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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 6:54 am
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Originally Posted by Statguy
My apologies for the rudimentary questions. For some reason I am unable to view the CO website. Firefox tells me, "Firefox has detected that the server is redirecting the request for this address in a way that will never complete."
Try http://www.continental.com/web/en-US/default.aspx.

And also take a look through the FAQ sticky on this forum. A lot of the questions are answered there as well.
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 8:06 am
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That is pooling travel on different carriers into a single mileage account. It is very different than pooling the miles accrued in the various programs (e.g. 10K on CO, 20K on UA, 20K on US = 50K *A and *G status) for a single status level. And the latter is generally what people mean when they ask the question that the OP did.
actually I was going to post Exactly what trooper did. I also took what the OP asked as I can Only earn status by flying on 1 Carrier. Reread the question and it isnt very clear if the OP meant it the way troper and I took it or how you took it.

So trooper was correct to post as they did in case that was what the OP had in mind, cause I was going to and would have if I didnt 1st read thru the thread
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 8:14 am
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Originally Posted by craz
actually I was going to post Exactly what trooper did. I also took what the OP asked as I can Only earn status by flying on 1 Carrier. Reread the question and it isnt very clear if the OP meant it the way troper and I took it or how you took it.

So trooper was correct to post as they did in case that was what the OP had in mind, cause I was going to and would have if I didnt 1st read thru the thread
The difference in my mind is whether one is trying to pool "miles" which are already accrued or "travel" which has yet to happen. It is quite rare that someone is asking about the latter, IME.
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 10:07 am
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The difference in my mind is whether one is trying to pool "miles" which are already accrued or "travel" which has yet to happen. It is quite rare that someone is asking about the latter, IME.
Let me clarify my original question a bit. Let's say I am a CO OnePass Member and I wish to deposit all travel miles into this account. If I fly another *A airline, can I deposit those miles into my CO account? What trooper and craz are saying, I believe, is that you CAN deposit those miles into your CO account only if the non-CO carrier provides you with this option at the time of booking. Is it customary for Alliance partners to give you the option of which FF program you wish to deposit your miles?
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 10:29 am
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Originally Posted by Statguy
Let me clarify my original question a bit. Let's say I am a CO OnePass Member and I wish to deposit all travel miles into this account. If I fly another *A airline, can I deposit those miles into my CO account? What trooper and craz are saying, I believe, is that you CAN deposit those miles into your CO account only if the non-CO carrier provides you with this option at the time of booking. Is it customary for Alliance partners to give you the option of which FF program you wish to deposit your miles?
Yes and yes. You can credit the miles to any partner of the carrier you are flying on. There are a myriad of rules and qualifications to that statement, including variable earning rates based on fare paid and other fun stuff that makes figuring it all out somewhat complicated, but you can generally credit a trip taken on on alliance member to any other alliance partner.

In my mind that isn't "pooling miles for credit" since you only have miles in one account at the end of the day. There is nothing to pool with only one account.
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 10:38 am
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Originally Posted by sbm12
Yes and yes. You can credit the miles to any partner of the carrier you are flying on. There are a myriad of rules and qualifications to that statement, including variable earning rates based on fare paid and other fun stuff that makes figuring it all out somewhat complicated, but you can generally credit a trip taken on on alliance member to any other alliance partner.

In my mind that isn't "pooling miles for credit" since you only have miles in one account at the end of the day. There is nothing to pool with only one account.
guess your IME was Incorrect this time, apology accepted
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 10:49 am
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Originally Posted by Statguy
Let me clarify my original question a bit. Let's say I am a CO OnePass Member and I wish to deposit all travel miles into this account. If I fly another *A airline, can I deposit those miles into my CO account? What trooper and craz are saying, I believe, is that you CAN deposit those miles into your CO account only if the non-CO carrier provides you with this option at the time of booking. Is it customary for Alliance partners to give you the option of which FF program you wish to deposit your miles?
It has nothing to do with what a Carrier will allow at time of booking.

eg. I can book a CO flight today on co.com put in my CO # or leave it blank (then I didnt log in when I booked or purchased the tkt) I can leave no FFB # in their and at check-in or even at the Gate I can ask that they put in my DL # (till10/24 CO is apart of ST) or my NW# or AZ # etc etc. Or I can put in my CO # when booking or purchasing and change it at anytime prior to the flight departing to another Carriers program

I think that I can even fly and afterwards send in the BPs (original) and request credit for those flights, if its to another ST Carrier other than CO I wouldnt want to do this after 10/24 even for a trip that was flown before 10/24, might get messy but it should be allowed.

Basically the best thing to do is checkout the different Carriers in a particular Alliance and see which 1 of the Members will have the best Bernefits for You . Lets say getting into a Lounge is important and lets say CO levels doesnt allow for that (it does) but DL s does. So then that might tip DL as the 1 youd want to put the miles credit into. Or cashing in for free trips then youd want to see which program costs less miles to where you normally will want to get free tkts to

Its really a YMMV as each person has different things that are Important to them. To 1 person they love COs free Upgrades, to another UAs E+ is worth more. to another it might be since they are based in CLT flying US as much as they hate the Carrier is more important as they want to fly Non-stops as much as they can

I dont think anyone can tell another person whats best, unless that person lists All of what they want and dont want in a Program

thats something You will have to do for yourself, Sorry, but we are here to help with any questions you may have to arrive at that answer
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 1:18 pm
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Originally Posted by craz
It has nothing to do with what a Carrier will allow at time of booking.

eg. I can book a CO flight today on co.com put in my CO # or leave it blank (then I didnt log in when I booked or purchased the tkt) I can leave no FFB # in their and at check-in or even at the Gate I can ask that they put in my DL # (till10/24 CO is apart of ST) or my NW# or AZ # etc etc. Or I can put in my CO # when booking or purchasing and change it at anytime prior to the flight departing to another Carriers program

I think that I can even fly and afterwards send in the BPs (original) and request credit for those flights, if its to another ST Carrier other than CO I wouldnt want to do this after 10/24 even for a trip that was flown before 10/24, might get messy but it should be allowed.
That is splendid news. What if I do not book through an airline, but rather a travel search engine (e.g., orbitz, travelocity), will I still be able to deposit my miles into my CO account at the gate?

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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 1:31 pm
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That is splendid news. What if I do not book through an airline, but rather a travel search engine (e.g., orbitz, kayak), will I still be able to deposit my miles into my CO account at the gate?
With most travel agents you can input your Onepass number at the time you book, in some cases after you have booked, at airport or even after the flight - although the latter is not recommended.
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 8:59 pm
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That is splendid news. What if I do not book through an airline, but rather a travel search engine (e.g., orbitz, travelocity), will I still be able to deposit my miles into my CO account at the gate?
There is no reason ever to wait until the gate. There are several disadvantages to waiting that long:
  • Agent may be too busy and not do it right
  • Once you have even lowest elite status, you can reserve "better" seats. It's too late at the gate.
  • Once you have elite status, you are eligible for upgrades (on CO) on domestic flights. All the upgrades will be gone to people who put their number in earlier.
  • Even without status, sometimes airlines give a slightly higher priority in cases of irregular operations (IRROPS= cancels, delays etc.) to any members of their FF program over "nobodies"; If you wait till the gate, you're a "nobody".

Orbitz, Expedia, Travelocity, and most other 3rd-party travel agency sites, including most corporate booking sites, can properly put a FF# from the airline that is operating the flight into the reservation at booking time. That is, they can put a CO# on a CO flight, a UA# on a UA flight, etc.

Expedia also can successfully put any other airline FF# you have on file into any airline's flight. It's up to you to know what partner you can earn on. Putting a CO FF# into an AA flight isn't going to get you anything.

Recently, to my pleasant surprise, Orbitz gained the ability to put alliance partner FF#s into a flight on any airline in the same alliance, and the drop-down list of partner FF programs is smart - it knows what the partners are. At least the partners in the same big alliance - Star Alliance (*A here at Flyertalk), SkyTeam(ST) or oneworld (OW). I'm on a US flight layover right now, where Orbitz properly got my UA FF# and status into US' reservation without me needing to call US.

Finally, CO's website lets you look up an itinerary by CO confirm# or by ticket#, and put in or change an FF# no matter where you booked it.

Not all the partners do, and given that CO is new to *A, I expect that they may not have all their websites ready to take CO FF#s, but their actual reservation systems will. In that case I'd call the operating airline ahead of time with your CO FF#. Assuming that they update their websites on time, UA allows entering a partner FF# at booking time but you have to call to change it. US is the same, but you also can enter it once if it never had it. Air Canada lets you enter partners at booking time, or you can call them. That covers the North American *A airlines.

Remember, you only want to use the CO OnePass account for all of these (21 or so) other *A airlines. There are some limited reasons why a minority of FTers earn in more than one program in the same alliance (only one program per flight, of course!), but that's "advanced class" and not a good idea for most people. For the average up-to-100,000 mile/year traveler, you want all your miles in just one FF program per alliance.
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 10:37 pm
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I am ready to book a flight now for travel in January on US Airways using Orbitz. From what I gather in this thread, I should contact US Airways after October 27th and ask them to credit my miles to my CO OnePass account. Alternatively, and as a last resort, I can ask the US Airways gate agent to credit my CO account before I board.
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Old Oct 6, 2009 | 6:13 am
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Originally Posted by Statguy
I am ready to book a flight now for travel in January on US Airways using Orbitz. From what I gather in this thread, I should contact US Airways after October 27th and ask them to credit my miles to my CO OnePass account. Alternatively, and as a last resort, I can ask the US Airways gate agent to credit my CO account before I board.
Correct.
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Old Oct 8, 2009 | 5:05 pm
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I just purchased a Delta flight for Christmas and entered my OnePass # into the Orbitz order page. Can I assume that I will earn miles for this flight, or will I not receive any credit for the flight since I'll be flying post *A merger?
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I just purchased a Delta flight for Christmas and entered my OnePass # into the Orbitz order page. Can I assume that I will earn miles for this flight, or will I not receive any credit for the flight since I'll be flying post *A merger?
You will not receive any OP miles on Delta after CO joins *A
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Old Oct 8, 2009 | 5:36 pm
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Originally Posted by Statguy
I just purchased a Delta flight for Christmas and entered my OnePass # into the Orbitz order page. Can I assume that I will earn miles for this flight, or will I not receive any credit for the flight since I'll be flying post *A merger?
i do not think that will work. after the 24th of October, CO leaves the Skyteam alliance. you either need to use your DL # or another Skyteam # to get any credit for that flight.
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