Manual EUA
Nov 27, 2003 | 10:59 am
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Manual EUA
I've heard everyones story about being told that upgrades can only be done by computer but I've had an enlightening experience. I am on a flight to ORD on Monday and today is Thursday, 4 days away. I didn't clear on my Plat status on Wednesday. Looked online to see if there were F class seats and there was one. Called, asked about it and she did a manual upgrade for me. Even looked on-line and the seat was changed to F from V. Was this an error or an extremely helpful person?
Nov 27, 2003 | 11:08 am
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Consider yourself lucky! This is definitely NOT the norm.
Nov 27, 2003 | 11:19 am
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Guess Gordo will need to make room for one more at the Re-education Camps. 
Nov 27, 2003 | 12:44 pm
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I recently had the same problem, and the res agent I spoke to was able to upgrade me as well. While she was completing the upgrade, she commented to me that some of the restrictions regarding OP had changed. I inquired further about what she meant, and she stated that they were now allowed to do manual upgrades "to be in line with NW" as well as the recreation of an elite desk in the future. I asked about the possible date of an actual elite desk, but she said that she wasn't allowed to share that information. Sounds promising...maybe Gordo realized how much he destroyed OnePass.
Nov 27, 2003 | 9:01 pm
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Gordo ain't realized nuthin'! He's too engrossed in bein' the business media's darling when he ain't chasin' pussy ridin' his harley.
Maybe it's deja vu all over again, just like in the last days of CEO Robert Ferguson, when a lot of CO's employees realized that their job security depended on listening to the customers more then to the executives.
Maybe it's deja vu all over again, just like in the last days of CEO Robert Ferguson, when a lot of CO's employees realized that their job security depended on listening to the customers more then to the executives.
Nov 27, 2003 | 10:09 pm
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Does this mean that NW agents can now upgrade WP members on CO metal if you see F availability within you 5/3/1 time slots?
Or have they always had that capability and only CO agents were the ones with their hands tied?
Or have they always had that capability and only CO agents were the ones with their hands tied?
Nov 28, 2003 | 12:29 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by RobOnLI:
Does this mean that NW agents can now upgrade WP members on CO metal if you see F availability within you 5/3/1 time slots?
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Does this mean that NW agents can now upgrade WP members on CO metal if you see F availability within you 5/3/1 time slots?
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Admittedly, as a Plat, it's not terribly important...but as a Silver, it's gotta be super useful.
Steve
Nov 29, 2003 | 1:38 pm
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Of course, after 1/1, this whole issue is moot, since CO is going to "R" in place of F as the upgrade bucket and R is hidden.
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Nov 29, 2003 | 1:58 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Vulcan:
Of course, after 1/1, this whole issue is moot, since CO is going to "R" in place of F as the upgrade bucket and R is hidden.
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Of course, after 1/1, this whole issue is moot, since CO is going to "R" in place of F as the upgrade bucket and R is hidden.
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I wonder if this will increase the number of conspiracy theories of EUA manipulation or reduce it...
Nov 29, 2003 | 2:25 pm
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Methinks they intend to hide their obvious manipulation of how EUA works (or doesn't) and how seats are allocated. With the F bucket visible to all it's easier to see what is going on. Once upgrades come from the R bucket we won't be able to tell. But we will still be able to call and request a manual upgrade...
Nov 29, 2003 | 5:17 pm
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"But we will still be able to call and request a manual upgrade"
But based on what information?
I fear that CO is rapidly moving to a revenue based FF program. The CO * designation may well be another unannounced factor in determining who gets upgrades.
At the rate we are going pretty much the whole program will be a secret
But based on what information?
I fear that CO is rapidly moving to a revenue based FF program. The CO * designation may well be another unannounced factor in determining who gets upgrades.
At the rate we are going pretty much the whole program will be a secret
Nov 29, 2003 | 5:43 pm
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Based on the info above. Nothing but the empirical evidence above says they'll actually give you a manual upgrade.
Nov 29, 2003 | 6:08 pm
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Oops.Sorry. I meant how would you know after 1/1 if any 'F" seats were available since R is hidden?
Nov 29, 2003 | 7:51 pm
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You won't know. I guess you'll just have to call within the windiw if you aren't EUAd and ask. So much for saving CO money by not dealing with phone calls. Hear that, Gordo?
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Nov 29, 2003 | 8:44 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Vulcan:
Of course, after 1/1, this whole issue is moot, since CO is going to "R" in place of F as the upgrade bucket and R is hidden.
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Of course, after 1/1, this whole issue is moot, since CO is going to "R" in place of F as the upgrade bucket and R is hidden.
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