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KVS Availability Tool - UA

This thread is a branch-off from the Master KVS Availability Tool Thread, and is intended for discussion and support on UA-specific issues.

Please continue to use the main thread for all other matters, and http://www.KVSTool.com for membership-related inquiries.

Availability:

UA Booking Classes Displayed via the KVS Tool (UA Award/Upgrade Classes are in green):

[Sabre: FS]
- F A J C D Z P Y B M E U H Q V W S T L K G N
[Galileo: ETR]
- F A J C D Z P Y B M E U H Q V W S T L K G N
[Awards/StarAlliance]
- FS=O CS=I YS=X
[Awards/AC-StarAlliance]
- FS=O CS=I YS=X
[Awards-Upgrades/UA]
- F FN A ON O J JN C D Z ZN P PN R RN IN I Y YN B M E U H HN Q V W S T L K G N XN X

OnePass Star Alliance & Partner Award Availability:

CO Award & Upgrade availability is supported.
All Star Alliance partners are also supported: AC/US/LH/LX/OS/SK/TP/LO/JK/BD/TK/SN/A3/JJ/SQ/NZ/NH/OZ/TG/CA/SA/MS/ET/JP/OU/KF
Star Alliance Upgrade Availability is fully supported for all Star Alliance carriers, except JJ.
Also supported are the following non-Star Alliance partner airlines:
VS/HA/EK
Please see http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Classes for more details.

Fares, Fare/Routing Rules:

UA published Fares & Fare/Routing Rules are supported by all KVS Tool Fares Methods.
Also supported are UA-published Star Alliance Round-The-World (xRWSTARx/YRWSPCL) & other special circle Fares, including Circle Asia (xCASTARx), Circle North Asia (xCNASTRx) & Circle Pacific (xCPSTARx) via the [Fares/DotRes] Method.
Please see http://Help.KVSTool.com/#RTW for more details.

Seat Maps:

UA Seat Maps are available via the [Amadeus Text] & [Amadeus Enhanced] options.

Timetables:

UA flights are supported.

Operational Info/Flight Tracking:

Detailed Operational Info (incl. delay reasons, etc.) is available for UA flights via the [Amadeus] option.
Detailed Operational Info is also available for most other Star Alliance flights via the [Amadeus] option.
UA flights are supported in all Tracking options.

Does Amadeus really show "R". I thought it was hidden and internal to CO only?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vulcan

Does Amadeus really show "R". I thought it was hidden and internal to CO only?

Yes, it definitely does, e.g.:

[KVS Availability Tool - Amadeus: AUA/*A]

Code:

NYC  New York Metro NY US = JFK LGA EWR

LON  London Metro UK = LHR LGW STN LTN LCY

THU  01 Sep 2005



Carrier   Flight From Depart    To   Arrive    A/C  St Availability

--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- -- -------------------------------------------------------- 

CO        18     EWR  18:50     LGW  06:40 +1  777  0  J9 D9 Z9 R5 Y9 H9 K9 N9 B9 O0 V9 U9 Q9 I9 S9 W9 T5 X5 L0

Can't find any Upgrade class codes using KVS

[QUOTE=KVS]Yes, it definitely does

Well, I can't seem to find them, even using Amadeus. Or Apollo ITN/UA. :(

Also, are there other hidden fare bucket codes on Continental? And are they the same on COPA?

Quote:

Originally Posted by landrew

Well, I can't seem to find them, even using Amadeus. Or Apollo ITN/UA. :(

Also, are there other hidden fare bucket codes on Continental? And are they the same on COPA?

Well, the R class on CO can still be accessed via Amadeus. As for other codes, there is a [CO Award/Upgrade classes] link located in the 1st post of this thread...

[KVS Availability Tool - Amadeus: AUA]

Code:

NYC  New York Metro NY US = JFK LGA EWR

LON  London Metro UK = LHR LGW STN LTN LCY

THU  01 Dec 2005



Carrier   Flight From Depart    To   Arrive    A/C  St Availability

--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- -- ------------

CO        18     EWR  18:50     LGW  06:40 +1  777  0  J9 D9 Z9 R9 Y9 H9 K9 N9 B9 O0 V9 U9 Q9 I9 S9 W9 T9 X9 L9

But remember everyone, fare class "R" cannot happen on int'l routes, right?

Quote:

Originally Posted by AviationFreak

But remember everyone, fare class "R" cannot happen on int'l routes, right?

It can happen, it just isn't used for EUA. I have no idea what it is used for on such itineraries.

R class on intl. segments is the upgrade to BF bucket. Also, when R is available, standard BF awards are highly likely to be available.

Using Amadeus no CO connections are being seen, say for PHL-JAX as an example. Non-stops to/from hubs are found.

Am I missing something?

Quote:

Originally Posted by carpboy

Using Amadeus no CO connections are being seen, say for PHL-JAX as an example. Non-stops to/from hubs are found.

Am I missing something?

The problem with Amadeus is you can't limit the airline you are searching, so there are plenty of routes it comes up with besides CO, which means it might not display every combination. What you can do is search the connections on Worldspan limiting the search to just CO. Then search each leg out on Amadeus to look for R (if thats what you are trying).

Quote:

Originally Posted by cobrax333

...so there are plenty of routes it comes up with besides CO, which means it might not display every combination...

I've tried a number of city pairs and it seems the most it returns is 34 flights, counting a connection as two flights. It also seems to be (somewhat) Star biased despite being told 'all'. It doesn't seem to be an issue of 'plenty of other routes', it just seems to be not showing much other routes. In the PHL-JAX example, except the lone (why just 1???) DL and FL flight, everything is CLT and IAD (also 4 NS's). I wouldn't call that a plethora of 'other routes'.

Quote:

Originally Posted by carpboy

cobrax333 is correct -- you can't limit the results to a specific airline with the Amadeus method. What you would need to do is split your request into 2 or more parts (depending on how many connecting points there are). For example, for PHL-JAX, you would need to request availability for PHL-CLE, and then for CLE-JAX:

[KVS Availability Tool - Amadeus: AUA]

Code:

PHL  Philadelphia Metro / Philadelphia Int'l PA US = PHL TTN [KPHL]

CLE  Cleveland Hopkins Int'l OH US [KCLE]

WED  01 Mar 2006



Carrier   Flight From Depart    To   Arrive    A/C  St Availability

--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- -- --------------------------------------------

CO        3287   PHL  06:30     CLE  08:09     ERJ  0  Y9 H9 K9 N9 B9 O9 V9 U9 Q9 I9 S9 W9 T9 X9 L6

CO        2294   PHL  13:15     CLE  14:44     ER3  0  Y9 H9 K9 N9 B9 O9 V9 U9 Q9 I9 S9 W9 T4 X9 L0

CO        3219   PHL  14:25     CLE  16:05     ER3  0  Y9 H9 K9 N9 B9 O9 V9 U9 Q9 I9 S3 W9 T0 X7 L0

CO        1600   PHL  18:15     CLE  19:55     738  0  A9 D9 Z9 R9 Y9 H9 K9 N9 B9 O9 V9 U9 Q9 I9 S9 W9 T9 X9 L9

[KVS Availability Tool - Amadeus: AUA]

Code:

CLE  Cleveland Hopkins Int'l OH US [KCLE]

JAX  Jacksonville Int'l FL US [KJAX]

WED  01 Mar 2006



Carrier   Flight From Depart    To   Arrive    A/C  St Availability

--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- -- --------------------------------------------

CO        3180   CLE  09:30     JAX  11:45     ERJ  0  Y0 H0 K0 N0 B0 O0 V0 U0 Q0 I0 S0 W0 T0 X0 L0

Is there any way to pull up a CO PNR?

Vulcan,

Not only do they show it, the info is "dead-on" accurate. Knowledge is power and this tool has helped in my decision making and thus saved me from coach.

I don't not know how KVS get's the R bucket since I use Amadeus Professional GDS in my office on which R is hidden but KVS does show it in the *AUA version.

.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vulcan

Does Amadeus really show "R". I thought it was hidden and internal to CO only?

Quote:

Originally Posted by KVS

cobrax333 is correct -- you can't limit the results to a specific airline with the Amadeus method.

I am not questioning the ability to limit to a specific carrier; I am questioning the rationale in what flights/carriers are displayed. Does anyone know the scheme as to, in this example, what flights are to be displayed?

I find it very very strange that this city pair yields nothing but UA/US with a single DL and FL thrown in. Why a single DL, what with their hourly PHl-ATL service and probably the same on to JAX?

On the surface, something doesn't look rigtht and I suspect a bias. Perhaps there are other constricting criteria, maybe something silly like max 60 min. layover or something like that, I don't know. But on the surface, it does not look like a fair representation of flights.

Here's the pecking order on intl BF buckets:

E: General standard mileage awards

F: Platinum standard mileage awards

P: Easy pass Mileage awards

R: All mileage cash-in awards on revenue tix.

Of course, there is no Intl EUA.

Quote:

Originally Posted by xyzzy

It can happen, it just isn't used for EUA. I have no idea what it is used for on such itineraries.

Quote:

Originally Posted by carboy

On the surface, something doesn't look rigtht and I suspect a bias. Perhaps there are other constricting criteria, maybe something silly like max 60 min. layover or something like that, I don't know. But on the surface, it does not look like a fair representation of flights.

I don't believe there is any significant carrier bias in the Amadeus results, as they look very similar to the results from other GDS systems (e.g. Apollo). It may appear that there is an unfair bias toward US in these results, but that is because:

(a) US is the only carrier that has non-stop flights on this route, so its flights are listed first (taking 7 out of the 20 spots);
(b) There is no way to limit results to a specific carrier in Amadeus, so only 20 out of possible, say, 1000 combinations are shown.

[KVS Availability Tool - Amadeus: AUA]

Code:

PHL  Philadelphia Metro / Philadelphia Int'l PA US = PHL TTN [KPHL]

JAX  Jacksonville Int'l FL US [KJAX]

WED  01 Mar 2006



Carrier   Flight From Depart    To   Arrive    A/C  St Availability

--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- -- --------------------------------------------

US        1099   PHL  07:35     JAX  10:04     733  0  F9 P9 A8 Y9 B9 M9 H9 Q9 V9 L9 W9 S9 T9 K0 N0

UA/US     2374   PHL  07:35     JAX  10:04     733  0  F4 P4 Y4 B4 E4 M4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 A4 S4 T4 K4 L4 G0

US        783    PHL  11:50     JAX  14:12     320  0  F9 P9 A9 Y9 B9 M9 H7 Q4 V2 L1 W0 S0 T0 K0 N0

UA/US     2196   PHL  11:50     JAX  14:12     320  0  F4 P4 Y4 B4 E4 M4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W0 A4 S0 T0 K0 L0 G0

US        983    PHL  16:20     JAX  18:35     320  0  F7 P6 A4 Y9 B9 M9 H9 Q9 V9 L9 W9 S9 T9 K0 N0

UA/US     2289   PHL  16:20     JAX  18:35     320  0  F4 P4 Y4 B4 E4 M4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 A4 S4 T4 K4 L4 G0

US        836    PHL  18:00     JAX  20:28     733  0  F9 P9 A9 Y9 B9 M9 H9 Q9 V9 L9 W9 S9 T9 K0 N0

UA/US     2216   PHL  18:00     JAX  20:28     733  0  F4 P4 Y4 B4 E4 M4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 A4 S4 T4 K4 L4 G0

UA/US     2074   PHL  15:20     CLT  17:00     320  0  F4 P4 Y4 B4 E4 M4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 A4 S4 T4 K4 L4 G0

 -> UA/US 2492   CLT  17:30     JAX  18:48     734  0  F4 P4 Y4 B4 E4 M4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W0 A4 S0 T0 K0 L0 G0

US        171    PHL  15:20     CLT  17:00     320  0  F9 P9 A9 Y9 B9 M9 H9 Q9 V9 L9 W4 S3 T0 K0 N0

 -> US    1261   CLT  17:30     JAX  18:48     734  0  F9 P8 A8 Y9 B9 M9 H9 Q9 V9 L9 W4 S3 T0 K0 N0

US        890    PHL  05:30     CLT  07:04     734  0  F7 P6 A5 Y9 B9 M9 H9 Q9 V9 L9 W9 S9 T9 K0 N0

 -> US    1242   CLT  08:05     JAX  09:24     319  0  F9 P9 A9 Y9 B9 M9 H9 Q9 V9 L9 W9 S9 T9 K0 N0

UA/US     2246   PHL  05:30     CLT  07:04     734  0  F4 P4 Y4 B4 E4 M4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 A4 S4 T4 K4 L4 G0

 -> UA/US 2427   CLT  08:05     JAX  09:24     319  0  F4 P4 Y4 B4 E4 M4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 A4 S4 T4 K4 L4 G0

US        11     PHL  17:35     DCA  18:39     734  0  F5 P4 A3 Y9 B9 M9 H9 Q9 V9 L9 W5 S3 T0 K0 N0

 -> US    533    DCA  19:30     JAX  21:33     319  0  F9 P9 A9 Y9 B9 M9 H9 Q9 V9 L9 W5 S3 T0 K0 N0

UA        7126   PHL  19:36     IAD  20:49     CRJ  0  Y4 B4 E4 M4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W0 S0 T0 K4 L0 G0

 -> UA    7311   IAD  21:30     JAX  23:34     CR7  0  F4 P4 Y4 B4 E4 M4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 A4 S4 T0 K4 L0 G0

US        7463   PHL  19:36     IAD  20:49     CRJ  0  Y4 B4 M4 H4 Q0 V0 L0 W0 S0 T0 K0 N0

 -> US    7522   IAD  21:30     JAX  23:34     CR7  0  F4 A4 Y4 B4 M4 H4 Q4 V4 L0 W0 S0 T0 K0 N0

US        7464   PHL  10:24     IAD  11:30     CRJ  0  Y4 B4 M4 H4 Q4 V4 L4 W4 S0 T0 K0 N0

 -> US    7519   IAD  12:21     JAX  14:26     CRJ  0  Y4 B4 M0 H0 Q0 V0 L0 W0 S0 T0 K0 N0

UA        7144   PHL  10:24     IAD  11:30     CRJ  0  Y4 B4 E4 M4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 K4 L0 G0

 -> UA    7304   IAD  12:21     JAX  14:26     CRJ  0  Y4 B4 E4 M4 U4 H4 Q0 V0 W0 S0 T0 K4 L0 G0

UA/US     2347   PHL  16:45     CLT  18:27     734  0  F4 P4 Y4 B4 E4 M4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W0 A4 S0 T0 K0 L0 G0

 -> UA/US 2171   CLT  19:30     JAX  20:49     734  0  F4 P4 Y4 B4 E4 M4 U4 H4 Q4 V0 W4 A4 S4 T4 K4 L4 G0

US        71     PHL  16:45     CLT  18:27     734  0  F5 P4 A3 Y9 B9 M9 H9 Q9 V8 L6 W1 S0 T0 K0 N0

 -> US    281    CLT  19:30     JAX  20:49     734  0  F9 P9 A9 Y9 B9 M9 H9 Q9 V8 L6 W1 S0 T0 K0 N0

DL        465    PHL  10:40     ATL  13:02     757  0  F9 A9 Y9 B9 M9 H9 Q9 K9 L9 U9 T9

 -> DL    403    ATL  13:39     JAX  14:45     757  0  F9 A9 Y9 B9 M9 H9 Q9 K9 L9 U9 T9

FL        229    PHL  06:10     ATL  08:20     717  0  A4 J4 D4 Y4 B4 M4 K4 Q9 E4 L0 T4 R0 H4 V4

 -> FL    935    ATL  09:10     JAX  10:16     717  0  A4 J4 D4 Y4 B4 M4 K4 Q9 E4 L0 T4 R0 H4 V4

US        3223   PHL  11:45     DCA  12:57     ERJ  0  Y9 B9 M9 H9 Q9 V9 L9 W9 S9 T5 K0 N0

 -> US    93     DCA  13:50     JAX  15:53     319  0  F9 P9 A8 Y9 B9 M9 H9 Q9 V9 L9 W9 S9 T5 K0 N0

UA        7195   PHL  14:35     IAD  15:40     CRJ  0  Y4 B4 E4 M4 U4 H4 Q4 V0 W0 S0 T0 K4 L0 G0

 -> UA    7883   IAD  16:36     JAX  18:45     CR7  0  F4 P4 Y4 B4 E4 M4 U4 H4 Q4 V0 W0 A4 S0 T0 K4 L0 G0

US        7465   PHL  14:35     IAD  15:40     CRJ  0  Y4 B4 M4 H0 Q0 V0 L0 W0 S0 T0 K0 N0

 -> US    7521   IAD  16:36     JAX  18:45     CR7  0  F4 A4 Y4 B4 M4 H0 Q0 V0 L0 W0 S0 T0 K0 N0

[KVS Availability Tool - Apollo: ITN/CWT/US-CA]

Code:

PHL  Philadelphia Metro / Philadelphia Int'l PA US = PHL TTN [KPHL]

JAX  Jacksonville Int'l FL US [KJAX]

WED  01 Mar 2006



Carrier   Flight From Depart    To   Arrive    A/C  St Availability

--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- -- --------------------------------------------

US        1099   PHL  07:35     JAX  10:04     733  0  F9 P9 A8 Y9 B9 M9 H9 Q9 V9 L9 W9 S9 T9 K0 N0

UA/US     2374   PHL  07:35     JAX  10:04     733  0  F4 Y4 B4 M4 E4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 K4 L4 G0 P4 A4

US        783    PHL  11:50     JAX  14:12     320  0  F9 P9 A9 Y9 B9 M9 H7 Q4 V2 L1 W0 S0 T0 K0 N0

UA/US     2196   PHL  11:50     JAX  14:12     320  0  F4 Y4 B4 M4 E4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W0 S0 T0 K0 L0 G0 P4 A4

UA/US     2289   PHL  16:20     JAX  18:35     320  0  F4 Y4 B4 M4 E4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 K4 L4 G0 P4 A4

UA/US     2216   PHL  18:00     JAX  20:28     733  0  F4 Y4 B4 M4 E4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 K4 L4 G0 P4 A4

US        836    PHL  18:00     JAX  20:28     733  0  F9 P9 A9 Y9 B9 M9 H9 Q9 V9 L9 W9 S9 T9 K0 N0

FL        229    PHL  06:10     ATL  08:20     717  0  A4 J4 Y4 B4 M4 K4 Q4 E4 L4 T4 R0 V4 D4 H4

 -> FL    935    ATL  09:10     JAX  10:16     717  0  A4 J4 Y4 B4 M4 K4 Q4 E4 L4 T4 R0 V4 D4 H4

DL        265    PHL  06:30     ATL  08:45     M80  0  F7 A0 Y7 B7 M7 H7 Q7 K7 L7 U7 T7

 -> DL    960    ATL  09:59     JAX  11:08     M80  0  F7 A0 Y7 B7 M7 H7 Q7 K7 L0 U0 T0

DL        265    PHL  06:30     ATL  08:45     M80  0  F7 A0 Y7 B7 M7 H7 Q7 K7 L7 U7 T7

 -> DL    960    ATL  09:59     JAX  11:08     M80  0  F7 A0 Y7 B7 M7 H7 Q7 K7 L0 U0 T0

CO/Pinnacl8055   PHL  07:00     MEM  08:45     CRJ  0  Y9 H9 K9 N9 B9 V2 Q0 S0 T0 L0

 -> CO/Pin5984   MEM  09:30     JAX  12:15     CRJ  0  Y9 H9 K9 N9 B9 V2 Q0 S0 T0 L0

DL        641    PHL  07:30     ATL  09:56     757  0  F7 A7 Y7 B7 M7 H7 Q7 K7 L7 U7 T7

 -> DL    942    ATL  12:05     JAX  13:08     M80  0  F7 A7 Y7 B7 M7 H7 Q7 K7 L7 U7 T7

US        1075   PHL  08:05     CLT  09:53     767  0  F9 P9 A9 Y9 B9 M9 H9 Q9 V9 L9 W7 S5 T0 K0 N0

 -> US    1145   CLT  11:30     JAX  12:51     319  0  F9 P9 A9 Y9 B9 M9 H9 Q9 V9 L9 W7 S5 T0 K0 N0

US        1075   PHL  08:05     CLT  09:53     767  0  F9 P9 A9 Y9 B9 M9 H9 Q9 V9 L9 W9 S9 T7 K0 N0

 -> US    1115   CLT  13:00     JAX  14:17     733  0  F9 P9 A9 Y9 B9 M9 H9 Q9 V9 L9 W9 S9 T7 K0 N0

UA/US     2334   PHL  08:05     CLT  09:53     767  0  F4 Y4 B4 M4 E4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 K4 L4 G0 P4 A4

 -> UA/US 2353   CLT  13:00     JAX  14:17     733  0  F4 Y4 B4 M4 E4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 K4 L4 G0 P4 A4

DL        1144   PHL  08:40     ATL  11:02     757  0  F7 A7 Y7 B7 M7 H7 Q7 K7 L7 U7 T7

 -> DL    942    ATL  12:05     JAX  13:08     M80  0  F7 A7 Y7 B7 M7 H7 Q7 K7 L7 U7 T7

US        731    PHL  10:00     CLT  11:52     319  0  F9 P9 A9 Y9 B9 M9 H9 Q9 V9 L9 W9 S9 T5 K0 N0

 -> US    1115   CLT  13:00     JAX  14:17     733  0  F9 P9 A9 Y9 B9 M9 H9 Q9 V9 L9 W9 S9 T5 K0 N0

UA/US     2628   PHL  10:00     CLT  11:52     319  0  F4 Y4 B4 M4 E4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 K4 L4 G0 P4 A4

 -> UA/US 2353   CLT  13:00     JAX  14:17     733  0  F4 Y4 B4 M4 E4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 K4 L4 G0 P4 A4

UA/US     2628   PHL  10:00     CLT  11:52     319  0  F4 Y4 B4 M4 E4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 K4 L4 G0 P4 A4

 -> UA/US 2353   CLT  13:00     JAX  14:17     733  0  F4 Y4 B4 M4 E4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 K4 L4 G0 P4 A4

UA/US     2628   PHL  10:00     CLT  11:52     319  0  F4 Y4 B4 M4 E4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 K4 L4 G0 P4 A4

 -> UA/US 2353   CLT  13:00     JAX  14:17     733  0  F4 Y4 B4 M4 E4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 K4 L4 G0 P4 A4

The first post has been updated to reflect the new CO booking classes, and new NWAWP method that provides access to the CO award/upgrade classes.

See also: http://www.FlyerTalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=603988

Quote:

Originally Posted by KVS

Wow. Thank you sooo much. You continually to amaze me in bringing this valuable information to us. The ability to now see CO "F" is invaluable to me in planning trips. For instance, on a trip I have this Wednesday where I have not cleared the upgrade list, I can see that F=2.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vulcan

You're welcome!

I knew something had to be done when I started receiving PMs from CO users suffering from the R-Class Withdrawal Syndrome :).

I just started to try to use the KVS tool and wondered if the tool is broken or the CO WWW site broken (I know I bet its the CO Site).

I am trying to book a CLE-NRT flight for 10/21/06 returning on 10/27/06.

Just looking at the departure the CO site shows a connection through EWR but the KVS tool (checked multiple methods) never shows this as an option, it routes me on an ERJ through ORD. CO and Expedia also show many seats available on the EWR route....Did I do something wrong using the KVS tool or should I tend to beleive the CO WWW site problems are to blame.

Of course, there is no Intl EUA.[/QUOTE]

They dont advertise them but if its a full flight they do do them...3 times this summer I have been EUA at the gate for Intl flights, all because they were overbooked....once to Beijing....how sweet that was.

Thanks CO!

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Originally Posted by CLEHillbilly

I just tried it using Apollo and the EWR route does show-up. Have you entered "CO" in the [Airline:] field? Is the [Time:] field set to "(Any)"?

BTW, what did you mean by "multiple methods" (there is only 1 Method in the Lite version) :confused:.

[KVS Availability Tool 2.4.0/Platinum - Apollo: ITN/US-TNT]

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CLE  Cleveland Hopkins Int'l OH US [KCLE]

NRT  Tokyo Narita JP [RJAA]

SAT  21 Oct 2006



Carrier   Flight From Depart    To   Arrive    A/C  St Availability

--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- -- --------------------------------------------------------

CO        724    CLE  06:40     EWR  08:09     73G  0  A4 D4 Z4 R4 Y9 H9 K9 N9 B9 O9 V9 U9 Q9 I9 S9 W9 T9 X9 L9

 -> CO    9      EWR  11:10     NRT  13:50 +1  777  0  J9 D0 Z0 R4 Y9 H9 K9 N9 B9 O9 V9 U9 Q9 I9 S9 W9 T0 X0 L0

[KVS Availability Tool 2.4.0/Platinum - Apollo: ITN/US-TNT]

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NRT  Tokyo Narita JP [RJAA]

CLE  Cleveland Hopkins Int'l OH US [KCLE]

FRI  27 Oct 2006



Carrier   Flight From Depart    To   Arrive    A/C  St Availability

--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- -- --------------------------------------------------------

CO        8      NRT  16:20     EWR  16:05     777  0  J0 D0 Z0 R4 Y9 H9 K9 N9 B9 O9 V9 U9 Q9 I9 S9 W9 T0 X0 L0

 -> CO    825    EWR  18:05     CLE  20:03     738  0  A4 D4 Z4 R4 Y9 H9 K9 N9 B9 O9 V9 U9 Q9 I9 S9 W9 T9 X9 L9

CO        8      NRT  16:20     EWR  16:05     777  0  J0 D0 Z0 R4 Y9 H9 K9 N9 B9 O9 V9 U9 Q9 I9 S9 W9 T0 X0 L0

 -> CO    425    EWR  20:25     CLE  22:04     735  0  A0 D0 Z0 R4 Y9 H9 K9 N9 B9 O9 V9 U9 Q9 I9 S9 W9 T9 X9 L9

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Originally Posted by MBM3

Is there any way to pull up a CO PNR?

good question...has this been answered recently?

thanks for all the info!

Quote:

Originally Posted by MBM3

Is there any way to pull up a CO PNR?

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Originally Posted by fool4miles

good question...has this been answered recently?

thanks for all the info!

If you are unable to retreive your CO PNR using Worldspan, take a look at KVS Tool FAQ Part 3 (link below):

Certainly there are International EUAs

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Originally Posted by CLEHillbilly

They dont advertise them but if its a full flight they do do them...3 times this summer I have been EUA at the gate for Intl flights, all because they were overbooked....once to Beijing....how sweet that was.

Not Op-ups, but EUAs. There are international EUA's. However, only for certain routes (mostly Latin America). I've gotten EUA's on international segments to SJO and LIM, plus GUM-HKG. Think any 737 or 757 for certain routes. :)

which fare bucket is used for sky team/flying blue

if i'm using flying blue mileage to book on CO which fis the relevant fare bucket for both econ and biz. is it G and R, or something else.

Is there a way to only look up F inventory without getting the "No Availability" for standard award buckets?

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Originally Posted by thenewflesh

Is there a way to only look up F inventory without getting the "No Availability" for standard award buckets?

Unfortunately, no: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showp...0&postcount=11

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Originally Posted by ICanSeeForMiles

if i'm using flying blue mileage to book on CO which fis the relevant fare bucket for both econ and biz. is it G and R, or something else.

It's G & E.

Still learning how to use this KVS tool...hope its ok to keep asking as I learn....todays question...

Is there a way for CO (with or without KVS) to see when a flight is oversold?

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Originally Posted by CLEHillbilly

Is there a way for CO (with or without KVS) to see when a flight is oversold?

No, and no. That information is only available to CO employees.

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Originally Posted by KVS

If you are unable to retreive your CO PNR using Worldspan, take a look at KVS Tool FAQ Part 3 (link below):

Still cant do it, but I am guess that is because I bought directly from CO?

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Originally Posted by MBM3

Still cant do it, but I am guess that is because I bought directly from CO?

Yes...

Please note that the top post has been updated to reflect the latest changes:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showt...61#post6964161
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showt...24#post7063824

While there is currently no way to see CO F-class availability directly, if one knows (or can establish) the correlation between the the standard business award class (E/CS) availability, the non-restricted business award availability (P/CA) and the upgrade availability, then upgrade availability can be estimated using those factors ...

The top post has been updated with the latest information, including the recent addition of support for CO Upgrade/SWU Availability in the KVS Tool.

Award Availability for Virgin Atlantic [VS], a OP Redemption Partner, is coming soon. The Beta sign-up form is currently available on the KVS Tool Homepage (http://www.KVSTool.com/).

The top post has been updated with the information on the new [Awards-Upgrades/CO] Method, which replaces the previous [Upgrades/CO] Method in KVS Tool Version 6.4.0, which is now available for download at http://www.KVSTool.com/

The supported CO Booking Classes Chart (http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Classes) has now also been expanded accordingly:

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