Aboslutely do. Been away from technology for the long weekend.

1) To the people who are telling me to mind my own business. I am. Had I interfered with the FAs, then you would be correct in telling me this. However, I did not say one word to ANYONE involved. That said, commenting and opining on a public forum is absolutely my business as it is the business of anyone here. Don't like what I have to say? Fine. I've been disagreed with before and I suspect I will be disagreed with again.

2) To the people who feel that I'm being insensitive to the obese: Fair point. I likely am and if I've offended you, I am sorry. However, I don't consider obesity to be a disability. We can debate this if you like; however, I suspect the thread will get pulled. That said, lest you think I'm some sort of heartless *******, I *have* given up Domestic F seats on two occasions to injured and sickly people. In this case, I feel the sole reason for this man getting the seat was his obesity. Yes he may have been plat, but I really have to wonder if the FA (not the concierge) did all the leg work and this person came out, fairly, on top. It is certainly possible, but doubtful

3) To the person who asked me the question about gorging: I would say that anyone who finishes the *full* BF service is gorging themselves (fat or thin). I've done it and I was most certainly gorging myself.

4) To the people who are telling me to get a life and such: Oh please. Get over yourselves

speaking of fat people, I was in Disney this weekend.
W O W !!!
They sure do have some big ones down there.
Thank God for those little electric carts with the baskets on the front.

Look at you, making friends and influencing people. ^ ^ ^

These airlines probably should be prosecuted for non-compliance with the ADA as it stands. The ONLY saving grace is that Kellner himself is like 6'6 and he tried to put me in my place telling me that even he fits in the seats... But you can be sure that he was not referring to the coach seats.

The guy paid for two seats for one person. This is unreasonable considering by law they are supposed to accomodate special needs people. The unit of sale of a ticket is per passenger not per pound or per cubic inch. He is one passenger, yet he was forced into paying for two seats.

And it gets even worse with clothes. Bigger people wear bigger clothes. Bigger clothes weigh more. The airlines make it difficult to travel as a big and/or tall person.

They make it intentionally uncomfortable in the back to try to sell more first class tickets at six times the price.

I believe that this was already litigated by Southwest - Southwest won the right to force COS to purchase two seats if they can't fit in one. Perhaps someone who's more familiar with the case can provide some details --- or more likely it was discussed somewhere on FT a long, long time ago.

The sold ticket is for a seat. Not person. How would you like to be the one seated between 2 COS with spillage both over and under the arm rest. Better yet, just put the armrest up and give them each a half of your seat... hummm with you squished in the middle..

Oh come on -- the seats have been about the same size for a lot longer than the ADA has been around. How big should the seats be? If we were to make seats so they could accomodate 99% of people there would only be two seats per row. We would all like larger seats, but the profitability of the airline and the net cost of a seat to the consumer has to be somewhere in the equation. Some people are just too big to fit into a standard seat. For those who are too big the airline offers larger seats.No -- the unit of sale is one ticket per seat. The passenger in question purchased tickets for two seats. I think if you look at the Southwest policy you'll find out that it is quite fair. Not all people are the same size. People do have special needs, and airlines do accomodate them. If your special need is that you take up the space of two seats then don't blame the airline for charging you for two. Why should the passenger next to such a person be required to share his seat?I suppose the next thing you'll tell us is that clothing manufacturers discriminate against large people by charging more for an XXXL large shirt than a small one when the large one uses 4x the amount of fabric.As with many things in life, if you want more you have to pay more. If you want a larger seat you should pay for it. That is your option. If you don't like the seats a particular airline is providing then choose another airline. If you find that all airlines are the same in this regard then perhaps you should reread Don Quijote and start tilting at windmills in your uphill battle to change the rest of the world.

Airlines are exempted from ADA compliance. From the Southwest explanation of their COS policy:

Doesn't your policy violate the Americans with Disabilities Act or the Air Carrier Access Act?

Interstate airline travel is specifically excluded from Title II of the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) by Section 12141(2). Airline travel is instead covered by the Air Carrier Access Act, 49 U.S.C. 1374(c) and the regulations implementing the Act issued by the Department of Transportation as 14 CFR Part 382, et seq. The Air Carrier Access Act (ACAA) preceded the ADA, and Congress excluded air carriers and other air transportation services from the scope of ADA. As regulated under 14 CFR §382.38 Seating accommodations (i) "Carriers are not required to furnish more than one seat per ticket or to provide a seat in a class of service other than the one the passenger has purchased."

You don't think that just maybe, after having done the right thing and paid for 2 seats, and having had to stand, make his case where others such as yourself could hear his dilemna, and possibly be embarrassed at requiring two seats, had ANYTHING to do with his getting the seat? Remember, it was not he who caused the situation. I still feel the flight attendant did the absolutely correct thing in the circumstances.

wonderful stuff...!
 

Please pass the popcorn.... (as they say on the BA board)!

The fact that you are bragging that your 14 year-old son has a "big blue mohawk" speaks volumes about your judgment! How obnoxious. :td:

I know I am probably not worthy to partake in a discussion of this level, and please excuse me for being ignorant and common, but can someone please explain to me what is a big blue mohawk and what the reference to it signified??? :confused: :confused: :confused:

What a Mohawk is. . .
 

A Mohawk is a type of hairstyle. Clean shaved on the sides with only a strip of hair running down the center of your scalp. Derived from the Mohican Indians, sported by Punks.

Big and Blue would mean the hair was dyed blue and a lot of hairspray was used to make it stand tall. Think of a rooster.

I think the reference was to say the originator of this post doesn't like anyone who doesn't conform to his image of what is proper (not being fat, not having a short haircut).

But frankly, I don't understand Flyfox's or BenjaminNYC's displeasure with the reference.

I'd like to think that I get pissed off just as easily as the next guy. I went over my head too.