USA Merchants Reach Credit Card Surcharge Rights Agreement [Effective 1.27.2013]
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Can merchants charge more for credit card purchases?
Recently noticed that the Tom Thumb close to me charges 10 cents/gallon when using a credit card. I used to think that merchants could not do that. True?
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They probably don't charge you more but give a cash discount.
However, they are allowed to pass on a percentage of the cost of the transaction and have been for a while, most retailers don't however.
http://www.creditcards.com/credit-ca...lowed-1281.php
However, they are allowed to pass on a percentage of the cost of the transaction and have been for a while, most retailers don't however.
http://www.creditcards.com/credit-ca...lowed-1281.php
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Usually it's mom-and-pop shops adding a surcharge under a certain amount. My dry cleaner flat out refuses any cc transactions
under $10, period.
under $10, period.
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A bunch of Gas Stations around here charge ~$1.00 more per gallon for credit card(I'm not kidding). But if you know to avoid those places you're good.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1449182.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1449182.html
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In New York State, a Credit Card surcharge is illegal, yet a "cash discount" is legal. It's all how you word it.
http://blog.nfib.com/2014/03/21/new-...ions-in-limbo/
http://blog.nfib.com/2014/03/21/new-...ions-in-limbo/
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Visa, MasterCard $7.25 billion settlement with retailers is thrown out
Reuters:
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-vi...-idUSKCN0ZG21E
NY Times:
http://nyti.ms/297FhpH
Alison Frankel explains:
http://blogs.reuters.com/alison-fran...rd-settlement/
The 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in New York said the accord was unfair to retailers that stood to receive no payments and, in the court's view, little or no benefit at all. It also decertified the case as a class action.
NY Times:
Under the deal, merchants would give up their rights to sue in the future, regardless of whether they received a piece of the money. Merchants would also be allowed to charge higher prices when consumers paid with credit cards, which are typically more expensive for them to process than debit cards.
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“This ‘settlement’ was never a settlement on behalf of the retail industry but rather a back-room deal that failed to represent the interests of retailers,” said Mallory Duncan, the senior vice president and general counsel for the retail group, which joined in the appeal of the 2012 settlement.
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In an interview, Mr. Duncan said that individual merchants would ultimately end up with an insignificant amount of money from the deal. The ban on surcharging customers for credit card payments had not really been lifted for the industry either, he said. Instead, the card networks just “rewrote the rules.”
“Ninety percent of merchants still can’t surcharge, even if they wanted to,” he said.
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“This ‘settlement’ was never a settlement on behalf of the retail industry but rather a back-room deal that failed to represent the interests of retailers,” said Mallory Duncan, the senior vice president and general counsel for the retail group, which joined in the appeal of the 2012 settlement.
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In an interview, Mr. Duncan said that individual merchants would ultimately end up with an insignificant amount of money from the deal. The ban on surcharging customers for credit card payments had not really been lifted for the industry either, he said. Instead, the card networks just “rewrote the rules.”
“Ninety percent of merchants still can’t surcharge, even if they wanted to,” he said.
Alison Frankel explains:
The rule changes MasterCard and Visa agreed to make would offer no relief at all to large swaths of the class, such as merchants that also accept American Express and those in states that do not allow fee surcharges.
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How does a handful of states with "no surcharging" rules equal 90% of merchants being unable to do so? I get the feeling that retailers want to be able to impose a flat 5+% fee for credit cards regardless of whether it's a basic card or Visa Signature/World/World Elite so that people don't find out how much they actually pay to accept them.
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Before the rule cabcharged charged 10% on all credit cards https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabcha...0.25_surcharge
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Australia had to set additional rules to stop that http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2016-0...harges/7449616
Before the rule cabcharged charged 10% on all credit cards https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabcha...0.25_surcharge
Before the rule cabcharged charged 10% on all credit cards https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabcha...0.25_surcharge
Also, the originally agreed changes to the rules are similar to what Australia had, where they're only allowed to surcharge up to 4% or the cost to run the card, whichever is lower. I feel like that's fairly difficult to enforce though--how does one even figure out that they should file a complaint in the first place? (For all the average person knows, it did cost Walmart or whoever 4% to run the card.)
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Some of those are very populous states, but apparently the exclusion also applied to all merchants who also accept cards on competing networks such as American Express. (See the Alison Frankel extract in my previous post.)
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Meanwhile a fair number of smaller businesses seem to impose surcharges where I live regardless of the card type and despite being in a state that supposedly prohibits them. Usually that's for under $5 though, but I have seen surcharges for under $10 before. $5 is a good number for around here, IMO, since in practice "normal" purchases generally end up above that amount. Of course I'd rather not have surcharging at all but I do get that some businesses have fairly unfavorable card processing contracts.
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Dinner by Heston and BNE airport duty free surcharged, but it was 1.x%, which I believe reflected cost.
I had to connect between MEL and BNE. I screwed up, I didn't redeem Avios when it was available. So I had to buy a tix.
If I buy direct from qantas.com.au, the fare was A$289 and they wanted to collect A$6 for all card payments (except AUD Mastercard Debit, which was pretty insulting as only of the three banks I banked with in Australia gave me that card, and I don't bank with that bank anymore. It reminded me of Ryanair's Visa Electron non-surcharged option).
I bought from Cheapoair.com.au instead for A$270. No surcharge on card.
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Qantas goes to 1.3% on total fare w.e.f. 1 September 2016 http://www.ausbt.com.au/qantas-hikes...t-class-flyers