Dec 28, 2016, 7:23 pm
Last edit by: philemer
Personal Card
Click here to get the same offer (see below) with the annual fee waived the first year. First try entering code 999999 in the box at the top of the page. Apparently this offer is from an AA employee selling the card inflight, but it seems to be open to everyone. But publishing that employee's code online could get the employee in trouble. If 999999 doesn't work, use employee code 356467. Note: You will NOT get a $99 Companion Certificate as part of your bonus when the annual fee is waived.
Language from the web offer page: Anniversary Companion Certificate: Each anniversary year; earn a Companion Certificate good for 1 guest at $99 (plus taxes and fees) after spending $20,000 on purchases and your account remains open for 45 days after your anniversary date. There is NO LANGUAGE in this offer regarding a "complimentary" companion certificate.
AAdvantage Aviator Red World Elite Mastercard
1. 70K offer https://cards.barclaycardus.com/cred...0-8f2f74651285 DEAD
2. 60,000 bonus miles and $99 Companion Certificate after first purchase and paying the $99 annual fee
Offer landing page: https://cards.barclaycardus.com/card...astercard.html
The offer fine print:
The primary cardmember will earn sixty thousand (60,000) AAdvantage® bonus miles after a purchase is made on the card account within ninety (90) days of card account opening and the annual fee has been paid. Please allow 4-6 weeks for the AAdvantage®bonus miles to be deposited into your AAdvantage® account. Balance transfers and cash advances do not qualify as purchases. This offer may be canceled at any time without notice.
In addition to the sixty thousand (60,000) AAdvantage® bonus miles, the primary cardmember will earn one (1) domestic economy fare American Airlines introductory Companion Certificate redeemable for one (1) companion ticket at $99 (plus taxes and fees) after a purchase is made on the card account within ninety (90) days of card account opening and the annual fee has been paid. Please allow 8-10 weeks for delivery of the Companion Certificate after the qualifying purchase has posted to your card account and the annual fee has been paid. Balance transfers and cash advances do not qualify as purchases. This offer may be canceled at any time without notice.
This one-time offer is valid for eligible cardmembers. You may not be eligible for this offer if you currently have or previously had an account with us in this program.
There are data points indicating that this is not always enforced: See posts 439, 496, 514, 516, 517, 538, 835
As of Sept. 2017, most people applying for an Aviator card are being denied, "instantly" by a computer, if they already have an Aviator card open. As of Dec. 2017, most people applying for an Aviator card are being denied, even by recon, if they already have an Aviator card open. It had been that current and previous Aviator Red (US Airways Converted) cardmembers were not subject to the 24-month restriction. This seems to have changed as far as current card holders applying for a second, concurrent card. (See posts #185, 193, 194, 195, 198, 199, 211, 220, 247, 290, 527, 529, 532)
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Business Card, see this thread:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cred...-card-50k.html
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RECON. PHONE NUMBERS
Reported phone numbers to call for reconsideration include 866-371-4787, (post 303), 866-205-5973 (post 659), 866-408-4064 (multiple posts), 866-408-4065 (from post #2 in recon thread), 866-369-1283 (from post #7 in recon thread). Other posters have called the general customer service number and asked to be transferred to a credit analyst.
Sign Up Bonus Info:
It appears that if your SUB includes the $95 AF (annual fee), Barclays doesn't post the AF until the 2nd statement. Thus, it will be a min. of 2 statements before you see your SUB points. This is only if the SUB requires the AF (as opposed to some SUBs that just have the $x,xxx in purchases with no AF).
There have been at least two cases in July 2023 where Barclays posted the AF prior to the first statement. In both of those cases, the cardholder paid the AF and other balance prior to the closing date. The SUB was issued as of the first statement for one these accounts. It may be the second one was too close to the closing date.
Posting of points from Barclays SUB to AA seem to take 3-7 days after the SUB posts on the Barclays Statement.
Language from the web offer page: Anniversary Companion Certificate: Each anniversary year; earn a Companion Certificate good for 1 guest at $99 (plus taxes and fees) after spending $20,000 on purchases and your account remains open for 45 days after your anniversary date. There is NO LANGUAGE in this offer regarding a "complimentary" companion certificate.
AAdvantage Aviator Red World Elite Mastercard
2. 60,000 bonus miles and $99 Companion Certificate after first purchase and paying the $99 annual fee
Offer landing page: https://cards.barclaycardus.com/card...astercard.html
The offer fine print:
The primary cardmember will earn sixty thousand (60,000) AAdvantage® bonus miles after a purchase is made on the card account within ninety (90) days of card account opening and the annual fee has been paid. Please allow 4-6 weeks for the AAdvantage®bonus miles to be deposited into your AAdvantage® account. Balance transfers and cash advances do not qualify as purchases. This offer may be canceled at any time without notice.
In addition to the sixty thousand (60,000) AAdvantage® bonus miles, the primary cardmember will earn one (1) domestic economy fare American Airlines introductory Companion Certificate redeemable for one (1) companion ticket at $99 (plus taxes and fees) after a purchase is made on the card account within ninety (90) days of card account opening and the annual fee has been paid. Please allow 8-10 weeks for delivery of the Companion Certificate after the qualifying purchase has posted to your card account and the annual fee has been paid. Balance transfers and cash advances do not qualify as purchases. This offer may be canceled at any time without notice.
This one-time offer is valid for eligible cardmembers. You may not be eligible for this offer if you currently have or previously had an account with us in this program.
There are data points indicating that this is not always enforced: See posts 439, 496, 514, 516, 517, 538, 835
As of Sept. 2017, most people applying for an Aviator card are being denied, "instantly" by a computer, if they already have an Aviator card open. As of Dec. 2017, most people applying for an Aviator card are being denied, even by recon, if they already have an Aviator card open. It had been that current and previous Aviator Red (US Airways Converted) cardmembers were not subject to the 24-month restriction. This seems to have changed as far as current card holders applying for a second, concurrent card. (See posts #185, 193, 194, 195, 198, 199, 211, 220, 247, 290, 527, 529, 532)
__________________________________________________ ___________________________
Business Card, see this thread:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cred...-card-50k.html
__________________________________________________ ___________________________
RECON. PHONE NUMBERS
Reported phone numbers to call for reconsideration include 866-371-4787, (post 303), 866-205-5973 (post 659), 866-408-4064 (multiple posts), 866-408-4065 (from post #2 in recon thread), 866-369-1283 (from post #7 in recon thread). Other posters have called the general customer service number and asked to be transferred to a credit analyst.
Sign Up Bonus Info:
It appears that if your SUB includes the $95 AF (annual fee), Barclays doesn't post the AF until the 2nd statement. Thus, it will be a min. of 2 statements before you see your SUB points. This is only if the SUB requires the AF (as opposed to some SUBs that just have the $x,xxx in purchases with no AF).
There have been at least two cases in July 2023 where Barclays posted the AF prior to the first statement. In both of those cases, the cardholder paid the AF and other balance prior to the closing date. The SUB was issued as of the first statement for one these accounts. It may be the second one was too close to the closing date.
Posting of points from Barclays SUB to AA seem to take 3-7 days after the SUB posts on the Barclays Statement.
Barclays AAdvantage Aviator PERSONAL Card (2016 - 2023)
Dec 26, 2017, 4:27 pm
#826
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: JFK
Posts: 382
Ah there it is, thanks. Whew.
Dec 27, 2017, 7:45 pm
#828
Join Date: Sep 2017
Programs: Delta Platinum Medallion, Hyatt Explorist, Wyndham Diamond
Posts: 313
Are people still getting approved, even when they already have one open, by calling Recon? I just tried applying, got the instant denial, called the Recon #, and was told I can't have more than 1 open. But I've read reports here of that being waived with manual Recon. HUCA, or a lost cause? Thanks!
My current Aviator Red was opened Nov/Dec last year. I applied yesterday and got the 7-10 day message. Called them not too soon after and denied due to already having one open. HUCA 2x more and same reason was given.
Dec 27, 2017, 8:44 pm
#829
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: New York
Programs: Navy A-4 Skyhawk, B727 FE/FO, S80 FO, B757/767 FO, B737 CA
Posts: 1,342
Yea, having followed this thread since this card was introduced, it seems that in most cases folks are not getting the card again if they have one open. I said most because I can't remember if there has been a couple of exceptions. It actually seems that the data points have been all over the place. I think this card is very YMMV.
Dec 27, 2017, 10:07 pm
#830
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 433
Yea, having followed this thread since this card was introduced, it seems that in most cases folks are not getting the card again if they have one open. I said most because I can't remember if there has been a couple of exceptions. It actually seems that the data points have been all over the place. I think this card is very YMMV.
Dec 28, 2017, 12:50 pm
#832
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: home = LAX
Posts: 25,933
Yea, having followed this thread since this card was introduced, it seems that in most cases folks are not getting the card again if they have one open. I said most because I can't remember if there has been a couple of exceptions. It actually seems that the data points have been all over the place. I think this card is very YMMV.
Dec 28, 2017, 4:08 pm
#834
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: SEA
Programs: AA EXP; Marriott Titanium
Posts: 51
On an AA flight last night, while they were pushing in-flight applications for the card, the FA specifically said that if you've already participated in one of their recent promotions, you're still eligible for the current 60k promotion, but it seems that's not consistent with what people are reporting here on the thread. FWIW the pamphlet they gave out also has the "first-time cardmembers with new accounts only" language in it.
Dec 29, 2017, 9:02 am
#835
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 1,784
On an AA flight last night, while they were pushing in-flight applications for the card, the FA specifically said that if you've already participated in one of their recent promotions, you're still eligible for the current 60k promotion, but it seems that's not consistent with what people are reporting here on the thread. FWIW the pamphlet they gave out also has the "first-time cardmembers with new accounts only" language in it.
Dec 29, 2017, 1:41 pm
#836
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Omaha
Programs: AA Life Plat 4mm, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 1,460
My AF is due tomorrow on Red - received an email offering 16,500 if I spend $500 a month for next 3 months; I called to get the AF droppped and rep said ok.
My wife also has a Red, AF due in June but rep said she is not eligible.
Jan 3, 2018, 5:29 pm
#837
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,762
After getting an instant approval on the Ink Preferred card in my husband's name, we decided to try his luck with the Aviator.
Unfortunately he received another instant denial just like the first try in Sept when he still had an existing Aviator.
We dont think the inquiries from his new AMEX DL biz card applied in 1st week of Dec (instant approval from a targeted offer), as well as the Ink Preferred tonight have anything to do with the denial - they should both be from Experian while Barclays always pulls from TU. Doubt the inquiries would matter.
Therefore we feel the possible reason(s) would most likely be:
1) After being denied for a second Aviator with an existing Aviator from a US Airway conversion, he canceled the existing Aviator in late November after 10K anniversary bonus posted at beginning of Nov. The time between cancellation and application is 42 days. Apparently the time lapse is still too short for his account, unlike another poster who reported success only 35 days after canceling the existing Aviator..
2) He has applied and is instantly approved the A+ on Sept 19. Not quite 4 months yet from previous Barclay card application. Should probably wait till full 4 months passed before trying again.
Will report back what the denial letter says once it arrives. Should be able to tell whether it is due to 1) (due to previous Aviator) or due to 2).(has extended maximum credit).
Question to RobertHanson - Did your canceled Aviator still show online or it was dropped off when you applied and received instant approval?
Unfortunately he received another instant denial just like the first try in Sept when he still had an existing Aviator.
We dont think the inquiries from his new AMEX DL biz card applied in 1st week of Dec (instant approval from a targeted offer), as well as the Ink Preferred tonight have anything to do with the denial - they should both be from Experian while Barclays always pulls from TU. Doubt the inquiries would matter.
Therefore we feel the possible reason(s) would most likely be:
1) After being denied for a second Aviator with an existing Aviator from a US Airway conversion, he canceled the existing Aviator in late November after 10K anniversary bonus posted at beginning of Nov. The time between cancellation and application is 42 days. Apparently the time lapse is still too short for his account, unlike another poster who reported success only 35 days after canceling the existing Aviator..
2) He has applied and is instantly approved the A+ on Sept 19. Not quite 4 months yet from previous Barclay card application. Should probably wait till full 4 months passed before trying again.
Will report back what the denial letter says once it arrives. Should be able to tell whether it is due to 1) (due to previous Aviator) or due to 2).(has extended maximum credit).
Question to RobertHanson - Did your canceled Aviator still show online or it was dropped off when you applied and received instant approval?
Last edited by Happy; Jan 3, 2018 at 5:39 pm
Jan 3, 2018, 7:03 pm
#838
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: New York
Programs: Navy A-4 Skyhawk, B727 FE/FO, S80 FO, B757/767 FO, B737 CA
Posts: 1,342
I know you are asking RH but since I'n the one who had the 35 days in between cancellation and successful app, I thought I'd answer this question as well. My old card still shows on my login page, though it is listed as cancelled and says functionality is limited.