KVS Tool and F bucket
Sep 20, 2006, 10:25 am
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KVS Tool and F bucket
Does anyone know if the KVS tool will show the new F bucket?
Sep 20, 2006, 11:53 am
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Not presently. This is a big problem. Being able to see the old "R" bucket was a big help in planning.
Sep 20, 2006, 12:05 pm
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While KVS showed the R bucket - it did not find it to always be upto date.
Another way is to go to co.com and start a booking process and check the box for mileage upgrade. It comes out of the same bucket (used to be R now F). If you could do a mileage upgrade just before EUA time then upgrades will be made. But the F bucket is very dynamic and can change through out the day. But if mileage upgrade is available say 6 to 7pm at night - then there is a could chance EUA will dip into that bucket.
Another way is to go to co.com and start a booking process and check the box for mileage upgrade. It comes out of the same bucket (used to be R now F). If you could do a mileage upgrade just before EUA time then upgrades will be made. But the F bucket is very dynamic and can change through out the day. But if mileage upgrade is available say 6 to 7pm at night - then there is a could chance EUA will dip into that bucket.
Sep 20, 2006, 12:32 pm
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Originally Posted by cova
While KVS showed the R bucket - it did not find it to always be upto date.
Another way is to go to co.com and start a booking process and check the box for mileage upgrade. It comes out of the same bucket (used to be R now F). If you could do a mileage upgrade just before EUA time then upgrades will be made. But the F bucket is very dynamic and can change through out the day. But if mileage upgrade is available say 6 to 7pm at night - then there is a could chance EUA will dip into that bucket.
Another way is to go to co.com and start a booking process and check the box for mileage upgrade. It comes out of the same bucket (used to be R now F). If you could do a mileage upgrade just before EUA time then upgrades will be made. But the F bucket is very dynamic and can change through out the day. But if mileage upgrade is available say 6 to 7pm at night - then there is a could chance EUA will dip into that bucket.
Having KVS made it easier to monitor and spot these anomalies.
Sep 20, 2006, 1:44 pm
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My experience is that using miles for upgrades many times opens up say a week or two before (before the 5-6 day Plat EUA) for example on a IAH-DCA flight. Then by EUA time the R (now F) class goes away.
If you are Elite at any level, if flight is not sold out - mileage upgrades are more easily had at about a week.
I am referring to EUA upgrades and ways to check whether one will occur.
If you are Elite at any level, if flight is not sold out - mileage upgrades are more easily had at about a week.
I am referring to EUA upgrades and ways to check whether one will occur.
Last edited by cova; Sep 20, 2006 at 2:40 pm
Sep 20, 2006, 2:28 pm
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Originally Posted by Vulcan
The more likely scenario is that CO dumps the miles into the F bucket just prior to EUA running. CO tries to make this process as quick as possible
Sep 20, 2006, 2:39 pm
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Sep 22, 2006, 1:39 pm
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Hi,
What is the KVS tool exactly? Is there a fee to use this tool? I know you used to be able to use a site to see which fare classes were available but I think that site is down currently (or doesn't have Continental flights?).
What is the KVS tool exactly? Is there a fee to use this tool? I know you used to be able to use a site to see which fare classes were available but I think that site is down currently (or doesn't have Continental flights?).
Sep 22, 2006, 2:14 pm
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CO F Class
Originally Posted by hockey7711
Does anyone know if the KVS tool will show the new F bucket?
Sep 22, 2006, 3:22 pm
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Originally Posted by KVS
The new CO F class is now available in the Platinum version of the KVS Tool: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showt...46#post6421546
Thanks, KVS.
One question/request.
I downloaded new version, and it worked fine when award seats are available, and all fare class displayed. But if no seat available, warning message with "Datasource Error: No award seat is available for the date you selected" pops up - then no information displayed - stays blank. Is this by design ? I'd rather like to see all class fare displayed with award seat showing 0, like F0 E0. Can you make this change in future release?
Sep 22, 2006, 3:44 pm
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Originally Posted by PforPlatinum
Sweet,
Thanks, KVS.
One question/request.
I downloaded new version, and it worked fine when award seats are available, and all fare class displayed. But if no seat available, warning message with "Datasource Error: No award seat is available for the date you selected" pops up - then no information displayed - stays blank. Is this by design ? I'd rather like to see all class fare displayed with award seat showing 0, like F0 E0. Can you make this change in future release?
Thanks, KVS.
One question/request.
I downloaded new version, and it worked fine when award seats are available, and all fare class displayed. But if no seat available, warning message with "Datasource Error: No award seat is available for the date you selected" pops up - then no information displayed - stays blank. Is this by design ? I'd rather like to see all class fare displayed with award seat showing 0, like F0 E0. Can you make this change in future release?
Unfortunately, that's beyond my control: There has to be at least 1 award seat available (in any cabin) for a flight to show-up via the NWAWP method (and that message will show when no flights were found).
Sep 22, 2006, 7:34 pm
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I see.
Thank you, anyway, for your effort to keep up with frequent database/code/etc change on airline side.
Thank you, anyway, for your effort to keep up with frequent database/code/etc change on airline side.