777s To Be Based In GUM?
Oct 6, 2008 | 9:26 am
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4 is the number of 767-400s that have the 20/236 configuration, after converting one of the original 5 to 35/200 earlier this year. So, this would be a 1-to-1 replacement.
Don't forget the Boeing strike. Not only will it push back the 787s, CO also has 2 772ERs that are supposed to be deliver in 2nd half of 2009. Who knows what's the status of that now.
Don't forget the Boeing strike. Not only will it push back the 787s, CO also has 2 772ERs that are supposed to be deliver in 2nd half of 2009. Who knows what's the status of that now.
Oct 6, 2008 | 9:30 am
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It's always prudent if the price is right, and if the utilization is in the Pacific, I'd be willing to bet that cargo makes the money to justify then and not pax.
Oct 6, 2008 | 9:38 am
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That comes to mind, as do a number of *A hubs in Europe.
Oct 6, 2008 | 9:42 am
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I have heard this from a variety of sources. What is carried in the holds is often more valuable dollar-wise than the souls in the seats.
Oct 6, 2008 | 9:52 am
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Once CO joins Star Alliance, everyone will have the opportunity for the 773 and 772LR.
Over the past three years I have tried to burn off my remaining US Air miles and got to fly a lot of old SQ 772s, NH's new 773s, and in Feb. I have an AC 77L with the business suite scheduled. The new Air Canada 777s are the only ones with personal air vents. NH has seven across in business, but great service.
Does CO get an extra slot at NRT if it replaces 2 daily 738 flights with a single 777?
Remember the old days when they had all those DC10's in GUM. The DC10 with the pub lounge flew GUM-SPN-HKG-GUM, and other routes. The DC10-30s to HNL had a real first class cabin.
Over the past three years I have tried to burn off my remaining US Air miles and got to fly a lot of old SQ 772s, NH's new 773s, and in Feb. I have an AC 77L with the business suite scheduled. The new Air Canada 777s are the only ones with personal air vents. NH has seven across in business, but great service.
Does CO get an extra slot at NRT if it replaces 2 daily 738 flights with a single 777?
Remember the old days when they had all those DC10's in GUM. The DC10 with the pub lounge flew GUM-SPN-HKG-GUM, and other routes. The DC10-30s to HNL had a real first class cabin.
Oct 6, 2008 | 10:09 am
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Of *A hubs in Europe/ME, not presently not served by CO (from either EWR or IAH), which do you think have the highest probability of being served? My guesses, in order of priority, would be:
1. IST
2. WAW
3. VIE
4. CAI
1. IST
2. WAW
3. VIE
4. CAI
Oct 6, 2008 | 10:58 am
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I'd put WAW above IST. IST gets connections to the middle east, I guess, but I think that WAW is more likely.
Oct 6, 2008 | 11:28 am
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At the August Q&A in Las Vegas, there was a complaint about the lack of connections to the Middle East servicing the oil industry in Texas once CO leaves the alliance with AF & KLM. So CAI and IST may have some appeal.
Oct 6, 2008 | 11:46 am
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LH provides some of that connectivity. Not a ton, but a pretty decent subset. And TK operates to NYC, though CO has pulled out of JFK.
Oct 6, 2008 | 11:53 am
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I'm not betting on a lot of expansion, especially with a probably 5-10% reduction in US consumer spending over the next year.
Oct 6, 2008 | 12:04 pm
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From what I recall, UA did park a bunch of these post 9/11. So, i'm sure there are 777s parked out there somewhere.
Oct 6, 2008 | 12:08 pm
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777 <===> 764
Hello everyone:
I read a company memo that said the older 777s for Guam would free up the 767-400s that are currently there for use in Europe. Also, they are probably looking to put lie-flats on the 767 fleet with the new video system as well.
I read a company memo that said the older 777s for Guam would free up the 767-400s that are currently there for use in Europe. Also, they are probably looking to put lie-flats on the 767 fleet with the new video system as well.
Oct 6, 2008 | 12:13 pm
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While the consumer spending is bound to drop in the immediate future (in fact, it's already dropping, judging by the September load numbers), I would expect that the impending US military build-up in GUM is going to increase demand, both passengers and cargo, on the routes between Micronesia, mainland, and Japan - from where a lot of that buildup is shifting.
Oct 6, 2008 | 12:43 pm
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I was talking with a friend at Boeing who works on the commercial side and he said that he had also heard such a rumor(or maybe more considering the post from NewarkFlyer).
T7s are not a huge shock as they are fairly economical to operatre and allows the 764s to fly TATL from either IAH or EWR. Many Asian airlines operate T7s in the South Pacific and from a density standpoint, they are a nice fit.
Dan
T7s are not a huge shock as they are fairly economical to operatre and allows the 764s to fly TATL from either IAH or EWR. Many Asian airlines operate T7s in the South Pacific and from a density standpoint, they are a nice fit.
Dan
Oct 6, 2008 | 1:45 pm
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It would be nice to see some of the following:
GUM-PVG/PEK
GUM-BKK
GUM-SIN
Edited to add: EWR-PEK = 6,300 miles
EWR-IAH-GUM-PEK (the scenic route) = 11,400 miles. I can just feel the mileage runs!
GUM-PVG/PEK
GUM-BKK
GUM-SIN
Edited to add: EWR-PEK = 6,300 miles
EWR-IAH-GUM-PEK (the scenic route) = 11,400 miles. I can just feel the mileage runs!
Last edited by Vulcan; Oct 6, 2008 at 1:57 pm