Continental really needs to increase transparency of the upgrade process
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Originally Posted by puddy
The process is transparent... it's based on Elite level and Fare bucket. What fare were you on?
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Originally Posted by CO 1E
The secret to eliminating upgrade anxiety, as I've already shared on other threads, is never to ask your place on the upgrade list, and never ask a CSR what your chances are irrespective of your place on the list. ... My advice is never to ask - just sit back, relax, go to the gate a few minutes before boarding, and hope for a battlefield. Why give yourself the anxiety of witnessing yourself drop on the upgrade list as more full Y's or misconnects get added to the list? The GA will find you if you've been upgraded.
Now, because I never ask, it's quite possible I might have been hanging out the in the Presidents Club until 30 minutes before departure, and missed a battlefield upgrade when I wasn't at the gate to pick it up. But having witnessed the process in action many times, I've always seen the gate agents hold the boarding passes for those they've upgraded at the gate until they find the passenger, which sometimes is as the upgraded passenger is walking down the blue carpet to get on the plane. If an over zealous gate agent has ever cancelled an upgrade of mine because I didn't immediately pick it up, I would never know. I'd be disappointed if I found out later this had happened, but hey, what can you do. Sometimes mistakes happen, but it's not worth getting all upset over it after the fact.
The system has worked well for me, and I really could care less if CO puts up monitors like DL has at their hubs with the upgrade lists. And if I miss an upgrade, I'll sit in my exit row seat and still be reasonably comfortable, and I'll still get where I'm going at the same time I would have if I'd been sitting up front. I may be a little disappointed for a few minutes, but at the end of the day, if I got where I was wanting to go safe and sound, I'm happy.
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I've stopped flying CO altogether, but am still PLAT and am less than 1000 miles away from renewing my PLAT status for 2007. I fly NW (25 of 25 for UG) and DL (bought 'A' fares instead of on CO) and AF (bought three 'D' fares for travel this fall) and VS (bought two UC fares for travel this fall). All of it will credit to my CO account, but none of my $$ goes to CO. I know they are full and don't miss my business, but I derive some pleasure out of knowing that I connect just the same (through DTW, or ATL), get an UG and bring my DVD player for inflight movies and watch what I want. Heck, I even let my PC membership expire and bought a WC membership. Of course, NW could be out of business in a few weeks, but we shall see.
As an aside, I had the opportunity to fly UA last week....LAX-BWI (am not elite). I was booked on a 'W' fare and called three days before my flight and used 15,000 miles to UG to first class. It was available. Unbelievable service and pretty comfortable first class, plus that Econ + is a nice back-up. I'm not wondering if I never get UG on CO at as a PLAT, if it's not worth the transition to UA (and Star Alliance) and use instruments and earned upgrades that are usually available?
As an aside, I had the opportunity to fly UA last week....LAX-BWI (am not elite). I was booked on a 'W' fare and called three days before my flight and used 15,000 miles to UG to first class. It was available. Unbelievable service and pretty comfortable first class, plus that Econ + is a nice back-up. I'm not wondering if I never get UG on CO at as a PLAT, if it's not worth the transition to UA (and Star Alliance) and use instruments and earned upgrades that are usually available?
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if it's not worth the transition to UA (and Star Alliance) and use instruments and earned upgrades that are usually available?>>
UA Star Alliance is trash. They are power hungry scam artists of the highest order. This is typical at check in "Oh, Mr ___, the plane is full but I think we can get you on with your reservation" and her very next sentence was: "Would you like to upgrade to a seat with with 5 more inches of legroom for $75"??? I told her no, but I feel totally honored that I have a ticket and will be allowed to board, moron"
UA Star Alliance is trash. They are power hungry scam artists of the highest order. This is typical at check in "Oh, Mr ___, the plane is full but I think we can get you on with your reservation" and her very next sentence was: "Would you like to upgrade to a seat with with 5 more inches of legroom for $75"??? I told her no, but I feel totally honored that I have a ticket and will be allowed to board, moron"
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Originally Posted by Catbert10
It's not the seat, it's the process. I've seen plenty of flights recently where there was inventory in the R bucket, but the EUA process didn't run. I've lost an upgrade because I was in the restroom and the GA waited 2 minutes for a response. I've lost an upgrade because I was in the PC when the GA called the upgrade 45 minutes before the flight (the flight was delayed). I've lost an upgrade because there was a gate change, I was at the new gate (I got the gate change news from the PC staff), and the GA called out the upgrades at the old gate before coming over to the new gate. I have had a number of occasions when I mysteriously dropped off the upgrade list entirely.
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I don't ask about being upgraded, the anxiety is just too much. But what gets me going are the routes which they won't release any upgrades to FC until seconds before the plane takes off. I've experienced the EWR to Orange Co, CA several times. I even upgraded with miles and was not allowed to get my ticket and was in fact never given my FC seat. They sold it from under me and I had to call several times to get my mileage back and no excuse or apology.
The only real value FC has for me is the ability to work and open my laptop. Coach is just not a working environment 80% of the time. When the person in front of you lowers their seat your laptop is worthless.
I'm a plat 10 years + and have had enough this year. Can't wait to start flying anyone else and especially Jet Blue!
The only real value FC has for me is the ability to work and open my laptop. Coach is just not a working environment 80% of the time. When the person in front of you lowers their seat your laptop is worthless.
I'm a plat 10 years + and have had enough this year. Can't wait to start flying anyone else and especially Jet Blue!
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Originally Posted by Ed R
The only real value FC has for me is the ability to work and open my laptop. Coach is just not a working environment 80% of the time. When the person in front of you lowers their seat your laptop is worthless.
I'm a plat 10 years + and have had enough this year. Can't wait to start flying anyone else and especially Jet Blue!
I'm a plat 10 years + and have had enough this year. Can't wait to start flying anyone else and especially Jet Blue!
5+inch of extra leg room and you can comfortably open up your
computer and work. I find it less cramped than a CO F.
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Originally Posted by Ed R
I'm a plat 10 years + and have had enough this year. Can't wait to start flying anyone else and especially Jet Blue!
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Originally Posted by Ed R
I don't ask about being upgraded, the anxiety is just too much. But what gets me going are the routes which they won't release any upgrades to FC until seconds before the plane takes off. I've experienced the EWR to Orange Co, CA several times. I even upgraded with miles and was not allowed to get my ticket and was in fact never given my FC seat. They sold it from under me and I had to call several times to get my mileage back and no excuse or apology.
The only real value FC has for me is the ability to work and open my laptop. Coach is just not a working environment 80% of the time. When the person in front of you lowers their seat your laptop is worthless.
I'm a plat 10 years + and have had enough this year. Can't wait to start flying anyone else and especially Jet Blue!
The only real value FC has for me is the ability to work and open my laptop. Coach is just not a working environment 80% of the time. When the person in front of you lowers their seat your laptop is worthless.
I'm a plat 10 years + and have had enough this year. Can't wait to start flying anyone else and especially Jet Blue!
Could not be happier.
Every seat is comfortable and spacious and the fares are always affordable. Have logged over 65,000 mile on B6 since them. Haven't had a single complaint about anyone of those flights.
So much better than the anxiety-inducing game of CO upgrades, which, as you have written, have become very stingy (I'm personally 1 for 26 as CO OP Gold).
In July took my family to Disneyland on jetBlue TrueBlue frequent flyer tickets; despite what I had heard, I had no trouble booking four ff tickets on our first choice itinerary. And the DirecTV is wonderful for anyone who travels with young children.
Also, no comparison with booking ff tickets on CO, which requires much effort to find any availability.
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I'd love to know why the heck I haven't been upgraded as a Platinum on a H fare on my DCA-IAH flight tomorrow.
Honestly, if I don't get upgraded because all the first class seats are allocated to passengers who buy the seat or purchased a ticket in a higher fare bucket, I am comfortable with that. But situations like mine make me wonder.
More transparency is always a good thing. At a minimum, CO (and NW) should emulate DL's system of displaying upgrade and standby priority on the monitors at the gates.
Honestly, if I don't get upgraded because all the first class seats are allocated to passengers who buy the seat or purchased a ticket in a higher fare bucket, I am comfortable with that. But situations like mine make me wonder.
More transparency is always a good thing. At a minimum, CO (and NW) should emulate DL's system of displaying upgrade and standby priority on the monitors at the gates.
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Originally Posted by SAT Lawyer
I'd love to know why the heck I haven't been upgraded as a Platinum on a H fare on my DCA-IAH flight tomorrow.
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Originally Posted by Catbert10
I've lost an upgrade because I was in the restroom and the GA waited 2 minutes for a response. I've lost an upgrade because I was in the PC when the GA called the upgrade 45 minutes before the flight (the flight was delayed). I've lost an upgrade because there was a gate change, I was at the new gate (I got the gate change news from the PC staff), and the GA called out the upgrades at the old gate before coming over to the new gate.
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For me it's like investing: if you find it emotional, don't do it. If you're going to get emotional as you watch your name descend on the list, don't ask. CO is perfectly transparent about the list: the more you pay, the higher up the list you go.
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Originally Posted by SAT Lawyer
I'd love to know why the heck I haven't been upgraded as a Platinum on a H fare on my DCA-IAH flight tomorrow.
Honestly, if I don't get upgraded because all the first class seats are allocated to passengers who buy the seat or purchased a ticket in a higher fare bucket, I am comfortable with that. But situations like mine make me wonder.
Honestly, if I don't get upgraded because all the first class seats are allocated to passengers who buy the seat or purchased a ticket in a higher fare bucket, I am comfortable with that. But situations like mine make me wonder.
With respect to what others have said regarding GA's giving away their battlefield upgrades when the passengers weren't at the gate to claim them, I wonder what CO's policy is with respect to the amount of discretion GA's have in processing upgrades? It would make sense if the policy were to wait until boarding is nearly complete and if the original upgraded passenger still hasn't arrived, to battlefield the next person on the list rather than just upgrade someone else if the original passenger is not at the gate the first time his/her name is called. GA's should not be permitted to simply call off names and skip passengers who happen not to be at the gate at the time their name is called.
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I think its fine the way it is, in fact I scored a RARE companion upgrade on my EWR-LAS flight this past Thursday.

