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List of DCC Prevalence by Country
Is there a comprehensive list of DCC prevalence by country somewhere? I'm picturing something that has the country, how commonly DCC is encountered there and particular issues to watch out for. I've seen lists of some top offenders, but not a comprehensive list.
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Originally Posted by greeneb
(Post 25063455)
Is there a comprehensive list of DCC prevalence by country somewhere? I'm picturing something that has the country, how commonly DCC is encountered there and particular issues to watch out for. I've seen lists of some top offenders, but not a comprehensive list.
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Originally Posted by greeneb
(Post 25063455)
Is there a comprehensive list of DCC prevalence by country somewhere? I'm picturing something that has the country, how commonly DCC is encountered there and particular issues to watch out for. I've seen lists of some top offenders, but not a comprehensive list.
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Originally Posted by percysmith
(Post 25063562)
Not comprehensive, but the wiki on the top of this thread has pretty detailed DCC descriptions by country.
I suppose I can update the wiki with such info myself, after another 88 posts.... |
Originally Posted by greeneb
(Post 25066020)
Do you mean the list labeled "Disabling DCC in..."? I was thinking a more comprehensive list would be helpful as there is evidently wide ranging variation. I'm in Eastern Europe and DCC is pushed heavily in Poland, present but easily avoided in Ukraine and not encountered in Belarus or Lithuania (in my limited experience).
I suppose I can update the wiki with such info myself, after another 88 posts.... |
Originally Posted by jamar
(Post 22088023)
In which case that's even worse than HSBC.
Speaking of which now that I'm in Shanghai again I encountered one of their terminals again in the downtown Ikea. Same as last time, push "cancel" at the "ENQUIRY" screen and it will show "transaction cancelled" for a moment before proceeding to do a DCC-free transaction, but unlike at that one restaurant the terminals at IKEA allow this opt-out for plain magstripe cards too. But has anyone has any more recent experience? Moondog was DCCed last night by DCC terminal in Shanghai, and it got a bit socially awkward. I'm not banning PRC on spec but I really have been doing China much much less in favour of Thailand and (more recently) Japan, where I haven't gotten DCCed even tho I communicate with sign language half the time. The heat, exchange rate, lack of promo deals and Air Flow Control doesn't help. Still like to keep an eye on things in SH in preparation of if (when) it's cool enough and good enough to return to SH for weekend. |
Originally Posted by percysmith
(Post 25071978)
Sorry to dig up an old post, and from a predecessor thread at that.
But has anyone has any more recent experience? Moondog was DCCed last night by DCC terminal in Shanghai, and it got a bit socially awkward. I'm not banning PRC on spec but I really have been doing China much much less in favour of Thailand and (more recently) Japan, where I haven't gotten DCCed even tho I communicate with sign language half the time. The heat, exchange rate, lack of promo deals and Air Flow Control doesn't help. Still like to keep an eye on things in SH in preparation of if (when) it's cool enough and good enough to return to SH for weekend. After the girl dumped me, I pulled out 10,000 from the ATM. I will not repeat my mistake; let's solve HSBC in China! |
Originally Posted by moondog
(Post 25072011)
The girl walked out on me for being mean to the waitress, and fighting over $5; the system makes guys like us look like losers.
After the girl dumped me, I pulled out 10,000 from the ATM. I will not repeat my mistake; let's solve HSBC in China! That being said, I have strategically used American Express and/or cash to avoid a DCC fight at the dinner table. |
That's what I've been doing in DCC "active" areas/countries: Amex or Cash.
Till Visa and MC fix their problem, they're not getting their share of the cake, as easy as that. |
Originally Posted by percysmith
(Post 25071978)
Japan, where I haven't gotten DCCed
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Originally Posted by IMH
(Post 25077528)
We recently spent three weeks in Japan, including places that attract a lot of tourists, and only saw DCC twice (in two hotels). In both cases there were notices on display that 'explained' DCC without mentioning that it costs the customer money, but in neither hotel did the staff try to push it or trick us.
I found Japan to be a very good place for tourists, including how well it controls DCC. |
Bank of China publishes non-compliant instructions to merchants:
http://www.hongkongcard.com/forum/fo...p?id=11430&p=6
http://wenku.baidu.com/view/5c97658a...87732132e.html DCC操作流程: 1,对于外币Visa/Mastercard, 在做授权完成,直接消费的时候,直接使用POS机/BMP系统进行刷卡或者插卡(芯片卡)交易; 2,默认或者点击Yes, 确认使用DCC功能; 3,打出签购单,让持卡人核对签名。 4,如果持卡人对DCC功能有疑问,给以出示中国银行关于此服务说明。(前看附件一) 5,如果客人拒绝使用DCC服务,收银员可以直接在POS机/BMP系统里对该笔授权完成进行取消,然后用同一个预授权号做一笔同样金额的非DCC授权完成,让持卡人核 对签字。 6,如果是持卡人回国之后,对DCC服务有疑问或者要求更改服务的。收银员可以通知中国银行相应负责人,通 过银行后台系统,将之前的DCC交易转非DCC交易即可。 2. If no selection is made or yes is selected, DCC functionality is confirmed. 3. Print merchant slip and match cardholder signature. 4. If cardholder has questions about DCC, please show Bank of China explanation on these services (see attachment 1). 5. If cardholder refuses DCC services, merchant cashier can directly cancel the transaction in the POS/BMP. Then run the same transaction again using the same authorisation code and non-DCC for same [RMB] amount, and verify cardholder signature. 6. If cardholder has complaint after returning to their home country, merchant cashier can notify Bank of China related contact and change the DCC transaction into non-DCC. 中国银行的建议:收银员直接使用DCC功能,不用每笔都去讯问持卡人。目前90%的国外持卡人都会接受并选 择此服务。如有个例,再根据相应的操作进行应对即可 The bolded parts are non-compliant with VIOR and the MC Chargeback Guide. I'll write to both Visa Asia-Pacific and Mastercard International here in HK asking for them to verify a.) whether these are genuine instructions issued by Bank of China and b.) if genuine Visa Asia-Pacific or Mastercard International should ask BoC to withdraw these instructions immediately. Not optimistic they will do it. Any other ideas? Also: 对商户优点:对商户而言,DCC服务提供了一种更准确的汇率标价,向国际客户群提供了增值服务的同时,保留 了一贯的结算方式,即以本地货币(人民币)进行清算。同时,DCC功能可以节省商家的刷卡手续费,是非DC C交易的5折左右的优惠。 ..... But not actionable. |
Originally Posted by percysmith
(Post 25089923)
http://www.hongkongcard.com/forum/fo...p?id=11430&p=6
http://wenku.baidu.com/view/5c97658a...87732132e.html But not actionable. |
It should default to NO unless one's home currency is specifically selected!
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