flyer215

Yeah doing that. Just set up another for "R" as well as the "RN".

Just was wondering if waitlist SHOULD read "RN" since I am elite, instead of "R", and if that has the potential to screw me over if this goes down to the wire...

as219

I am currently within the UDU window for a CO metal flight, which shows R2 RN3. I called CO to ask what gives and was told that R/RN are for upgrades with miles/instruments and that the UDU bucket is not visible to us on the website. I have no way to know if this is accurate, but it is consistent with what I'm seeing.

UA-NYC

EUA also comes out of R/RN, you just never know when the hamster wheel will turn unfortunately. Only once every 24 hours up until T-24.

No more dynamic waitlisting going forward - joy

as219

Not sure what you mean by this. I've now been within my UDU window for 48 hours, with R and RN > 0 for the flights in question, and I'm still in Y. I understand sweeps happen only once per 24 hours, but if R/RN really were straightforward UDU buckets, then I would be in F, right?

UA-NYC

Another possibility - did the total F count decrease in the past 24 hours? Any chance a PPlat or a Plat on a higher fare got upgraded ahead of you?

From what I know about the mysterious CO EUA system - just because there is positive R space, that doesn't mean that EUA will run (this is more likely the case). I know it's confusing - seems like CO mainly does upgrades at the T-24 mark now (yes, I know, YMMV). Allows them to try and get elites to either use miles to snatch up the seats, or to do TOD / cash buy-ups to F.

This is what we have to look forward to full-time starting next year by the way...

sbm12

The inventory in those buckets isn't necessarily >0 at the sweep time point just because it is right now. :-:

as219

No. Of the two flights in question, F stayed the same with one, increased by 1 in the other.

Well, if this is true, then the upgrade windows are entirely meaningless. But to reiterate, it's not what the CO rep said. She told me R/RN are for upgades supported with miles/money/instruments only, not for EUA. She specifically said the EUA bucket is (a) separate and (b) hidden to pax, that there's no way to see this information on the website. She said from where she sat, R/RN was > 0 for my flights, meaning she could confirm me right away if I was willing to pay for it, but the "hidden" EUA bucket was zero. I have no independent information to confirm or deny this is true.

In theory you're right, but in my case the flights in question were R3/RN3 and R1/RN1 when I went to sleep last night and R4/RN4 and R1/RN1 this morning. You can't be suggesting that they zeroed these out just before the sweep, then restored them immediately after the sweep, are you?

BTW, it's not that I feel "entitled" to the ugpade or anything, I'm just trying to understand what seems like a needlessly complex system.

UA-NYC

It's simple (unfortunately) - 1) there are multiple upgrade buckets (so they can ramp up the YBM ones and decrease the R/RN ones as they see fit), 2) there is no dynamic waitlisting a la UA, so the "upgrade window" is a bit of a farce as you noted, and 3) upgrades now seem to come at or inside T-24, which fosters more cash buy-ups.

sbm12

Yes.

as219

If that's true, all I can say is wow.

Joshua

CO1489 tonight is F0 PN8 Y7.

You can buy a Y-up and it will offer an upgrade although no seat assignment is available.

I guess they're willing to oversell First for YBM-uppers.

rgamay

I recently did a buy up fare and was put in PN class. Does this does get 150% elite miles?

sbm12

If you did it in advance of the day of travel and the fare difference you paid was to a B fare then probably. If not then probably not.

DAS02135

Is anyone having trouble getting United credit for PN flights taken and booked on CO?

I purchased a full fare B class economy ticket on the Continental website for a flight in early October. When I booked, it asked me if I wanted a free upgrade to first, which I of course took. That evidently moved me into PN class. Now United is denying me flight credit, with the letter stating "The booking class for the flight is not eligible for flight credit."

Any advice?

DAS02135

Anyone have strategies for working with United? The person on the phone simply kept stating, "The booking class shows as ineligible for mileage."