oops - open engine latch on transcon flight
Jan 31, 2012 | 9:35 am
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With AA191, the engine started to fall off the pylon before take-off. The engine flew above the wing and then sliced through it.
A few seconds later, the plane hit the ground. Not only was everyone on board killed, most bodies were completely incinerated.
In the case of UA232, a fan disk failed and the debris resulted in hydraulic line damage.
First the damage was not as extreme as AA191, but also the United a/c was at 37,000.
Although the plane was virtually impossible to control, Captain Haynes was able to land at Sioux City. Although 111 people died, 185 survived the accident.
In that respect, the UA incident was obviously far less severe than the AA incident. While there are many differences, one of the main ones was that the AA incident occurred at take-off, meaning the plane is much more vulnerable, with very little altitude, flying barely above its stall speed, and heavy with fuel. Those elements certainly contributed to the magnitude of the tragedy at O'Hare.
Jan 31, 2012 | 7:57 pm
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Feb 4, 2012 | 8:20 pm
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Actually, the two incidents were quite different.
With AA191, the engine started to fall off the pylon before take-off. The engine flew above the wing and then sliced through it.
A few seconds later, the plane hit the ground. Not only was everyone on board killed, most bodies were completely incinerated.
In the case of UA232, a fan disk failed and the debris resulted in hydraulic line damage.
With AA191, the engine started to fall off the pylon before take-off. The engine flew above the wing and then sliced through it.
A few seconds later, the plane hit the ground. Not only was everyone on board killed, most bodies were completely incinerated.
In the case of UA232, a fan disk failed and the debris resulted in hydraulic line damage.
Feb 4, 2012 | 9:03 pm
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Slightly OT, but as AA 191 was mentioned, it reminds me of one of my favorite stories about my wife.
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Another eerie coincidence is that the infamous DL crash of an L1011 in DFW due to a thunderstorm downdraft was also flight #191. Perhaps that number should have been retired.
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Another eerie coincidence is that the infamous DL crash of an L1011 in DFW due to a thunderstorm downdraft was also flight #191. Perhaps that number should have been retired.
Feb 4, 2012 | 9:39 pm
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As a traveler, if I noticed something out of the ordinary like that, I would have told the FA to tell the pilot. And then let the pilot decide how important it is, because I'm not an aeronautical engineer.
Because I'd rather make a normal landing in the middle of the country than an abnormal one.
Nice pickup to notice it.
Because I'd rather make a normal landing in the middle of the country than an abnormal one.
Nice pickup to notice it.
Feb 5, 2012 | 9:34 am
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One of my favorite Twilight Zone episodes, Something on the Wing with William Statner.
He did report the creature on the wing but they thought he was nuts.
He did report the creature on the wing but they thought he was nuts.
Feb 5, 2012 | 12:06 pm
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