Change fees push me over the top
#76
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I don't disagree with you, from a purely technical sense. CO did no wrong, CO has their policies, etc. etc.
The issue is that CO behaves so much differently from others, that I don't think the OP's reaction is abnormal. I'm sure many people are surprised (including some on this thread) that this is how CO handles it.
It's a lousy policy, and I think the OP figured out how to get around it by booking elsewhere.
The issue is that CO behaves so much differently from others, that I don't think the OP's reaction is abnormal. I'm sure many people are surprised (including some on this thread) that this is how CO handles it.
It's a lousy policy, and I think the OP figured out how to get around it by booking elsewhere.
#77
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My point is that to single out this one issue (the change fee) and ignore the complimentary upgrades (OP is a Plat, after all) is to cherry-pick benefits. Besides, the fact that paying the $150 up front is essentially a wash (pointed out in a number of posts above) makes the OP's logic questionable. I initially hated having to pay the change fee with new money, but after thinking it through, I realized that it made no difference in terms of the money that I laid out for flying CO.
#78
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A measly 4 e-certs per 10,000 miles means that I generally have to pay to fly up front on AA.
My point is that to single out this one issue (the change fee) and ignore the complimentary upgrades (OP is a Plat, after all) is to cherry-pick benefits. Besides, the fact that paying the $150 up front is essentially a wash (pointed out in a number of posts above) makes the OP's logic questionable. I initially hated having to pay the change fee with new money, but after thinking it through, I realized that it made no difference in terms of the money that I laid out for flying CO.
My point is that to single out this one issue (the change fee) and ignore the complimentary upgrades (OP is a Plat, after all) is to cherry-pick benefits. Besides, the fact that paying the $150 up front is essentially a wash (pointed out in a number of posts above) makes the OP's logic questionable. I initially hated having to pay the change fee with new money, but after thinking it through, I realized that it made no difference in terms of the money that I laid out for flying CO.
You also seem to be comparing your experience as an AA Gold (bottom tier, Silver in CO's world) to your experience as a CO Plat. Theoretically, a top-tier should do better in terms of upgrades vs. a bottom tier, though frankly, 4 x 500 milers for 10K flown is a 25% upgrade rate, which isn't much lower than the 33% upgrade rate I got as CO Plat last year.
In my situation, comparing just upgrades (if want to do that same comparison, but top-tier to top-tier), 40 x 500-milers + 8 x confirmed regionals + 6 x SWU's on UA for this 1K nets some like 90% upgrades vs. a measly 33% upgrade rate as CO Plat. AA EXPs also report very high upgrade success with their free upgrades and VIPOWs. Using your logic, perhaps CO should be more generous with its policies to make up for its poor delivery on Elite benefits.
#79
Join Date: Feb 2003
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Agreed that this is annoying, but as stated it all (usually) comes back to you if you use CO again at some point.
BUT...
Pity the poor folks at US... where you pay the fee with new cash AND lose the residual balance. That is why I simply never risk booking US tickets ever; as a result, they are about the only airline I will not book on at all.
BUT...
Pity the poor folks at US... where you pay the fee with new cash AND lose the residual balance. That is why I simply never risk booking US tickets ever; as a result, they are about the only airline I will not book on at all.
#80
Join Date: Oct 2008
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This policy is obviously in place solely to try to make it more difficult to use the residual balance, so CO can reap some easy money when the balance expires. Same idea as having non-combinable travel vouchers. I've seen people recieve DL compensation of $250 in five $50 non-combinable vouchers, the ATL special! For an occaisonal traveler, some of those will likely expire uncashed and convert into pure profit.
+1 to the poster upthread about splitting round trips into one-ways to utilize the vouchers.
For a frequent flyer it doesn't really matter, as it will end up a wash. But for an infrequent flyer this is just easy fee money for CO. The policy should be changed. Not sure why there is such hostility in the thread.
+1 to the poster upthread about splitting round trips into one-ways to utilize the vouchers.
For a frequent flyer it doesn't really matter, as it will end up a wash. But for an infrequent flyer this is just easy fee money for CO. The policy should be changed. Not sure why there is such hostility in the thread.
#81
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1 - if the original ticket is domestic CO/commuter flights, can it be reused on CO codeshares? (UA does not allow it.)
2 - is the expiration date of the residual - is it 1 year from the original ticketing date or 1 year from the date you receive the residual?
Thanks.