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Vulcan Sep 22, 2009 7:15 am
Originally Posted by bjamin82 (Post 12418047)
At FLL... Jet Blue moved out of the Continental Terminal... last week I was told by a PC employee that the rumor was USAir and UA were going to move in.
That has the potential to make a relatively small PC very overcrowded.

Phudnik Sep 22, 2009 7:22 am
Originally Posted by bjamin82 (Post 12418047)
At FLL... Jet Blue moved out of the Continental Terminal... last week I was told by a PC employee that the rumor was USAir and UA were going to move in.
At the moment, UA doesn't serve FLL.

bocastephen Sep 22, 2009 7:28 am
Originally Posted by bjamin82 (Post 12418047)
At FLL... Jet Blue moved out of the Continental Terminal... last week I was told by a PC employee that the rumor was USAir and UA were going to move in.
Unless US is scaling back their flights dramatically, there is no way they are moving to T1 - they already use more gates at T3 than exist at T1 West. Also, UA doesn't even serve FLL anymore, so if they were mentioned by name, the rumor is just that - rumor.

What *might* happen, is Air Canada moving to T1 West because they're currently sharing the Delta terminal. Last month I asked someone in the PC about Air Canada, but they did not hear anything at that time.

There is no way they can accommodate US club members at the PC without totally ruining the experience for PC members - I just don't see it happening.

sbm12 Sep 22, 2009 7:39 am
Why all the discussion of US clubs/members? There hasn't been any public discussion from CO on any partnership with US beyond their mutual membership in *A.

CO/UA want to align to lower costs and share employees. Since US isn't party to that deal there isn't much of a reason to align with them from that perspective. It is also useful for passenger connections, but that is a secondary issue with respect to these changes.

Lurch Sep 22, 2009 8:56 am
Originally Posted by kss5555 (Post 11533119)
At DTW I have heard from the ticketing agents that Continental will be moving to the new North Terminal in the early Fall as they transition out of SkyTeam and into Star Alliance. Right now they use three gates on the B Concourse and one gate on the C concourse for regional get operations. The North Terminal at DTW has open gates.

As for ORD, I have been told by the Presidents Club and the World Club Agents that Delta is moving to the Northwest gate area and the WorldClub/Presidents Club will become an excluse Delta SkyClub this summer or fall.
Last week I asked two GA's who said there were no plans to move. They heard it was too expensive. It's anybody's guess if and when they move north.

OPFlyer Sep 24, 2009 5:59 am
I'm not sure if this has been posted or not.

Terminal Relocations
Location Effective Dates* Current Location New Location Other Information

Barcelona International Airport (BCN) Nov. 10, 2009 Terminal 2 Terminal 1
Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport (CVG) Sept. 26, 2009 Terminal 3 Terminal 2
Frankfurt International Airport (FRA) Oct. 27, 2009 Terminal 2 Terminal 1
Houston Intercontinental Airport (IAH) May 18 – Nov. 2009 EliteAccess Check-in Terminal C EliteAccess Check-in Terminal E The Terminal C lobby construction Phase 1 of 3 is complete, however, Elite Access Check-in is still limited in Terminal C. Please continue to use Terminal E EliteAccess Check-in until further notice.
Paris Charles de Gaulle International Airport (CDG) Nov. 17, 2009 Terminal 2A Terminal 1, Satellite 1
Tokyo Narita International Airport (NRT) Nov. 1, 2009 Terminal 1 North Terminal 1 South

ConciergeMike Sep 24, 2009 6:51 am
Originally Posted by OPFlyer (Post 12429880)
I'm not sure if this has been posted or not.
Short of the construction notice at IAH, those are pretty much all anti-DL moves. I don't know places like CDG and NRT that well - do those moves put them closer to UA or to Star in general?

sbm12 Sep 24, 2009 7:33 am
Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 12430069)
I don't know places like CDG and NRT that well - do those moves put them closer to UA or to Star in general?
Yes and yes.

The NRT move isn't all that big a deal. The CDG one is. But without the AF alliance connections moving to T1 isn't all that bad a thing, I suppose. A bit of a schlep to the train but otherwise not so bad.

SuperG1955 Sep 25, 2009 7:17 pm
MSY update
 
According to the CSRs at the MSY SC, NWA flights and operations have been moved to Terminal D as part of the DL operation. DL took back the gate that they had rented to B6 which gives them 4 gates with CO having the other 3 gates in the D Teminal wing.

I asked if they'd heard anything about CO moving to Term C with United and they said that they had heard that CO was staying in D and not moving.

Even with the scalebacks of flights and equipment, CO is still running a minimum of 15 flights a day in and out of MSY of which 13 are mainline.

Renard Sep 25, 2009 7:43 pm
Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 12430069)
Short of the construction notice at IAH, those are pretty much all anti-DL moves. I don't know places like CDG and NRT that well - do those moves put them closer to UA or to Star in general?
CDG...yes that puts them closer to all/most of the star carriers and the star lounge in Terminal 1. (which I assume CO flyers with have access to....curiously enough UA flyers do not have access to it and must use the RCC at CDG.) Terminal 1 is the older part of the airport and is not as nice at the largely AF & friends Terminal 2. Last time I was there, terminal 1 was being renovated. I am not sure what the status of the renovation is now... it seems like it had been going on forever though. Terminal 1 definitely needed renovation.

Renard Sep 25, 2009 7:47 pm
Originally Posted by quantumslip (Post 12414139)
any update on IAH? I know there were rumors of UA moving to C, but it looks like they may stay in A with Terminalink construction done soon. I guess we'll know soon?
I asked in Terminal A at IAH the other day and it is unclear whether UA will be moving back over to the other side but it definitely is being discussed/negotiated. As the PC is on the other side, it would be nice if they did move. However, both sides will be linked to the new train.

It would shock me if UA moved to terminal C/E. That would leave too many gates open to serve possible new competition in Terminal A...which CO wouldn't want. If they move, it would be to the other side of A...in my uninformed opinion.

ssullivan Sep 25, 2009 9:12 pm
Originally Posted by Renard (Post 12439471)
I asked in Terminal A at IAH the other day and it is unclear whether UA will be moving back over to the other side but it definitely is being discussed/negotiated. As the PC is on the other side, it would be nice if they did move. However, both sides will be linked to the new train.

It would shock me if UA moved to terminal C/E. That would leave too many gates open to serve possible new competition in Terminal A...which CO wouldn't want. If they move, it would be to the other side of A...in my uninformed opinion.
It would make total sense for UA to switch with DL/NW again at IAH, and would make the Presidents Club much more convenient for UA passengers. Heck, while they're at it they might as well move US back to the north side of A as well. Seems like there should be enough gates there to handle US, UA, AC, and the Colgan flights.

EWR764 Sep 25, 2009 9:36 pm
I am not a fan of the move to T1 at CDG, but the Star lounges there are better than the facilities CO has at 2A, so I suppose it's a step in the right direction. Overall, probably a wash, given that the train is now quite a bit further away, but then again, Paris will no longer be very important to CO once AF is no longer a partner.

Renard Sep 26, 2009 5:41 pm
Originally Posted by ssullivan (Post 12439712)
It would make total sense for UA to switch with DL/NW again at IAH, and would make the Presidents Club much more convenient for UA passengers. Heck, while they're at it they might as well move US back to the north side of A as well. Seems like there should be enough gates there to handle US, UA, AC, and the Colgan flights.
I think that this will happen eventually. Reading between the lines, it sounded like the issue is who is going to pay for such a move. My guess is that UA does not want to pay for the move.

dlen111 Sep 27, 2009 1:50 am
Originally Posted by SuperG1955 (Post 12439394)
According to the CSRs at the MSY SC, NWA flights and operations have been moved to Terminal D as part of the DL operation. DL took back the gate that they had rented to B6 which gives them 4 gates with CO having the other 3 gates in the D Teminal wing.

I asked if they'd heard anything about CO moving to Term C with United and they said that they had heard that CO was staying in D and not moving.

Even with the scalebacks of flights and equipment, CO is still running a minimum of 15 flights a day in and out of MSY of which 13 are mainline.
the synergies of CO/UA and DL/NW are not going to be harmless/perfect. and MSY is the perfect example. CO's not moving. DL's not moving. my hopes were that DL would move, close the CRC and then CO would make it a PC. NOT happening. MSY is Huge for CO. but as it plays now, us CO'ers are stuck at the three seat bar near security. HP and B6 are gone. maybe they could do a PC in that area. that would be GREAT!


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