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Old Mar 11, 2020, 8:19 pm
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US Department of Homeland Security Announcement: https://www.dhs.gov/news/2020/03/11/...l-proclamation
Whitehouse.gov Proclamation (more detail): https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/presidential-actions/proclamation-suspension-entry-immigrants-nonimmigrants-certain-additional-persons-pose-risk-transmitting-2019-novel-coronavirus/

Sec. 5. Effective Date. This proclamation is effective at 11:59 p.m. eastern daylight time on March 13, 2020. This proclamation does not apply to persons aboard a flight scheduled to arrive in the United States that departed prior to 11:59 p.m. eastern daylight time on March 13, 2020.
Section 1. Suspension and Limitation on Entry. The entry into the United States, as immigrants or nonimmigrants, of all aliens who were physically present within the Schengen Area during the 14-day period preceding their entry or attempted entry into the United States is hereby suspended and limited subject to section 2 of this proclamation.

For purposes of this proclamation, the Schengen Area comprises 26 European states: Austria, Belgium, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Italy, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, and Switzerland

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March 11, 2020(WASHINGTON) Today President Donald J. Trump signed a Presidential Proclamation, which suspends the entry of most foreign nationals who have been in certain European countries at any point during the 14 days prior to their scheduled arrival to the United States. These countries, known as the Schengen Area, include: Austria, Belgium, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Italy, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, and Switzerland. This does not apply to legal permanent residents, (generally) immediate family members of U.S. citizens, and other individuals who are identified in the proclamation.

Won't affect lawful permanent resident, spouse of US citizen/PR, .... (see list of exceptions below, taken from whitehouse.gov link above)
Sec. 2. Scope of Suspension and Limitation on Entry.

(a) Section 1 of this proclamation shall not apply to:

(i) any lawful permanent resident of the United States;

(ii) any alien who is the spouse of a U.S. citizen or lawful permanent resident;

(iii) any alien who is the parent or legal guardian of a U.S. citizen or lawful permanent resident, provided that the U.S. citizen or lawful permanent resident is unmarried and under the age of 21;

(iv) any alien who is the sibling of a U.S. citizen or lawful permanent resident, provided that both are unmarried and under the age of 21;

(v) any alien who is the child, foster child, or ward of a U.S. citizen or lawful permanent resident, or who is a prospective adoptee seeking to enter the United States pursuant to the IR-4 or IH-4 visa classifications;

(vi) any alien traveling at the invitation of the United States Government for a purpose related to containment or mitigation of the virus;

(vii) any alien traveling as a nonimmigrant pursuant to a C-1, D, or C-1/D nonimmigrant visa as a crewmember or any alien otherwise traveling to the United States as air or sea crew;

(viii) any alien

(A) seeking entry into or transiting the United States pursuant to one of the following visas: A-1, A-2, C-2, C-3 (as a foreign government official or immediate family member of an official), E-1 (as an employee of TECRO or TECO or the employee’s immediate family members), G-1, G-2, G-3, G-4, NATO-1 through NATO-4, or NATO-6 (or seeking to enter as a nonimmigrant in one of those NATO categories); or

(B) whose travel falls within the scope of section 11 of the United Nations Headquarters Agreement;

(ix) any alien whose entry would not pose a significant risk of introducing, transmitting, or spreading the virus, as determined by the Secretary of Health and Human Services, through the CDC Director or his designee;

(x) any alien whose entry would further important United States law enforcement objectives, as determined by the Secretary of State, the Secretary of Homeland Security, or their respective designees, based on a recommendation of the Attorney General or his designee;

(xi) any alien whose entry would be in the national interest, as determined by the Secretary of State, the Secretary of Homeland Security, or their designees; or

(xii) members of the U.S. Armed Forces and spouses and children of members of the U.S. Armed Forces.

(b) Nothing in this proclamation shall be construed to affect any individual’s eligibility for asylum, withholding of removal, or protection under the regulations issued pursuant to the legislation implementing the Convention Against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment, consistent with the laws and regulations of the United States.
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Old Mar 11, 2020, 7:31 pm
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Originally Posted by travellingdoc1121
Does anyone know if IST would be considered a part of this ban?
wouldn't Turkey be considered Western Asia?
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Old Mar 11, 2020, 7:33 pm
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URGENT ADVICE NEEDED - As I type this, my brother and his wife are on a flight from MSP-AMS. Against my advice to postpone, they decided to take a week's vacation in Europe. He lands in about 3 hours from now. He is going to freak out and call me for help. I figured he these are his options:

1) work with Delta and see if he can immediately book a return flight. I assume the Delta is waiving rebooking/penalties right now.

2) book AMS-LHR and then another ticket from LHR back to the US.

3) book AMS-YYZ and then another ticket from YYZ back to the US.

I'm not even sure options 2 and 3 will work. Any other suggestions?

UPDATE: Delta rebooked them for immediate return AMS-SLC-PHX.

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Old Mar 11, 2020, 7:36 pm
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Well if that is true, that is that!



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Old Mar 11, 2020, 7:37 pm
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Originally Posted by MileageAddict
URGENT ADVICE NEEDED - As I type this, my brother and his wife are on a flight from MSP-AMS. Against my advice to postpone, they decided to take a week's vacation in Europe. He lands in about 3 hours from now. He is going to freak out and call me for help. I figured he these are his options:

1) work with Delta and see if he can immediately book a return flight. I assume the Delta is waiving rebooking/penalties right now.

2) book AMS-LHR and then another ticket from LHR back to the US.

3) book AMS-YYZ and then another ticket from YYZ back to the US.

I'm not even sure options 2 and 3 will work. Any other suggestions?
Are they US citizens (or permanent legal residents)?

I assume Delta will cancel and refund the return flight. So you could perhaps book them a return flight right now and have them turn around right away, before Friday. I would not wait; the last couple of flights will be very popular, I think.
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Old Mar 11, 2020, 7:37 pm
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Originally Posted by MileageAddict
URGENT ADVICE NEEDED - As I type this, my brother and his wife are on a flight from MSP-AMS. Against my advice to postpone, they decided to take a week's vacation in Europe. He lands in about 3 hours from now. He is going to freak out and call me for help. I figured he these are his options:

1) work with Delta and see if he can immediately book a return flight. I assume the Delta is waiving rebooking/penalties right now.

2) book AMS-LHR and then another ticket from LHR back to the US.

3) book AMS-YYZ and then another ticket from YYZ back to the US.

I'm not even sure options 2 and 3 will work. Any other suggestions?
Norwegian Air has cheap cash flights from LGW to US. Book that for now - then find a way to get to london at the end of their vacation.
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Old Mar 11, 2020, 7:40 pm
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Of all the idiotic things in this statement (I know we're not in OMNI/PR, but the virus is already in SEA and NYC so why will banning travel from Europe help in the slightest?), the dumbest is announcing it at 9:00 PM ET, when it is 2:00 AM CET and everyone in Europe is asleep.

Good luck to everyone out there who is in Europe on the mad dash to rebook. My wife is in LON and I started freaking out until I heard the UK was to be excepted. It doesn't make any sense, because the UK also has plenty of cases, but I'll take it in this particular event.
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Old Mar 11, 2020, 7:41 pm
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Ireland isn't mainland europe either but that's also been excluded. Also not in Schengen

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2020/03/11/...l-proclamation

Today President Donald J. Trump signed a Presidential Proclamation, which suspends the entry of most foreign nationals who have been in certain European countries at any point during the 14 days prior to their scheduled arrival to the United States. These countries, known as the Schengen Area, include: Austria, Belgium, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Italy, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, and Switzerland. This does not apply to legal permanent residents, (generally) immediate family members of U.S. citizens, and other individuals who are identified in the proclamation.
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Old Mar 11, 2020, 7:43 pm
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Doubt the UK Exemption will last long. Just moved return BA flight tomorrow from EWR forward to the 19:40 departure. Reciprocal ban highly likely given the huge scale of outbreak here (only low n due to lack of testing).
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Old Mar 11, 2020, 7:46 pm
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Currently on Flight 58, just left BOS and headed to LHR. Flight back is March 22. currently March Any suggestions?

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Old Mar 11, 2020, 7:47 pm
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Argh. On April 9th I have an ex-EU starting from CDG-LHR-SFO. Will have to wait for the specifics, and either see if BA will allow me to start from LHR or whether I will have to cancel the whole trip.

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Old Mar 11, 2020, 7:52 pm
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Just saw on CNN that this ban doesn't apply to U.S. citizens or permanent residents (generally-- whatever that means). Said U.S. citizens returning from Europe (except UK) will have to do 14-day quarantine.
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Old Mar 11, 2020, 7:54 pm
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Originally Posted by travellingdoc1121
Does anyone know if IST would be considered a part of this ban?
Are Trump and Erdogan friends right now?

That will determine the answer.
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Old Mar 11, 2020, 7:54 pm
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I caught the tail end. So if you go via UK are you fine, but no direct flights from the rest of the EU?
Nope:
"suspends the entry of most foreign nationals who have been in certain European countries at any point during the 14 days prior to their scheduled arrival to the United States"
Via UK is not an option unless you have been in the UK for the 14 days.
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Old Mar 11, 2020, 7:55 pm
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Originally Posted by channonc
Just saw on CNN that this ban doesn't apply to U.S. citizens or permanent residents (generally-- whatever that means). Said U.S. citizens returning from Europe (except UK) will have to do 14-day quarantine.
Here's the DHS release which outlines the ban:

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2020/03/11/...l-proclamation
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Old Mar 11, 2020, 7:56 pm
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Will this affect flights that transit in EU?
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