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UncleDude May 27, 2005 2:21 pm

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UncleDude May 27, 2005 2:22 pm


Originally Posted by climbermom
If passengers would just mind their own business, this would not be an issue. Life is not fair -- the sooner we all learn to deal with it, the more enjoyable life will be for all of us.

You are probably the guy who complained when my elite 14-year-old son (sporting a big blue mohawk) got upgraded.

Oh I thought those Blue Vertical Stripes between me and the IFE system were a fault with the Movie :D

chasbondy May 27, 2005 2:45 pm


Originally Posted by rapopoda
. As such, an FA just let him sit in BF, rather than having the seating issues in Y fixed. This may be quite un-PC, but I found the situation to be utter crap. Rather than correcting the situation (and perhaps getting a plat or two in BF) this man was rewarded for being obese. He got the full BF service and proceeded to gorge himself for the entire flight. Bollox, if you ask me :mad:

Wasnt it the esteemed couselor, Johnny Cockroach, who one said "If the butt don't fit, you must double remit"? I'm trying to why making 2 people miserable in coach, so another person can have an upgrade is the better thing to do?
I can just imagine the outrage of the Plat I displaced when I was guaranteed a first class seat on the next flight and a $200 voucher if I'd accept a bump EWR-IAH early on a Sunday morning

Wallstreet10006 May 27, 2005 2:59 pm


Originally Posted by rapopoda
Bit angry then???? Nerve touched?

Sure,

People like you who need to be involved in matters that don't involve them make me a bit angry.

On your next flight, why don't you introduce yourself to the GA/FA and tell them to let you handle any seating assigment issues that come up.

It's now obvious to me that you know what's best for everyone, and we'd be lucky to have your wisdom imparted on us.

Have a great weekend, if that's possible for someone like you.

rapopoda May 27, 2005 5:19 pm


Originally Posted by Wallstreet10006
Sure,


Have a great weekend, if that's possible for someone like you.

Ah to be gloriously thin skinned.
Get over yourself m8

Hobie21 May 27, 2005 6:16 pm

And I thought the flaming in the PC computer thread was tough!

Big_China May 28, 2005 12:08 pm

It sounds to me like there is now a total break down in the CO system. If assigned seating is no longer honored then I suspect the upgrade process will be compromised as well. CO should not say they have assigned seating if everyone can just move around willy nilly like WN. Assigned seating is the main reason I fly CO and despise WN, but to say that there is one policy in place and then then throw those policies out the window will create complete anarchy...ANARCHY I TELL YOU!!!!!!!

ani90 May 28, 2005 1:39 pm


Originally Posted by otralot

If this person had not gotr their two seats together and they were a FT we would now be discusing compensation for not getting the two seats. How many of you would argue for an UG to BF :D :D :D

Similarly if he had got his two seats together someone or the other would also be complaining. Two seats does not solve much as mass spreads not only laterally but in front and behind. Someone of that size would be an inconvinience to passengers around him regardless of how many seats he occupies. So I suspect there would easily have been a thread about an obese man who kept my seat from reclining or kept nudging my seat, or bumping me in the aisle, or snoring, or shaking my seat each time he stood or moved etc....and of course they will even complain he occupied two seats (not knowing he actually paid for them).

So is it not then better he was in BF which was more spacious, and thus he was of less inconvenience to his fellow passengers? I see no problem with such occasional discretion. I remember once I saw an elderly lady with a stick who was at least 80 struggling through the aisles to get to her coach seat when BF was empty - I thought that was cruel. A passenger gave up his seat for her at the front of Y rather than see her suffer. I know they have a standard to maintain (in BF) but sometimes we have to remember we are all human and show comapssion for each other - someday it will be your turn, maybe you or a loved one are sick, incapacitated, elderly - or even obese - and you would have just wished for more compassion than being stuffed in a middle seat when there are empty seats upfront.

CalFlyGAL May 28, 2005 2:14 pm


Originally Posted by ani90
So is it not then better he was in BF which was more spacious, and thus he was of less inconvenience to his fellow passengers? I see no problem with such occasional discretion. I remember once I saw an elderly lady with a stick who was at least 80 struggling through the aisles to get to her coach seat when BF was empty - I thought that was cruel, and the FAs did nothing to help. A passenger gave up his seat for her at the front of Y rather than see her suffer. I know they have a standard to maintain (in BF) but sometimes we have to remember we are all human and show comapssion for each other - someday it will be your turn, maybe you or a loved one are sick, incapacitated, elderly - or even obese - and you would have just wished for more compassion than being stuffed in a middle seat when there are empty seats upfront.


Of course, Blame the Flight Attendant, it is always their fault.

flymeaway May 28, 2005 2:48 pm


Originally Posted by ani90
I remember once I saw an elderly lady with a stick who was at least 80 struggling through the aisles to get to her coach seat when BF was empty - I thought that was cruel, and the FAs did nothing to help.


You guys do know that you're only getting part of the story when you observe some situations on board, right?

Case in point, a very elderly and proud passenger on one of my recent flights - also very slow and unsteady on his feet. One of my crewmembers took his bag and his arm to help him down the aisle, but the man stopped him and insisted on doing it himself while he still could.

Now, had you seen only the man (barely) walking alone down the aisle you'd probably be cursing us as cruel and uncaring - but we weren't.

The moral of the story? Please don't be quick to judge when you don't know everything. We definitely are not perfect, but we definitely aren't as bad as you assume either.

Adding to be 'on-topic' - perhaps this was also the case with this man's upgrade? Unless you were the passenger, the GA, or the FA, you just might not know the entire story.

ani90 May 28, 2005 4:41 pm


Originally Posted by CalFlyGAL
Of course, Blame the Flight Attendant, it is always their fault.

You have picked on a single phrase and taken my response well out of the intended context! I have edited my post and removed the reference to FA, as the post was not intended to blame FAs in anyway, indeed by inference I was supporting the actions of the FA in OP. I recognise the FAs are merely doing their job as defined by their employer.

I do not want to distract from the main issue, which is whether it was okay for CO to upgrade a passenger in BF because he was overweight; the discussion has nothing to do with a flight attendants' role.

Snoopy May 28, 2005 5:22 pm


Originally Posted by rapopoda
As for my spelling of BOLLOCKS: it's a colloqueal spelling. Deal with it

Just like "colloqueal" no doubt.......

Greetings from the fat guy in 1A.... :)

bnrdad May 28, 2005 8:55 pm


Originally Posted by rapopoda
Rather than correcting the situation (and perhaps getting a plat or two in BF) this man was rewarded for being obese. He got the full BF service and proceeded to gorge himself for the entire flight. Bollox, if you ask me :mad:

How did he gorge himself - did he bring on his own food - did CO provide him with extra portions not given to others? Was there more food for him than other people in BF and you were envious?

Curious as to why you think an obese person "gorges", while another person simply "cleans his plate". Please explain, and while you're at it, why you have decided it's your business to take inventory and pass judgement on other people's behavior.

"Dr. Phil" has openings on his show beginning mid-July.

You'd be a perfect candidate.

Meanwhile, try getting a life.

MISSION May 28, 2005 9:12 pm

It Is Sad
 
When we make such an issue of someone who I am sure is having a hard life with his weight. I would have gladly given up my seat in BF to someone who was "physically challenged". Its time to end. God Bless

BigPoppaCO May 28, 2005 9:14 pm

I wasn't at the CO "do", but judging from the pics there appears to be more than few FT'ers that appreciate a good meal up front :D


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