recieved fancy invitation today for a $375 a year-"Pres Co/Chase
#91
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The inside of the package has a simplified route map printed on it. I shows many routes out of EWR and IAH but only 5 routes out of CLE. Like I said, it's a very simplified route map made to look nice more than have any sort of accuracy to the point there isn't even a flight from EWR to IAH.
#92
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 31
If you're one who typically comes up a bit short of EQM's for status, then I agree that this card could be very useful. Indeed, the opportunity to earn a modest number of EQM's is the most distinctive feature of the card and this feature would be most beneficial to those who often fall a bit short at the end of the year of their desired elite tier. But for those who easily quality for elite status, or aren't even close, the card is less appealing.
#93
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: San Diego, CA
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So, riddle me this Batman, how would one go about getting in the PC club when not flying?
#94
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Location: Between AUS, EWR, and YTO In a little twisty maze of airline seats, all alike.. but I wanna go home with the armadillo
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- Buy a refundable ticket.
- Go to the club on your way to the flight.
- Change your mind and ask to be de-boarded (so CO can sell the seat to someone else)
- Refund the ticket.
#95
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: KAUS
Programs: UA MM
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I Like Continental as an airline. And I'm coming up short this year by about 6000 miles and I'm bummed about it, but there is no way I would put the $75,000 of spend on this card needed to get back to Elite, because then I would have another 75000 CO Miles to add to the 300,000 miles I can never use. This card was a real disappointing offer.
The paranoid part of me is a little worried by the new class of miles that is debuting here. Are more differences going to be drawn between these and the "classic" miles we all have in our accounts? For example, are the far more expensive "flex" miles going to find a "flex" awards twin that is subject to looser capacity controls? Just an example. In other words, are "flex" miles ultimately going to devalue our already "inflation"-prone "classic" miles?
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Last edited by perezoso; Dec 13, 2006 at 5:57 pm
#97
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: SWUSA / AA PLAT, SPG PLAT, AMEX CENTURION, HHONORS Diamond
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Originally Posted by TheMan View Post
...the card... dilutes the entire elite program
To TheMan -
don't get too worked up...this card is a dud before its launched; I don't know a lot about butt in seat flying, but I do know a thing or two about credit card affinity programs and what works, and what does not. This is as still-born as Diner's Club Montage a couple of years ago...fancy announcement/invitation packaging...I looked it (the Montage) and predicted it would fail within five minutes of reviewing the affinity perks. Too bad it took Citibank a couple of years to figure out what I knew in ten min (ok, five min), but then that's why they pay those Wharton grads the big bucks and avoid every soliciting input from their 6 and 7-figure/annum affinity customers. Their loss.
Ditto for this one - it will never pass muster w/ any aggressive chargers that I know, or anyone that can do simple math to figure out the true hidden costs vis a vis perk package.
To really burden this card, its coming from Chase, which is, as so many have pointed out, the most greedy of the major banks, and then it rides on the coattails of the worst affinity program around (with respect to award availability) - Nonepass, the gutless wonder of affinity programs, where one can EARN the miles but DON'T PLAN ON USING THEM unless one is ok w/ the DOUBLE MILE AWARDS.
As for me ? My Continental/Chase card sits on a shelf collecting dust...and only when Chase, in those rare promotions, offers double miles, does this card get dusted off and used.
Doubtful there will be much dilution that you fear so much.
...the card... dilutes the entire elite program
To TheMan -
don't get too worked up...this card is a dud before its launched; I don't know a lot about butt in seat flying, but I do know a thing or two about credit card affinity programs and what works, and what does not. This is as still-born as Diner's Club Montage a couple of years ago...fancy announcement/invitation packaging...I looked it (the Montage) and predicted it would fail within five minutes of reviewing the affinity perks. Too bad it took Citibank a couple of years to figure out what I knew in ten min (ok, five min), but then that's why they pay those Wharton grads the big bucks and avoid every soliciting input from their 6 and 7-figure/annum affinity customers. Their loss.
Ditto for this one - it will never pass muster w/ any aggressive chargers that I know, or anyone that can do simple math to figure out the true hidden costs vis a vis perk package.
To really burden this card, its coming from Chase, which is, as so many have pointed out, the most greedy of the major banks, and then it rides on the coattails of the worst affinity program around (with respect to award availability) - Nonepass, the gutless wonder of affinity programs, where one can EARN the miles but DON'T PLAN ON USING THEM unless one is ok w/ the DOUBLE MILE AWARDS.
As for me ? My Continental/Chase card sits on a shelf collecting dust...and only when Chase, in those rare promotions, offers double miles, does this card get dusted off and used.
Doubtful there will be much dilution that you fear so much.
Last edited by ILUVCITIBANK; Dec 12, 2006 at 8:47 pm
#98
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: CLE
Programs: UA GS+LT UC, AA EXP+LT PLT, Fairmont LT PLT, Marriott PLT, Hilton DIA, Hyatt Glob, Avis CHM
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PC members are (or at least were, as of July) permitted throught security to access clubs when not flying. See the thread here.
#99
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Houston
Programs: UA: MM
Posts: 844
The actual text in the letter...
I got the offer today and the letter says:
"We're honored to have you as a Platinum OnePass Elite member. We would also like to thank you for being a Presidents Club member and for using your Continential Airlines MasterCard."
I'm curious how (or if) the personalization was on other offers. Did everyone get the same level of detail? For example, if you are just a PL, did your letter say that? What about P-Club (only, non-elite) folks?
FWIW
DLM
"We're honored to have you as a Platinum OnePass Elite member. We would also like to thank you for being a Presidents Club member and for using your Continential Airlines MasterCard."
I'm curious how (or if) the personalization was on other offers. Did everyone get the same level of detail? For example, if you are just a PL, did your letter say that? What about P-Club (only, non-elite) folks?
FWIW
DLM
#100
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: San Diego, CA
Programs: Marriott PP...Southwest A+ CP
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PC members are (or at least were, as of July) permitted throught security to access clubs when not flying. See the thread here.
#101
Join Date: Oct 2004
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The PC is a good study spot. Free booze, no family to distract and whenever you need a break, you can just wander around, watch the planes and catch lunch at Pappadeux's (sp). Makes for a good study day IMHO... in fact, maybe that's what I'll do tomorrow for LSAT class...
#102
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The PC is a good study spot. Free booze, no family to distract and whenever you need a break, you can just wander around, watch the planes and catch lunch at Pappadeux's (sp). Makes for a good study day IMHO... in fact, maybe that's what I'll do tomorrow for LSAT class...
#103
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Join Date: Sep 2002
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Mine made reference to my status and the fact that I have a Chase MC (though it is now the free one).
#104
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Columbus OH
Programs: DL Diamond, CO Gold, US Silver, Natl Exec, Hertz #1, Avis Preferred, Elite w/ All US Hotel Programs
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#105
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Houston, TX
Programs: CO Gold, SPG Gold, AMX Plat
Posts: 108
Higher status based on spend would be nice, but certainly not a "gotta have" for me.
As I compare this to my Amex plat, I had to say "no" to this because frankly Amex provides virtually the same benefits and more for the same (or similar) price, which makes this card of limited value to me.