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BeagleFlyer Jan 29, 2012 8:49 am

oops - open engine latch on transcon flight
 
I thought folks would enjoy this photo - CO 1703 on Monday, Jan 23 - we flew from EWR to SFO with a port-side engine latch open.


http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/...0_06/latch.jpg

DenverBrian Jan 29, 2012 8:55 am

I assume this is why God invented redundancy. Multiple latches, yes?

BeagleFlyer Jan 29, 2012 8:58 am

Ha - as a traveler, I really wanted to get to SFO and not make a landing in the middle of the country to close it. As an engineer, I observed multiple latches, no vibrations, and figured if this was all it took to bring down a 737-700, we'd have known about it by now.

I figured I'd ding my call button if things degenerated :) And we landed without incident.

mherdeg Jan 29, 2012 3:59 pm


Originally Posted by BeagleFlyer (Post 17908710)
Ha - as a traveler, I really wanted to get to SFO and not make a landing in the middle of the country to close it. As an engineer, I observed multiple latches, no vibrations, and figured if this was all it took to bring down a 737-700, we'd have known about it by now.

I figured I'd ding my call button if things degenerated :) And we landed without incident.

"There's an engineer on the wing."

aubreyfromwheaton Jan 29, 2012 4:08 pm


Originally Posted by BeagleFlyer (Post 17908710)
Ha - as a traveler, I really wanted to get to SFO and not make a landing in the middle of the country to close it.

As a traveler, if I noticed something out of the ordinary like that, I would have told the FA to tell the pilot. And then let the pilot decide how important it is, because I'm not an aeronautical engineer.

Because I'd rather make a normal landing in the middle of the country than an abnormal one.

Nice pickup to notice it.

TWA Fan 1 Jan 29, 2012 4:11 pm


Originally Posted by aubreyfromwheaton (Post 17910940)
As a traveler, if I noticed something out of the ordinary like that, I would have told the FA to tell the pilot. And then let the pilot decide how important it is, because I'm not an aeronautical engineer.

Because I'd rather make a normal landing in the middle of the country than an abnormal one.

Nice pickup to notice it.

The thing is, though, you would probably have to be an aeronautical engineer (or at least a pilot or aircraft mechanic) to notice something like that in the first place...

Scottrick Jan 29, 2012 4:16 pm

Eek! Glad it worked out. I usually freak out a bit when I look out at the wing and think, "That's all that's keeping us from plummeting to our deaths!" Even if the engine dies, we could still glide for a while with the wings.

lensman Jan 29, 2012 4:51 pm

I think I might have reported it as well. There supposedly a woman on AQ 243 who noticed a small crack in the fuselage on boarding but didn't report it. :(

At 500 knots there's liable to be little warning between "trouble" and "catastrophic failure".

bentruler Jan 29, 2012 6:57 pm


Originally Posted by TWA Fan 1 (Post 17910956)
The thing is, though, you would probably have to be an aeronautical engineer (or at least a pilot or aircraft mechanic) to notice something like that in the first place...

Some engineer decided to paint that bright red for a reason. At 500 knots a little airflow under that piece... not sure I'd want to see how that ends.

TWA Fan 1 Jan 29, 2012 7:02 pm


Originally Posted by bentruler (Post 17911739)
Some engineer decided to paint that bright red for a reason. At 500 knots a little airflow under that piece... not sure I'd want to see how that ends.

No kidding, not to mention how much it might have contributed to extra fuel used...

Steve M Jan 29, 2012 7:15 pm

Assuming it was like that prior to departure and didn't pop up while in flight, that doesn't speak very well toward the pilot that did the pre-flight walk-around.

halls120 Jan 29, 2012 7:26 pm


Originally Posted by TWA Fan 1 (Post 17910956)
The thing is, though, you would probably have to be an aeronautical engineer (or at least a pilot or aircraft mechanic) to notice something like that in the first place...

Not if you were a Twilight Zone fan growing up. :D

TWA Fan 1 Jan 29, 2012 7:29 pm


Originally Posted by halls120 (Post 17911865)
Not if you were a Twilight Zone fan growing up. :D

Good point, except I remember that being a lot more obvious than an open latch... ;)

halls120 Jan 29, 2012 7:30 pm


Originally Posted by TWA Fan 1 (Post 17911878)
Good point, except I remember that being a lot more obvious than an open latch... ;)

LOL, many years ago on my first ever flight on a 732, I actually asked one of the flight attendants why so much oil was dribbling out of the engines.

TWA Fan 1 Jan 29, 2012 7:49 pm


Originally Posted by halls120 (Post 17911887)
LOL, many years ago on my first ever flight on a 732, I actually asked one of the flight attendants why so much oil was dribbling out of the engines.

I think one of the all time aviation experiences was sitting in the cabin while the L-1011 did its "death shake" as the engines were turned on...

It was totally normal, but if you didn't know it was coming, it felt like the plane was about to fall apart...


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