DCC: Dynamic Currency Conversion (2017-2025)
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Just did another booking using tirpla and this time it gives the option to book in USD pre-paid or pay in yen at the hotel. $385 USD vs 53,900 JPY (which today is worth $365 USD). So $20 extra -- 5% (!). I am booking way in advance (months) so I guess using it could protect me from a further decline in the dollar (which seems likely to me given current economic policies), but jeez...
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Think of 5% as your forward premium
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Been seeing a lot of this terminal in the Okanagan, BC. Easy enough to opt out, but I'd be curious to know how they're calculating 4.99% because the markup has been closer to 7.9-8% over the XE rate and what has posted at Chase.
Below was an Android smartphone/Google Pay contactless payment; at the same place another FTer paid with Apple Pay/MC and was not offered DCC (and was processed in CAD)

Below was an Android smartphone/Google Pay contactless payment; at the same place another FTer paid with Apple Pay/MC and was not offered DCC (and was processed in CAD)

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Been seeing a lot of this terminal in the Okanagan, BC. Easy enough to opt out, but I'd be curious to know how they're calculating 4.99% because the markup has been closer to 7.9-8% over the XE rate and what has posted at Chase.
Below was an Android smartphone/Google Pay contactless payment; at the same place another FTer paid with Apple Pay/MC and was not offered DCC (and was processed in CAD)

Below was an Android smartphone/Google Pay contactless payment; at the same place another FTer paid with Apple Pay/MC and was not offered DCC (and was processed in CAD)

#1340



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Definitely ran into DCC in London this last visit more than I have the prior two. Both the hotel and the restaurant our first night had touch screen terminals that offered DCC. In fact, the latter had me insert after tapping, and I am guessing that is a reason why.
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This might be the first time I've seen DCC actively being advertised domestically. ATM at the new SAN T1 this morning:

Of course this was the one trip I decided to leave my Revolut card at home (and contactless didn't work, either). Maybe next time.

Of course this was the one trip I decided to leave my Revolut card at home (and contactless didn't work, either). Maybe next time.
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When you buy a UK ETA (required for entry, at least from the US), they ask you what country you are located in, then charge you in that currency plus a conversion fee. There is no option to pay in GBP. The only way I could see to avoid the surcharge was to claim to be in the UK, which would be a problem, since it would mean you're there illegally.
And as well all know here, you still have to use a no FTF card because the DCC does not replace a FTF fee as almost all of the US issuers with a FTF fee (3% or whatever) apply it to any transaction done overseas, regardless of the currency of the charge. I agree the amount is small, but that is the game of how these companies make their profits.
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#1347
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JAL had an MCC option, which was off by default, on their website. I was booking a ticket from the US, and the image is here.
There were a few currency selections available, but trying to select anything except USD brought up this message:
There were a few currency selections available, but trying to select anything except USD brought up this message:
The payment can only be made in the currency of the departing country or in Japanese yen when making payment with your JAL Card or a credit card issued in Japan.
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JAL had an MCC option, which was off by default, on their website. I was booking a ticket from the US, and the image is here.
There were a few currency selections available, but trying to select anything except USD brought up this message:
There were a few currency selections available, but trying to select anything except USD brought up this message:
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It's been talked about before in earlier posts, but MCC can be more insidious than DCC since the currency conversion happens before the transaction enters the payment network. Therefore, the network rules and consumer protections (to the extent acquirers abide by them) would not apply for MCC like they would for DCC.



Looks like I need to start bringing my Revolut card everywhere again regardless.