New quest... [To avoid RJs]
Sep 20, 2006, 1:56 pm
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Originally Posted by CO 1E
I think the AVROs are retired now, or will be retired shortly.
Sep 20, 2006, 2:01 pm
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They are certainly not yet gone, but they will be soon. NW is skimping on the cleaning budget by the smell of the ARJs, though, which suggests they have to be offloading them soon before they become a health hazard.
I seem to remember that early 2007 was the end for NW's ARJs?
Edited to add: Wikipedia (link) says that all ARJ flying is now out of MSP and DTW, not MEM, and MSP flights will cease 10/31/06, with DTW flights ceasing either 12/15/06 or 12/31/06 (different dates quoted in different places in the article). The ARJs are being sold to a European carrier, IIRC.
I seem to remember that early 2007 was the end for NW's ARJs?
Edited to add: Wikipedia (link) says that all ARJ flying is now out of MSP and DTW, not MEM, and MSP flights will cease 10/31/06, with DTW flights ceasing either 12/15/06 or 12/31/06 (different dates quoted in different places in the article). The ARJs are being sold to a European carrier, IIRC.
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Sep 20, 2006, 11:43 pm
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On most airlines, I have to fly RJs out of and into CMH to catch connecting flights. I don't mind it so much because it takes less time to board and deplane. Everytime I fly, one segment in a one way trip is usually an RJ.
RJs are hard to avoid unless I fly Southwest (which I don't)
RJs are hard to avoid unless I fly Southwest (which I don't)
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Sep 21, 2006, 10:24 am
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Originally Posted by I Love Middle Seats
I've flown on RJs 291 times this year.
26 3:00-3:59
2 4hrs and more
26 3:00-3:59
2 4hrs and more
And isn't 4 hours of flight time right at the limit of the 145's range?
Sep 27, 2006, 8:41 am
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Originally Posted by TWA Fan 1
I'm just curious which RJ flights are this long?
And isn't 4 hours of flight time right at the limit of the 145's range?
And isn't 4 hours of flight time right at the limit of the 145's range?
4:05 YYZ-IAH
3:42 YYZ-EWR (not a typo)
Sep 27, 2006, 8:47 am
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Originally Posted by I Love Middle Seats
Block time, including time sitting on the ground during delays.
4:05 YYZ-IAH
3:42 YYZ-EWR (not a typo)
4:05 YYZ-IAH
3:42 YYZ-EWR (not a typo)
AA dropped almost all the mainline at STL, and it was possible to fly transcon on AA, through STL, on RJ's the entire trip.
Although there was a stopover, this meant close to 7 hours in an RJ.
Things have improved slightly since those drak days although precious few of the terrific hard-working professionals of TWA have ever seen another's day work since with AA.
Sep 27, 2006, 8:55 am
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Originally Posted by TWA Fan 1
Got you. It reminds me a little bit of what happened to TWA's former hub at STL after the takeover (pillage) of TWA by AA.
AA dropped almost all the mainline at STL, and it was possible to fly transcon on AA, through STL, on RJ's the entire trip.
Although there was a stopover, this meant close to 7 hours in an RJ.
Things have improved slightly since those drak days although precious few of the terrific hard-working professionals of TWA have ever seen another's day work since with AA.
AA dropped almost all the mainline at STL, and it was possible to fly transcon on AA, through STL, on RJ's the entire trip.
Although there was a stopover, this meant close to 7 hours in an RJ.
Things have improved slightly since those drak days although precious few of the terrific hard-working professionals of TWA have ever seen another's day work since with AA.
Sep 27, 2006, 9:22 am
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Originally Posted by AEpilot76
There is no TSA or CHQ rj that can make it from the west coast to stl without being weight restricted to about 10 people (excluding go jets). From where on the west coast were they flying? The furthest they go I thought was DEN or ABQ
Here's an example of EWR-DEN via STL:
AMERICAN AIRLINES OPERATED BY AMERICAN CONNECTION/CHAUTAUQUA 5307 EWR
Newark 09/28/2006
10:45 AM STL
St Louis 09/28/2006
12:30 PM ERD Economy
View Seats 873 N/A
AMERICAN AIRLINES OPERATED BY AMERICAN CONNECTION/TRANS STATES 5479 STL
St Louis 09/28/2006
01:55 PM DEN
Denver 09/28/2006
03:25 PM ER4 Economy
View Seats 781 N/A
6 hr
40 min
Sep 27, 2006, 10:02 am
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Originally Posted by TWA Fan 1
And if you have to fly an NW RJ, how about the Avro-85, with its spacious cabin, and 16 FC seats? It's the quietest plane in the sky and it has the unique feature of having no reverse thrusters on its engines.
BTW: Didn't I see a ERJ flight this Summer IAH-NAS that approached 3:45? It doesn't seem to come up this winter, so maybe there were too many complaints about it....I can't imagine starting/ending a vacatgion with such a long RJ flight. That being said, I have said many times that I prefer an A side seat in a RJ to almost any seat in Y on a 73x. Of course, almost all of my flights are in Texas, so they are 1:20 at most...
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Sep 27, 2006, 11:09 am
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Originally Posted by FlyerInCmh
On most airlines, I have to fly RJs out of and into CMH to catch connecting flights. I don't mind it so much because it takes less time to board and deplane. Everytime I fly, one segment in a one way trip is usually an RJ.
RJs are hard to avoid unless I fly Southwest (which I don't)
RJs are hard to avoid unless I fly Southwest (which I don't)
Or Delta to ATL on an MD88 or 737, or LAX on a 737
Or United to ORD on a 737
You really DONT need to be on an RJ if you don't want to from CMH =)
Sep 29, 2006, 10:56 pm
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Originally Posted by myk
Or NWA with mostly DC9 and Airbus 320s.... to all 3 hubs
Or Delta to ATL on an MD88 or 737, or LAX on a 737
Or United to ORD on a 737
You really DONT need to be on an RJ if you don't want to from CMH =)
Or Delta to ATL on an MD88 or 737, or LAX on a 737
Or United to ORD on a 737
You really DONT need to be on an RJ if you don't want to from CMH =)
Sep 30, 2006, 7:06 am
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In 2005 I flew 31 segments on CO metal, of which 26 were ERJs.... 
Nov 30, 2006, 4:37 pm
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And then one CO 735 sector was downgauged to RJ. I had carefully concocted the itin to avoid this in the first instance, but there's not much to be done now. CO CSR: "Reason for rebooking RQ, don't like RJ...hmmm. Not in manual, no can do.." Or can you?
So far, of the approx. 75k BIS miles I have booked for the first half of '07, I have kept the toothpaste tube torture to four segs. But I don't see how I can avoid at least one more during the second half of the year.
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Nov 30, 2006, 5:28 pm
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I don't mind the RJR's, I usually fly them from EWR-RIC..One thing I don't miss is the Prop planes used from FLL/PBI-Nassau..Do they still use them? Or are they using RJR's? Haven't been on those in awhile...
Boy those were an adventure on a stormy day...
Boy those were an adventure on a stormy day...
Nov 30, 2006, 7:09 pm
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I fly IAH-OMA about every month and take the one flight a day that's a 737 - which puts me in at 11:10 p.m. and leaves at 7:40 a.m. I then have a lovely three hour drive, so it's insanity at best, but it still beats a RJ.