Refundable H fare?
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Refundable H fare?
I just booked a flight tomorrow, EWR-BOS one way. It came up as a refundable H fare? I thought only (some) B fares and Y fares were refundable in economy.
I wonder if this is a website error since the old H is the new B....
I wonder if this is a website error since the old H is the new B....
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I have a refundable K fare booked.
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A much better alternative to "wondering" is reading fare rules
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[KVS Availability Tool 3.4.0/Platinum - DotRes: EWR-BOS/CO/H1/259 USD]
:[KVS Availability Tool 3.4.0/Platinum - DotRes: EWR-BOS/CO/H1/259 USD]
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PENALTIES : FARE RULE CHANGES CHANGES PERMITTED. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. A. UNUSED TICKETS ARE FULLY REFUNDABLE. B. THE UNUSED PORTION OF A PARTIALLY USED TICKET IS REFUNDABLE TO THE ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT. WHEN ROUND TRIP FARES WERE ORIGINALLY USED - TO DETERMINE THE REFUND - REPRICE THE ORIGINAL OUTBOUND AS A OW FARE USING CURRENT REFUNDABLE OW FARES. ANY RESIDUAL WILL BE REFUNDED TO THE ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT. CHANGES PERMITTED. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. SECTION 1 - WHOLLY UNUSED TICKETS - IN THE EVENT OF CHANGES TO TICKETED FLIGHTS BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TKT VALIDITY CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY THOSE OF CO INTERNATIONAL FARES A. REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TICKET WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET - 1. NO CHANGE TO FARE BREAKS 2. SAME FARE ON THE 1ST COMPONENT IS USED 3. CO FARES ARE USED 4. PRIVATE FARE TARIFFS ARE INCLUDED 5. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET 6. VALIDATE ADVANCE RES REQUIREMENTS WHEN BOOKING DATE KNOWN 7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE REFUND RESIDUAL THEN ADD-COLLECT - REFUND VIA ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMOUNT OR- B. REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET - 1. CO FARES ARE USED 2. PRIVATE FARE TARIFFS ARE INCLUDED 3. VALIDATE ADVANCE RES REQUIREMENTS WHEN BOOKING DATE KNOWN 4. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE REFUND RESIDUAL THEN ADD-COLLECT - REFUND VIA ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMOUNT OR- C. REPRICE USING CURRENT FARES - ONLY BOOKING CODE CHANGES PERMITTED PROVIDED THAT ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET - 1. NO CHANGE IN FARE BREAKS 2. CO FARES ARE USED 3. PROVATE FARE TARIFFS ARE INCLUDED 4. VALIDATE ADVANCE RESERVATIONS REQUIREMENTS WHEN BOOKING DATE KNOWN 5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE OF THE JOURNEY WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE REFUND RESIDUAL THEN ADD-COLLECT - REFUND VIA ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMOUNT OR - D. CHANGES NOT PERMITTED/REFUND TKT - ANY REMAINING AMOUNT WILL APPLY TO NEW TKT SECTION 2 - PARTIALLY USED TICKETS - AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TKT VALIDITY CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY THOSE OF CO INTERNATIONAL FARES A. CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS USE FARES IN EFFECT TODAY A1. ALL OTHERS USE CURRENTLY TKTD FARE PROVIDED THAT ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET - 1. NO CHANGE TO THE FARE BREAKS UP TO THE FIRST CHANGED FARE COMPONENT 2. FULLY FLOWN FARE NOT REPRICED TO FURTHER POINT 3. CO FARES ARE USED 4. PRIVATE TARIFFS ARE INCLUDED 5. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET 6. VALIDATE ADVANCE RES REQUIREMENTS WHEN BOOKING DATE IS KNOWN 7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE REFUND RESIDUAL THEN ADD-COLLECT - REFUND VIA ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMOUNT OR - B. CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN THE TICKET WAS ISSUED B1. UNCHANGED FARE COMPONENTS USING CURRENTLY TICKETED FARES PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET - 1. NO CHANGE TO THE FARE BREAKS 2. FULLY FLOWN FARE NOT REPRICED TO A FURTHER POINT 3. CO FARES ARE USED 4. PRIVATE FARE TARIFFS ARE INCLUDED 5. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET 6. VALIDATE ADVANCE RES REQUIREMENTS WHEN BOOKING DATE IS KNOWN 7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF THE JOURNEY WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE REFUND RESIDUAL THE ADD-COLLECT - REFUND VIA ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMOUNT OR - C. CHANGES NOT PERMITTED/REFUND TKT - ANY REMAINING AMOUNT WILL APPLY TO NEW TKT GENERAL RULE - APPLY UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED CANCELLATIONS PER TICKET CHARGE USD 150.00 FOR LOST TICKET. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. NO SERVICE CHARGE WILL BE IMPOSED FOR MILITARY PASSENGERS WHEN TRANSPORTATION IS PAID WITH A U.S. GOVERNMENT TRANSPORTATION REQUEST FORM NO. 1169. HIP_MILEAGE_EXCEPTIONS : NO HIP OR MILEAGE EXCEPTIONS APPLY. TICKET_ENDORSEMENTS : THE ORIGINAL TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED - /-REFUNDABLE-/ - IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX. CHILDREN_DISCOUNTS : 1ST INF/INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - NO CHARGE. MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER. OR - INS/INFANT WITH A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE FARE. MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER. TOUR_CONDUCTOR_DISCOUNTS : NO DISCOUNTS FOR TOUR CONDUCTORS. AGENT_DISCOUNTS : NO DISCOUNTS FOR SALE AGENTS. ALL_OTHER_DISCOUNTS : SRC/SENIOR CITIZEN PSGR - NO DISCOUNT. MISCELLANEOUS_PROVISIONS : NO PROVISIONS APPLY. GROUPS : NO GROUP PROVISIONS APPLY. TOURS : NO TOUR PROVISIONS APPLY. VISIT_ANOTHER_COUNTRY : NO VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY PROVISIONS APPLY. DEPOSITS : NO DEPOSIT PROVISIONS APPLY. RULE_APPLICATION_AND_OTHER_CONDITIONS : NORMAL FARES APPLICATION CLASS OF SERVICE THESE FARES APPLY FOR FIRST/BUSINESS/COACH/OFF PEAK COACH CLASS SERVICE. TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION THIS RULE ALSO APPLIES TO JOINT TRANSPORTATION. CAPACITY LIMITATIONS SEATS ARE LIMITED. VIA B/H/K/L/Q/V TYPE FARES WITHIN THE CONT. U.S. SEATS ARE LIMITED. ELIGIBILITY : NO ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS APPLY. DAY_TIME : NO DAY/TIME TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY. SEASONALITY : NO SEASONAL TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY. FLIGHT_APPLICATION : NO FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS APPLY. ADVANCE_RESERVATIONS_TICKETING : CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL SECTORS. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. STANDBY PERMITTED AT NO CHARGE FOR EARLIER/LATER SAME DAY FLIGHTS. MINIMUM_STAY : NO MINIMUM STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY. MAXIMUM_STAY : NO MAXIMUM STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY. STOPOVERS : NO STOPOVERS PERMITTED. NO STOPOVER OCCURS IF PASSENGER TAKES NEXT AVAILABLE FLIGHT WITHIN 4 HOURS. TRANSFERS : UNLIMITED TRANSFERS PERMITTED. - SURFACE AT FARE BREAK AND EMBEDDED SECTORS PERMITTED EXCEPT FOR PRICING UNITS WITHIN/BETWEEN US AND CANADA - INCLUDING PR/USV1 - SURFACE AT FARE BREAK IS NOT PERMITTED. COMBINATIONS : ADD-ONS NOT PERMITTED. FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS WITH ANY FARE FOR ANY CARRIER IN ANY RULE AND TARIFF TO FORM SINGLE/DOUBLE OPEN JAWS/2-COMPONENT ROUND TRIPS/ MULTI-COMPONENT CIRCLE TRIPS. END-ON-END END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED. VALIDATE ADJACENT LINE OF FLIGHT FARE COMPONENTS ONLY. TRAVEL MUST BE VIA THE POINT OF COMBINATION. PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE FOR ANY CARRIER IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF CPR - BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES-CANADA DFR - WITHIN THE UNITED STATES FBRNAPV - WITHIN NORTH AMERICA. COMBINATIONS ARE FOR CARRIER CO IN ANY RULE IN ANY TARIFF. NOTE - THE CITY PAIRS BELOW ARE CONSIDERED THE SAME POINT - EFD-HOU EFD-IAH HOU-IAH IAD-DCA LGA-JFK MDW-ORD BLACKOUT_DATES : NO BLACKOUT DATES APPLY. SURCHARGES : NO SURCHARGE REQUIREMENTS APPLY. ACCOMPANIED_TRAVEL : ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL NOT REQUIRED. TRAVEL_RESTRICTIONS : NO TRAVEL DATE RESTRICTIONS APPLY. SALES_RESTRICTIONS : FARE RULE NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. TICKETS ARE NON-TRANSFERABLE. TO PURCHASE OR RESELL THIS TICKET FROM/TO ANY ENTITY OTHER THAN CONTINENTAL AIRLINES INC. OR ITS AUTHORIZED AGENTS IS NOT PERMITTED. PASSENGERS WILL BE ASKED FOR PHOTO I.D. AT TIME OF FLIGHT CHECK-IN. IF THE NAME ON THE TICKET AND THE PASSENGERS I.D. DO NOT MATCH THE PASSENGER WILL BE REQUIRED TO SURRENDER THE TICKET AND PURCHASE THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR THE DEPARTING FLIGHT. GENERAL RULE - APPLY UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED TICKETS MAY BE ISSUED BY PTA. PTA CONSTITUTES TICKETING. TICKETS MAY NOT BE SOLD IN VENEZUELA. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. EXTENSION OF TICKET VALIDITY PERMITTED UNDER GUIDELINES SET FORTH BY CARRIER. CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS.
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I print the fare rules to PDF every time I buy a ticket. Rarely do I have to look them up, but it's really nice to have. I just tried to convince my brother and his SO to keep a PDF/whatnot of the rules a few days ago, but they just got annoyed... of well. At least I got the SO to sign up for DEQM; she'll get Silver out of the trip.

