus the $75 annual fee = $45 in free gas. I intend to close the account prior to renewal. Far from great, it's not bad, and it's just one of dozens of credit card accounts I play with.