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Old Jun 1, 2015 | 7:18 am
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Unauthorized Credit Inquiries - Hard Pulls

Maybe I can get guidance.

I am raging mad!

Barclay's Arrival just approved me for a credit increase of $4K. (without me asking for it)
But they pulled my credit! Not a soft credit, a hard credit.
Mad, Mad, Mad.
Not only will if affect my churn, but I am trying to buy a house.

A couple of weeks ago Paypal also just pulled my wife's credit.

Is there a recourse to reverse it?

Thanks, and sorry for the rant!

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Old Jun 1, 2015 | 7:28 am
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Sorry I can't answer your question and do appreciate your frustration but it does make me think about a tongue-in-cheek reverse rant from a credit card company:

"This guy keeps churning our cards, it's so unfair and not what we intended. Is there anything we can do about it? Sorry for the rant."
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Old Jun 1, 2015 | 7:46 am
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Did you ask for the CL increase? Does your wife use Paypal to buy things?
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Old Jun 1, 2015 | 8:15 am
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If you asked for a credit line increase it is standard that they hard pull. I'd expect it to take an act of Congress to increase your credit line without a hard pull. MS'ing is about the last thing you need to be doing when buying a house.

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Old Jun 1, 2015 | 10:16 am
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Originally Posted by ORD-TGU
Maybe I can get guidance.

I am raging mad!

Barclay's Arrival just approved me for a credit increase of $4K.
But they pulled my credit! Not a soft credit, a hard credit.
Mad, Mad, Mad.
Not only will if affect my churn, but I am trying to buy a house.

A couple of weeks ago Paypal also just pulled my wife's credit.

Is there a recourse to reverse it?

Thanks, and sorry for the rant!
This shouldn't be surprising. Here's a blog post that mentions most issuers:

Which Credit Card Companies Do A Hard Pull For A Credit Limit Increase?
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Old Jun 1, 2015 | 10:37 am
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get a discover if you want easy CLIs... some people get +1k CLI every 17 days (YMMV of course). they do soft pull, and ask if you want HP if soft pull fails

almost no brainer considering the 2% cashback and 5% rotating
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Old Jun 1, 2015 | 10:59 am
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OP sought a CL increase and his credit was pulled. Not only does this affect credit score, but the mere fact of increased debt may cause problems for OP if he is seeking a mortgage.

Maybe the first thing a decent mortgage broker tells an applicant is not to take on new debt from the time the application is made and closing (absent a genuine need and with a clearcut written explanation, e.g., "we needed new furniture for the house and took on an extra $5K in debt. Attached is the receipt from the furniture store."

OP should be mad, mad, mad. At himself.
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Old Jun 1, 2015 | 12:54 pm
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Did you request a CLI, or did the bank just grant it out of the blue. If you requested it it is valid as you did request additional credit, but you should have been informed that it would happen. If it was an online request there would have been a box to check to approve this.

If you did not request the CLI, are you sure it is really a hard pull? How are you checking? I have had a couple things pop up in notifications on Credit Karma or Sesame, but then they are gone when I look at the actual report. I think they either get confused about a soft pull and report it as hard, or refresh something old.
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Old Jun 1, 2015 | 1:08 pm
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Paypal has been doing a hard pull on people's credit (as they did mine) even though not applying for a credit card! Just to use their service to pay for online purchases via a credit card registered to them. I called to complain and they had me fax in all kinds of things! I let them know if their pull was not removed from my report I would file a complaint with the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau in Washington (Thank you Elizabeth Warren!)
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Old Jun 1, 2015 | 1:30 pm
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This is why I always have all of my credit bureau's frozen and only temporarily unlock them when doing an app.
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PayPal credit is also known to do hard pulls. They are, after all, offering you credit.
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Old Jun 1, 2015 | 7:20 pm
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I don't think OP requested the CLI, for all you saying that he should have known. I've had my CL increased randomly too but didn't ask for it and didn't check if they did a hard pull.
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Old Jun 1, 2015 | 7:29 pm
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Depends on the issuer.

The Barclays CLI webpage clearly states they'll pull your credit AFAIK.
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Old Jun 1, 2015 | 9:09 pm
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Originally Posted by maverick17
I don't think OP requested the CLI, for all you saying that he should have known. I've had my CL increased randomly too but didn't ask for it and didn't check if they did a hard pull.
it depends on the issuer

Barclay's Arrival just approved me for a credit increase of $4K.
But they pulled my credit!
sounds like OP requested CLI (otherwise he would say "Barclays just gave me CLI out of the blue)... if OP didn't request CLI, then hard pull is unauthorized

it's well know that BoA, Chase and Barclays does hard pull for any sort of customer-requested CLI.

by definition, credit reports/scores reflect the credit worthiness and risk of a person.

If a person wants to get a higher credit limit, he wants to be re-evaluated on his credit worthiness... Does his potential risk change because of this behavior? (yes = hard pull. some companies think that soft pull is enough)
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Old Jun 1, 2015 | 9:25 pm
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Originally Posted by maverick17
I don't think OP requested the CLI, for all you saying that he should have known. I've had my CL increased randomly too but didn't ask for it and didn't check if they did a hard pull.
I disagree. OP didn't write that Barclays offered a CLI and didn't write that it was unsolicited, instead, OP wrote:

Originally Posted by ORD-TGU
Barclay's Arrival just approved me for a credit increase of $4K.
But they pulled my credit! Not a soft credit, a hard credit.
Mad, Mad, Mad.
One wouldn't typically write "approved" if it was unsolicited. One would usually write "offered" or something similar.

Only OP knows and could answer though.
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