Vulcan,

Not only do they show it, the info is "dead-on" accurate. Knowledge is power and this tool has helped in my decision making and thus saved me from coach.

I don't not know how KVS get's the R bucket since I use Amadeus Professional GDS in my office on which R is hidden but KVS does show it in the *AUA version.

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I am not questioning the ability to limit to a specific carrier; I am questioning the rationale in what flights/carriers are displayed. Does anyone know the scheme as to, in this example, what flights are to be displayed?

I find it very very strange that this city pair yields nothing but UA/US with a single DL and FL thrown in. Why a single DL, what with their hourly PHl-ATL service and probably the same on to JAX?

On the surface, something doesn't look rigtht and I suspect a bias. Perhaps there are other constricting criteria, maybe something silly like max 60 min. layover or something like that, I don't know. But on the surface, it does not look like a fair representation of flights.

Here's the pecking order on intl BF buckets:

E: General standard mileage awards

F: Platinum standard mileage awards

P: Easy pass Mileage awards

R: All mileage cash-in awards on revenue tix.

Of course, there is no Intl EUA.

I don't believe there is any significant carrier bias in the Amadeus results, as they look very similar to the results from other GDS systems (e.g. Apollo). It may appear that there is an unfair bias toward US in these results, but that is because:

(a) US is the only carrier that has non-stop flights on this route, so its flights are listed first (taking 7 out of the 20 spots);
(b) There is no way to limit results to a specific carrier in Amadeus, so only 20 out of possible, say, 1000 combinations are shown.

[KVS Availability Tool - Amadeus: AUA]
[KVS Availability Tool - Apollo: ITN/CWT/US-CA]

The first post has been updated to reflect the new CO booking classes, and new NWAWP method that provides access to the CO award/upgrade classes.

See also: http://www.FlyerTalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=603988

Wow. Thank you sooo much. You continually to amaze me in bringing this valuable information to us. The ability to now see CO "F" is invaluable to me in planning trips. For instance, on a trip I have this Wednesday where I have not cleared the upgrade list, I can see that F=2.

You're welcome!

I knew something had to be done when I started receiving PMs from CO users suffering from the R-Class Withdrawal Syndrome :).

I just started to try to use the KVS tool and wondered if the tool is broken or the CO WWW site broken (I know I bet its the CO Site).

I am trying to book a CLE-NRT flight for 10/21/06 returning on 10/27/06.

Just looking at the departure the CO site shows a connection through EWR but the KVS tool (checked multiple methods) never shows this as an option, it routes me on an ERJ through ORD. CO and Expedia also show many seats available on the EWR route....Did I do something wrong using the KVS tool or should I tend to beleive the CO WWW site problems are to blame.

Of course, there is no Intl EUA.[/QUOTE]


They dont advertise them but if its a full flight they do do them...3 times this summer I have been EUA at the gate for Intl flights, all because they were overbooked....once to Beijing....how sweet that was.

Thanks CO!

I just tried it using Apollo and the EWR route does show-up. Have you entered "CO" in the [Airline:] field? Is the [Time:] field set to "(Any)"?

BTW, what did you mean by "multiple methods" (there is only 1 Method in the Lite version) :confused:.

[KVS Availability Tool 2.4.0/Platinum - Apollo: ITN/US-TNT]
[KVS Availability Tool 2.4.0/Platinum - Apollo: ITN/US-TNT]

good question...has this been answered recently?

thanks for all the info!

If you are unable to retreive your CO PNR using Worldspan, take a look at KVS Tool FAQ Part 3 (link below):

Certainly there are International EUAs
 

Not Op-ups, but EUAs. There are international EUA's. However, only for certain routes (mostly Latin America). I've gotten EUA's on international segments to SJO and LIM, plus GUM-HKG. Think any 737 or 757 for certain routes. :)

which fare bucket is used for sky team/flying blue
 

if i'm using flying blue mileage to book on CO which fis the relevant fare bucket for both econ and biz. is it G and R, or something else.

Is there a way to only look up F inventory without getting the "No Availability" for standard award buckets?