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Originally Posted by HGHUA
(Post 24439448)
I've been using my Apple Pay here in Hk for almost a week now and I haven't had any dcc requests while using it. Does NFC payment help prevent DCC?
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Originally Posted by percysmith
(Post 24465373)
The bxstardly thing about this express checkout thing is there is no obvious written documentation you *did not consent* - unlike a merchant slip where you ticked and maybe have a carbon merchant copy/taken a snapshot of the thermal merchant copy. ... As Majuki said it's probably better to insist on card charge on checkout every time. Use the excuse we used in the BoC Shenzhen Futian case - "we are participating in a card promo which requires us to sign a slip". In this hotel case, I am not sure I can give the hotel the benefit of the doubt. |
Originally Posted by newbie_flyer
(Post 24376692)
I noticed AirBnb charges 3% DCC by default for foreign stays, and of course wanted to avoid it. Found this thread: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/2203145
So tried it out and can report it worked with an Arrival+. YMMV due to the billing address matching to the country of currency. Booked an apartment in France for €103.00. No mention of conversion or DCC on the booking screen. First I saw any conversion was the email confirmation which was in GBP. I even have screenshots of all the forms filled in, right up to the last screen which shows the amount in EUR. It appears if you use a coupon code, the currency conversion section doesn't appear on the website. About 3% worse than MasterCard's rate. I'm not going to dispute this with my card issuer until after the stay has completed as I don't want the booking to be cancelled. AirBnb offered a £10 voucher. But this can't be used with their referral scheme, so is unlikely I'll actually use it. And it seems unlikely I will need to book an apartment anytime soon. |
Currently in Germany. I get a chuckle every time an Euronet ATM offers me a USD converted amount. Today, they offer an effective rate of 1.235 USD per EUR. Declined it and Capital One 360 charged me a rate of $1.087175 USD per EUR. Wow! Euronet is effectively charging a 13% transaction fee if you accept their offer.
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Originally Posted by seawolf
(Post 24471653)
Currently in Germany. I get a chuckle every time an Euronet ATM offers me a USD converted amount. Today, they offer an effective rate of 1.235 USD per EUR. Declined it and Capital One 360 charged me a rate of $1.087175 USD per EUR. Wow! Euronet is effectively charging a 13% transaction fee if you accept their offer.
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Originally Posted by JEFFJAGUAR
(Post 24473427)
Yup that's more or less today's interbank rate...the amount on the ATM is a month out of date (just shows how far the euro has fallen or the USD has strengthened). But here's the bigger question (out of topic to a degree). Can parity between the euro and USD be far away?
Quite depending on the ECB actions and what Germans&French decide. It might happen that next Christmas shopping would be cheaper to be made in Europe than in the US. |
Originally Posted by Fims
(Post 24474889)
Well, analysts say that by the end of current year it's probably around 1 USD = 2 EUR,
Quotes please? Which analysts?
Originally Posted by Fims
(Post 24474889)
thus the 1=1 should happen very soon and then slipping even furhter.
Quite depending on the ECB actions and what Germans&French decide. It might happen that next Christmas shopping would be cheaper to be made in Europe than in the US. |
Transaction posted:
http://i.imgur.com/x4nw0DD.png Looks like PayPal used the correct currency after all, but according to MC's currency tool: March 5th: 1 GBP = 1.526601 USD March 6th: 1 GBP = 1.523299 USD March 9th: 1 GBP = 1.511999 USD DC's currency rate = 1.523571 USD I'm guessing they used the 6th's rate + a markup. Not sure if an extra $0.000572 is worth complaining about since PayPal wanted to charge me $1.562548 per GBP. |
Originally Posted by tmiw
(Post 24484623)
Transaction posted:
March 5th: 1 GBP = 1.526601 USD March 6th: 1 GBP = 1.523299 USD March 9th: 1 GBP = 1.511999 USD DC's currency rate = 1.523571 USD I'm guessing they used the 6th's rate + a markup. Not sure if an extra $0.000572 is worth complaining about since PayPal wanted to charge me $1.562548 per GBP. Back in January, I made three ATM withdrawals in Morocco on my GBP card within three hours using the same ATM. They all posted on the same date with rates of 0.0712, 0.0704 and 0.0701 respectively. |
I've turned off the DCC function in paypal, took a while to find it hehe.
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My authorized user got DCCed at She & He Hotel in Guangzhou, China (he didn't notice as it was his first time). The DCC rip off rate was 1 USD : 6.02 CNY when the mastercard published rate was 1 USD : 6.2585 CNY on that day. Thanks for this thread-- I lectured him on what to do if it happens again in the future.
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This may be a little OT, but I have a question about how much card associations collect Foreign Transaction Fee.
Up to this point, my understanding has been that of a Washington Post's article in July 2005: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2900927_2.html This past April, Visa began adding a 1 percent fee onto any foreign transaction, whether dynamically converted to dollars or charged in local currency. But then in June, it suddenly rescinded the move, and went back to the previous policy of charging a 1 percent fee only on transactions made in foreign currency. In a statement, Visa said it made the change to "address issues raised by cardholders, merchants, and member financial institutions." In other words, almost everybody was upset. The company is "now reviewing the fee structure related to single-currency cross-border transactions," according to Rhonda Bentz, Visa's vice president of public affairs. MasterCard currently charges 1 percent on foreign currency transactions only, but has announced that, in October, it will switch to charging 0.8 percent for all foreign transactions, with an additional 0.2 percent fee for transactions made in foreign currency. Recently we got the following claims for Visa: Bank of East Asia http://www.hongkongcard.com/webedito...2002_25906.jpg "Effective from 30th June, 2015 0.8% per transaction for Hong Kong dollar transactions made outside of Hong Kong or with any merchant not registered in Hong Kong (e.g. internet transaction). This fee is charged by Visa/Mastercard" Bank of China (Hong Kong) http://www.boci.com.hk/pdf/eng/spec/...201501_eng.pdf "All VISA card transaction in Hong Kong Dollars incurred outside Hong Kong will be imposed a reimbursement charge of 0.8% on the transaction amount (the charge is levied by VISA) which will be debited to the card account." Fubon Bank (Hong Kong) http://www.fubonbank.com.hk/web/doc/...ce150305_e.pdf "Surcharge on Cross Border Transactions in Hong Kong Dollars - including transactions made outside Hong Kong or with any merchant not registered in Hong Kong (e.g. internet transaction) A 1% mark-up on the converted transaction amount in Hong Kong Dollars (inclusive of the 0.8%/1% surcharge charged by VISA/MasterCard respectively" I'm curious - does Visa really charge 0.8%? Or is Bank of East Asia/Bank of China/Fubon making this up just because they can pass Mastercard's fee for Visa's. Also in Fubon's case has Mastercard increased its fee to 1%? |
I have a UNFCU chip and pin credit card. It is a Visa card. The card benefits claim it does not add any additional FTF over what Visa charges. It thus charges 1% FTF for foreign non USD transactions and 0.8% FTF for foreign USD transactions - e.g., a USD charge in Panama, where USD is used alongside Balboa currency.
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A variation that I've not seen reported before:
My online statement (for a Visa card issued in the US) shows an entry for a UK transaction from last weekend. Alarm bells went off as soon as I saw the merchant name showing as "BLAH BLAH HOTEL DCC", but when I checked the amounts it became clear that the exchange rate applied was in fact the standard Visa rate for the day the transaction was processed. So I wasn't ripped off on this occasion. I've no idea how widespread this is -- it's the first time I've encountered it (or heard of it). |
Originally Posted by lcpteck
(Post 24518554)
I've turned off the DCC function in paypal, took a while to find it hehe.
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