Smaller First Classes
Jun 24, 2005 | 9:29 am
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Originally Posted by kingalien
I was on a 735 two days ago and chuckled when the recording used to prepare the cabin for landing included "...return your foot rests and video monitors to their original position..."
Interesting. As far as I know, none of the 735s have video monitors or recordings used for the safety demo, the FAs basically do it.
Jun 24, 2005 | 9:53 am
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Originally Posted by mlawless
Channa:
Don't forget the EWR-ATL route. I really don't understand how that qualifies as a "leisure route" since I see the same business travellers on the flight every time I fly it!
Don't forget the EWR-ATL route. I really don't understand how that qualifies as a "leisure route" since I see the same business travellers on the flight every time I fly it!
When they cut the 753's F seats, they spun that as "leisure routes." Then we started seeing that bird on EWR-LAX and such. I don't know how much more of a business route you can get than EWR-LAX.
At least they're fixing the 753 issue. Hopefully they'll do the same with the 735. I was always of the mindset they should have added F to the plane to go from 104 down to 100, then cut a FA for guaranteed savings.
Jun 25, 2005 | 12:33 pm
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Originally Posted by fly747first
Interesting. As far as I know, none of the 735s have video monitors or recordings used for the safety demo, the FAs basically do it.
not sure why??
Jun 26, 2005 | 9:39 am
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500's have always had the pre-recorded announcement machine (PRAM). It's the beige box with buttons on the wall to your left when go enter. It isn't set up for the demo (it changes too often), however, it will do most of the other announcements. It's the FA's option whether to use it or not. Most don't for some reason. Technologically intimidated I guess.
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Jun 26, 2005 | 3:05 pm
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Originally Posted by Weatherboy
Elite upgrade annoyance aside, I think the reduced first class cabin is harming the equity of premium service that CO has/had.
When I'm sitting in F in these 737's, you hear endless comments from passengers as they board in disbelief of the tiny cabin. "CO must be having problems", "ohh this must be part of their cutbacks because they're going broke", "the cabin is gone, so I guess meals are going next", "no need to save miles for a 1st class ticket on this carrier", "now I see why they give away elite upgrades, there's not much to this cabin", "I would never ever pay for a first class ticket anywhere this airline flies if the cabins are this tiny" are the types of remarks you hear from passengers heading to the back.
Whether what they're saying is true or not, the fact that they leave the CO flight with an impression that's more negative when they first board must have a long-term bad impact for CO.
When I'm sitting in F in these 737's, you hear endless comments from passengers as they board in disbelief of the tiny cabin. "CO must be having problems", "ohh this must be part of their cutbacks because they're going broke", "the cabin is gone, so I guess meals are going next", "no need to save miles for a 1st class ticket on this carrier", "now I see why they give away elite upgrades, there's not much to this cabin", "I would never ever pay for a first class ticket anywhere this airline flies if the cabins are this tiny" are the types of remarks you hear from passengers heading to the back.
Whether what they're saying is true or not, the fact that they leave the CO flight with an impression that's more negative when they first board must have a long-term bad impact for CO.
Jun 27, 2005 | 7:41 am
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Originally Posted by mlawless
Channa:
Don't forget the EWR-ATL route. I really don't understand how that qualifies as a "leisure route" since I see the same business travellers on the flight every time I fly it!
Don't forget the EWR-ATL route. I really don't understand how that qualifies as a "leisure route" since I see the same business travellers on the flight every time I fly it!
Although since Continental runs these flights to (ex EWR and IAH) ATL, BOS, CHI, and WAS hourly (almost) and in shuttle type manner, it does make some sense they are using the 735s. It allows them to offer thr frequency AND fill the planes.
They are eventually moving to 8 seats in FC though from the 6...
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Jun 27, 2005 | 9:56 am
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The other problem w/the NEW, ENHANCED SMALLER first class is that the two FULL overhead bins over row 2 have doors that DON'T OPEN ALL OF THE WAY, so you have to go further into coach to place your bags if they have a little more thickness to them. Why can't they all open the same?
Jun 27, 2005 | 10:06 am
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Originally Posted by TheMan
The other problem w/the NEW, ENHANCED SMALLER first class is that the two FULL overhead bins over row 2 have doors that DON'T OPEN ALL OF THE WAY, so you have to go further into coach to place your bags if they have a little more thickness to them. Why can't they all open the same?
Jun 27, 2005 | 10:30 am
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Originally Posted by xyzzy
Because F is at the pointy end of the aircraft.
Jun 27, 2005 | 11:42 am
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Originally Posted by MBM3
Actually, I believe it is a result of a poorly designed cabin divider that restricts ability of the door to swing up to full range.
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Jun 27, 2005 | 12:24 pm
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Originally Posted by vincom
Have you seen what the some other 70% of the people on these flights are? Definately not "business" travelers...
Jun 27, 2005 | 12:26 pm
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Originally Posted by kingalien
Flew into ATL first time ever last week and I know what you mean!
No offense to anyone, but sometines i feel like those ATL flights are like an Airline episode waiting to happen.
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Jun 27, 2005 | 12:29 pm
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Originally Posted by MBM3
Actually, I believe it is a result of a poorly designed cabin divider that restricts ability of the door to swing up to full range.
Jun 27, 2005 | 1:32 pm
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Originally Posted by vincom
No offense to anyone, but sometines i feel like those ATL flights are like an Airline episode waiting to happen.
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Jun 27, 2005 | 4:17 pm
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Originally Posted by xyzzy
I've not investigated this completely, but I've found the bins at the front, on the curve of the aircraft, to always be a little shorter than ones farther back. Was I missing something? I've not been on a 6 seat F 737-500.