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Old Nov 20, 2004 | 9:37 am
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KLM award availability problem

Any way to solve this problem? I wanted to book a DEN-MUC C class award with OP miles. I have 80.7k miles so the TATL has to be on NW/KL. I was able to find C award seats on NW to AMS on 4/14-17. I thought that would be the hard part. So I check WPAA lister and find loads of availability on KL for the onward trip AMS-MUC and return. 5 flights a day each way and all are available in both classes, both ways. So, I call the OP int'l award desk (twice) and they insist there is no award availability on those days to MUC. They say the same for any # of other destinations w/i Europe I suggest. So obviously, CO draws from a different award bucket. One agent says that seats will be released later. However, my DEN-AMS-DEN reservation is on a 10 day hold. If I ticket and try to add MUC later, I'm sure they will consider it a destination change and charge me fees or the new 100k NW mileage price. If I don't ticket the res. I'm unlikely to be unable to find award seats later on the TATL legs. I thought the "seemless" Skyteam integration would avoid these issues. Anyone have any suggestions for a way to get around this problem?
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Old Nov 20, 2004 | 8:29 pm
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Originally Posted by myleguy
I thought the "seemless" Skyteam integration would avoid these issues. Anyone have any suggestions for a way to get around this problem?
There is no seamless integration...esp. with the blue demons. We at NWA have similar problems with connecting available award travel routings that are not specified as defaults by NWA.COM even when they're available. It's a favorite rant of mine and others: check the NWA board. What I do with WP (I'm not sure how OP handles these things): book the sectors that are available. Jump on the C class translant sectors now. For WP Plat, no change fees, so keep calling to get the intra-Europe inventory added as a ticket change when (if) these sectors open up.
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Old Nov 20, 2004 | 9:22 pm
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KL is probably the most notorious for marrying city pairs like this.

Just because DEN-AMS + AMS-MUC are available, doesn't mean that DEN-AMS-MUC will be available on the same ticket. This is by design.

If you can stop over in AMS and try for an AMS-MUC the next day, you may have better luck.

Another thing to try would be AMS-CDG-MUC on AF.
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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 1:42 am
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Originally Posted by channa
If you can stop over in AMS and try for an AMS-MUC the next day, you may have better luck.
I went through the exact same thing when Mrs. D2 and I went IAH-AMS-MUC two years ago. We ended up doing the stopover in AMS for two nights and really, really liked it.

In hindsight, I really wish we didn't talked into the 630AM AMS-MUC continuing flight......
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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 11:47 am
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update

I decided to go to FRA instead. All NW flights with better domestic connections. I've decided to focus on AA, AS, and F9 from now on, where I've had much better luck in getting my first choice of destinations.
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