CO to Bud
Mar 28, 2010 | 1:58 am
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CO to Bud
What would be the best fare to purchase on CO from NY to Budapest giving me the best chance for an U/G? I'm a GE. Much appreciated
Mar 28, 2010 | 8:40 am
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CO doesnt fly to BUD so youd have to fly to a *A hub in Europe and connect there. Which will mean the UP will be only to/from the European Hub = IMO if you are based in the NY area youd do best with Coach the whole way, as its not really that long of a flight say EWR-FRA to me at least to justify spending alot more $$$ for a higher fare basis, or for having to pay the co-pay which from an M fare is $250 & 20k up to $500 & 20k per way.
I dont think we can as of yet Upgrade on *As European Carriers and even if we could the Biz section on the intra-Europe flights is usually a coach seat with an empty seat next to you
If Biz is that important check out Malev but its a member of OW and not *A
I dont think we can as of yet Upgrade on *As European Carriers and even if we could the Biz section on the intra-Europe flights is usually a coach seat with an empty seat next to you
If Biz is that important check out Malev but its a member of OW and not *A
Mar 28, 2010 | 9:29 am
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Whew. I thought that the airline was switching beers...seriously.
Mar 28, 2010 | 1:09 pm
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"Sir, yes, we have Chimay for sale. Each bottle is $150."
Since they're selling middle seat in exit rows on one hour flights for about $50, a $150 bottle of beer would be perfectly in line with the Smisek strategy...
Mar 28, 2010 | 1:41 pm
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You certainly can upgrade on the majority of *A airlines if you're on a Y/B fare. This is a standard *A benefit, and there is no co-pay - just miles.Additionally, like many places CO does not fly to, you can fly there on a CO ticket, and most likely on a CO codeshare end to end. You don't have to buy the *A connection separately or anything like that. As an example of a CO EWR-BUD fare:
[KVS Availability Tool 5.4.0/Diamond - TVN: EWR-BUD/CO/WLX5NCE/416 USD]
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INSTANT PURCHASE NONREFUNDABLE-TYPE FARES [RULE APPLICATION AND OTHER CONDITIONS] NOTE - THE FOLLOWING TEXT IS INFORMATIONAL AND NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. CO TRANSATLANTIC ROUNDTRIP STRUCTURE FARES FROM THE AREA 1 TO AREA 2/3. APPLICATION AREA THESE FARES APPLY FROM AREA 1 TO AREA 2/AREA 3. CLASS OF SERVICE THESE FARES APPLY FOR ECONOMY CLASS SERVICE. TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION THIS RULE GOVERNS ROUND-TRIP FARES. FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE ROUND-TRIP/CIRCLE-TRIP/SINGLE OPEN-JAW JOURNEYS. THESE FARES MAY BE APPLIED RETROACTIVELY. CAPACITY LIMITATIONS THE CARRIER SHALL LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS CARRIED ON ANY ONE FLIGHT AT FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE AND SUCH FARES WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE AVAILABLE ON ALL FLIGHTS. THE NUMBER OF SEATS, WHICH THE CARRIER SHALL MAKE AVAILABLE ON A GIVEN FLIGHT, WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE CARRIER S BEST JUDGEMENT. [ELIGIBILITY] NO ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS APPLY. [DAY/TIME] TO AREA 2 - PERMITTED SUN THROUGH THU ON EACH TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR. FROM AREA 2 - PERMITTED MON THROUGH THU ON EACH TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR. [SEASONALITY] PERMITTED 04NOV09 THROUGH 16DEC09 OR 24DEC09 THROUGH 25MAR10 OR 24OCT10 THROUGH 15DEC10 OR 24DEC10 THROUGH 31MAR11 ON THE OUTBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR. SEASON IS BASED ON DATE OF ORIGIN. [FLIGHT APPLICATION] IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN AREA 1 THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY US ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY B6. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA TRANSATLANTIC SECTORS ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY CO FLIGHT OPERATED BY AC ANY CO FLIGHT OPERATED BY CO ANY CO FLIGHT OPERATED BY LH ANY CO FLIGHT OPERATED BY UA. [ADVANCE RESERVATIONS/TICKETING] FARE RULE CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS FOR ALL SECTORS ARE REQUIRED AT LEAST 7 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE. WAITLIST NOT PERMITTED. TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 72 HOURS AFTER RESERVATIONS ARE MADE OR AT LEAST 7 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE WHICHEVER IS EARLIER. GENERAL RULE - APPLY UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. CO SAME DAY TRAVEL OPTIONS - AVAILABLE WHEN CHECKING IN AT AIRPORT KIOSKS. APPLIES TO OUTBOUND/CONTINUING/RETURN FLIGHTS. . 1. SAME DAY STANDBY PERMITTED FOR AN EARLIER FLIGHT FOR A FEE OF A. PLATINUM ELITE - 0.00 USD B. GOLD ELITE - 25.00 USD C. SILVER ELITE - 50.00 USD D. NON-ELITE - 50.00 USD TRAVEL MUST BE BETWEEN THE SAME ORIGIN/DESTINATION AND CONNECTION ARPTS. CO-TERMINAL STANDBY IS NOT PERMITTED. STANDBY PROCESSING WILL OCCUR WITHIN 24 HOURS OF A PASSENGERS DESIRED FLIGHT. . 2. CONFIRM A SEAT ON AN ALTERNATE FLIGHT FOR A FEE OF A. PLATINUM ELITE - 0.00 USD B. GOLD ELITE - 25.00 USD C. SILVER ELITE - 50.00 USD D. NON-ELITE - 50.00 USD ON FLIGHTS DEPARTING WITHIN 24 HOURS OF CHECK-IN WHEN - A. THE SAME TICKETED INVENTORY CLASS IS AVAILABLE. B. TRAVEL IS BETWEEN THE SAME ORIGIN CITY AND DESTINATION CITY. C. NEW FLIGHTS AND ROUTING ARE PERMITTED PER THE FARE RULE. D. ALL TRAVEL IS ON- CO FLIGHTS 1-889 CO FLIGHTS 1000-1299 CO FLIGHTS 1400-1899 CO FLIGHTS 2000-3169 CO FLIGHTS 3200-3499 CO FLIGHTS 4900-4949 CO FLIGHTS 5500-5999 CO FLIGHTS 9105-9119 CO FLIGHTS 9120-9310 CO FLIGHTS 9356-9400 CO FLIGHTS 9491-9595 E. NOTE - FOR FARES TICKETED ON OR BETWEEN 17JUN08 AND 31AUG09 FEE APPLIES TO FLIGHTS WITHIN 12 HOURS OF CHECK-IN. FOR FARES TICKETED PRIOR TO 01OCT09 PLATINUM FEE IS 25.00. . 3. TO CONFIRM A SEAT ON A FLIGHT OUTSIDE OF THE 24 HOUR CONFIRMED SEAT PERIOD THE RULES OUTLINED IN THE PENALTY SECTION WILL APPLY. . 4. CUSTOMERS STANDING BY FOR CO FLIGHTS OPERATED BY A PARTNER MAY BE ASSESSED A FEE. [MINIMUM STAY] TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER THAN THE FIRST SUN AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN. [MAXIMUM STAY] TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN 12 MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN. [STOPOVERS] NO STOPOVERS PERMITTED. [TRANSFERS] 4 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION. 2 PERMITTED IN AREA 2/AREA 3 IN EACH DIRECTION 2 PERMITTED IN AREA 1 IN EACH DIRECTION. FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT. [COMBINATIONS] DOUBLE OPEN JAWS NOT PERMITTED. ADD-ONS PERMITTED. END-ON-END END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED. VALIDATE ALL FARE COMPONENTS. FARES MUST BE SHOWN SEPARATELY ON THE TICKET. TRAVEL MUST BE VIA THE POINT OF COMBINATION. OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS -TO FORM SINGLE OPEN JAWS MILEAGE OF THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE EQUAL/LESS THAN MILEAGE OF THE LONGEST FLOWN FARE COMPONENT. -TO FORM ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS. PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY ROUND TRIP FARE FOR CARRIER CO/UA/LH/AC/LX/OS IN ANY RULE FOR TRAVEL VIA THE ATLANTIC. [BLACKOUT DATES] NO BLACKOUT DATES APPLY. [SURCHARGES] NO SURCHARGE REQUIREMENTS APPLY. [ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL] ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL NOT REQUIRED. [TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS] NO TRAVEL DATE RESTRICTIONS APPLY. [SALES RESTRICTIONS] FARE RULE TICKETS MAY BE ISSUED BY PTA. PTA CONSTITUTES TICKETING. GENERAL RULE - APPLY UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED TICKETS MAY BE ISSUED BY PTA. PTA CONSTITUTES TICKETING. TICKETS MAY NOT BE SOLD IN VENEZUELA. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. FOR ITINERARIES SOLD OUTSIDE OF VE - CREDIT CARDS ISSUED IN VE ARE NOT ACCEPTED. EXTENSION OF TICKET VALIDITY PERMITTED UNDER GUIDELINES SET FORTH BY CARRIER. CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS. [PENALTIES] CANCELLATIONS TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. IF ANY PART OF THE TICKET IS UNUSED IT HAS NO VALUE AFTER TICKETED DEPARTURE DATE. CHANGES CHARGE USD 250.00 FOR REISSUE. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. ITINERARIES MAY BE REBOOKED UP TO ONE YEAR FROM ORIGINAL TICKET ISSUE DATE PROVIDED THE PASSENGER CANCELS THE TICKETED FLIGHT RESERVATION PRIOR TO TICKETED DEPARTURE TIME. IF THE TICKETED FLIGHT RESERVATION IS NOT CANCELLED PRIOR TO TICKETED DEPARTURE TIME REBOOKING IS NOT PERMITTED AND THE TICKET HAS NO VALUE. TICKETS MUST BE REISSUED AT THE TIME A CHANGE IS MADE. CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY. ---------- SECTION 1 - WHOLLY UNUSED TICKETS - BEFORE DEPARTURE OF THE OUTBOUND IN THE EVENT OF CHANGES TO TICKETED FLIGHTS BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TKT VALIDITY CHARGE USD 250.00 OR HIGHEST FEE OF ANY CHANGED FARE COMPONENT WITHIN JOURNEY. A. REPRICE USING CURRENT FARES PROVIDED THAT ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRVL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. CO FARES ARE USED 3. VALIDATE ADVANCE RES REQUIREMENTS WHEN BOOKING DATE KNOWN 4. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY OR- B. REPRICE USING CURRENT FARES - ONLY BOOKING CODE CHANGES PERMITTED PROVIDED ALL OF THE CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. NO CHANGE IN FARE BREAKS 2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRVL MUST BE DOMESTIC 3. CO FARES ARE USED 4. VALIDATE ADVANCE RESERVATIONS REQUIREMENTS WHEN BOOKING DATE KNOWN 5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE OF THE JOURNEY WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE REFUND RESIDUAL VIA VOUCHER AND COLLECT PENALTY ENDORSEMENT BOX- HIGHER NON-REF AMOUNT. OR- C. ON CHANGES MADE TO THE INBOUND PORTION OF OF THE ITINERARY ONLY - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN THE TICKET WAS ISSUED PROVIDING ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET - 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. CO FARES ARE USED 3. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET. 4. VALIDATE ADVANCE RESERVATIONS REQUIREMENTS WHEN BOOKING DATE KNOWN 5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF THE JOURNEY WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE REFUND RESIDUAL VIA VOUCHER AND COLLECT PENALTY ENDORSEMENT BOX- HIGHER NON-REF AMOUNT. OR - SUBSECTION 1A. - WHOLLY UNUSED TICKETS - BEFORE DEPARTURE OF THE OUTBOUND IN CASES OF DEATH BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TKT VALIDITY IN THE CASE OF DEATH OF PASSENGER OR FAMILY MEMBER - NO CHARGE OR HIGHEST FEE OF ANY CHANGED FARE COMPONENT WITHIN JOURNEY AND A. REPRICE USING CURRENT FARES PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRVL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. CO FARES ARE USED 3. VALIDATE ADVANCE RES REQUIREMENTS WHEN BOOKING DATE KNOWN 4. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM THE REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY OR - B. REPRICE USING CURRENT FARES - ONLY BOOKING CODE CHANGES PERMITTED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET - 1. NO CHANGE IN FARE BREAKS 2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN ALL NEW TRVL MUST BE DOMESTIC 3. CO FARES ARE USED 4. VALIDATE ADVANCE RES REQUIREMENTS WHEN BOOKING DATE IS KNOWN 5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY OR- C. ON CHANGES MADE TO THE INBOUND PORTION OF OF THE ITINERARY ONLY - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN THE TICKET WAS ISSUED PROVIDING ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET - 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. CO FARES ARE USED 3. ALL RULE AN BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET. 4. VALIDATE ADVANCE RESERVATIONS REQUIREMENTS WHEN BOOKING DATE KNOWN 5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF THE JOURNEY OR - D. CHANGES NOT PERMITTED/REFUND TKT-ANY REMAINING AMOUNT WILL APPLY TO THE NEW TICKET WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE REFUND RESIDUAL VIA VOUCHER. ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMT OR - SECTION 2. - PARTIALLY USED TICKETS - AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY CHARGE USD 250.00 OR HIGHEST FEE OF ANY CHANGED FARE COMPONENT WITHIN JOURNEY. AND REPRICE A. USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN THE TICKET WAS ISSUED PROVIDING ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET - 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRVL MUST BE DOMESTIC. 2. FULLY FLOWN FARE NOT REPRICE TO FURTHUR POINT. 3. CO FARES ARE USED 4. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVIOUS TKT. 5. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET. 6. VALIDATE ADVANCE RES REQUIREMENTS WHEN BOOKING DATE KNOWN. 7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM THE ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO THE DEPARTURE OF THE JOURNEY. OR REPRICE B. CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN THE TICKET WAS ISSUED. B1. UNCHANGED FARE COMPONENTS USING CURRENTLY TICKETED FARES. PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET - 1. NO CHANGE TO FARE BREAKS OF UNCHANGED FARE COMPONENTS 2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRVL MUST BE DOEMSTIC 3. FULLY FLOWN FARE NOT REPRICED TO FURTHER POINT 4. CO FARES ARE USED 5. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET 6. VALIDATE ADVANCE RES REQUIREMENTS WHEN BOOKING DATE IS KNOWN 7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF THE JOURNEY WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE REFUND RESIDUAL VIA VOUCHER AND COLLECT PENALTY ENDORSEMENT BOX- HIGHER NON-REF AMOUNT. OR - SUBSECTION 2A. - PARTIALLY USED TICKETS - AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE OUTBOUND IN THE CASE OF DEATH - AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY IN THE CASE OF DEATH OF PASSENGER OR FAMILY MEMBER NO CHARGE OR HIGHEST FEE OF ANY CHANGED FARE COMPONENT WITHIN JOURNEY AND A. CHANGES NOT PERMITTED/REFUND TKT-ANY REMAINING AMT WILL APPLY TO NEW TKT OR - REPRICE B. USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN THE TICKET WAS ISSUED PROVIDING ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET - 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRVL MUST BE DOMESTIC. 2. FULLY FLOWN FARE NOT REPRICE TO FURTHUR POINT. 3. CO FARES ARE USED 4. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVIOUS TKT. 5. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET. 6. VALIDATE ADVANCE RES REQUIREMENTS WHEN BOOKING DATE KNOWN. 7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM THE ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO THE DEPARTURE OF THE JOURNEY. OR - REPRICE C. CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN THE TKT WAS ISSUED. C1. UNCHANGED FARE COMPONENTS USING CURRENTLY TICKETED FARES. PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET - 1. NO CHANGE TO FARE BREAKS OF UNCHANGED FARE COMPONENTS 2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRVL MUST BE DOMESTIC 3. FULLY FLOWN FARE NOT REPRICED TO FURTHER POINT 4. CO FARES ARE USED 5. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET 6. VALIDATE ADVANCE RES REQUIREMENTS WHEN BOOKING DATE IS KNOWN 7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF THE JOURNEY WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE REFUND RESIDUAL VIA VOUCHER. ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMT. ------ NOTE - AFTER EACH TICKETED DEPARTURE TIME 1.NO CHANGES PERMITTED IF PASSENGER HAS NOT CANCELLED THEIR TICKETED FLIGHT RESERVATIONS. 2.TICKET HAS NO VALUE IF PASSENGER HAS NOT CANCELLED THEIR TICKETED FLIGHT RESERVATIONS. 3. 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APPLIES ONLY FOR TRANSPORTATION TO THE FIRST CITY SHOWN - AND RETURN WHERE SHOWN IN CONNECTION WITH PUBLISHED ROUND TRIP FARES. [FARE BY RULE] NOT APPLICABLE. [GROUPS] NO GROUP PROVISIONS APPLY. [TOURS] NO TOUR PROVISIONS APPLY. [VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY] NO VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY PROVISIONS APPLY. [DEPOSITS] NO DEPOSIT PROVISIONS APPLY. [VOLUNTARY CHANGES] ENTER RD*31 OR RD LINE NUM *31 FOR VOLUNTARY CHGS. [VOLUNTARY REFUNDS] NO VOLUNTARY REFUNDS DATA FOUND. [NEGOTIATED FARES] NOT APPLICABLE. IC.INTERNATIONAL CONSTRUCTION ** ADDONS FOR INFORMATION ONLY ** FARE--RT PUBLISHED AMOUNT CONVERTED AMOUNT ADDON CITIES F/B CUR VIA NUC ADDON ORG EWR-NYC W***** USD 0.00 USD 0.00 ATP ZONE 406 ADD-ON TARIFF AUSA/999 PUBLISHED NYC-BUD WLX5NCE USD 420.00 USD 420.00 USD CONVERTED TO CAD USING BSR 1 CAD - 0.984737 USD
then go for it ^
Mar 28, 2010 | 2:11 pm
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But all kidding aside, I was actually trying to make a serious point, namely that if you price yourself out of your market, then you end making less money.
You can sell a beer for $150 and it would strike most people as a little ridiculous. Of course, you could also price it at $25 million, for that matter.
But the price point needs to be set at a level where people will buy.
Just like there are likely to be very few takers of $150 bottles of beer, the same likely applies to sitting in a middle seat in an exit row for $50 for an hour flight.
If Smisek is really serious about making money, he would price these seats at about $10. Sure, that's a heck of a lot less than $50, except if people are really buying them.
Then it's $10 more than $50...
Mar 29, 2010 | 9:37 am
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Not opposed in the least.
But all kidding aside, I was actually trying to make a serious point, namely that if you price yourself out of your market, then you end making less money.
You can sell a beer for $150 and it would strike most people as a little ridiculous. Of course, you could also price it at $25 million, for that matter.
But the price point needs to be set at a level where people will buy.
Just like there are likely to be very few takers of $150 bottles of beer, the same likely applies to sitting in a middle seat in an exit row for $50 for an hour flight.
If Smisek is really serious about making money, he would price these seats at about $10. Sure, that's a heck of a lot less than $50, except if people are really buying them.
Then it's $10 more than $50...
But all kidding aside, I was actually trying to make a serious point, namely that if you price yourself out of your market, then you end making less money.
You can sell a beer for $150 and it would strike most people as a little ridiculous. Of course, you could also price it at $25 million, for that matter.
But the price point needs to be set at a level where people will buy.
Just like there are likely to be very few takers of $150 bottles of beer, the same likely applies to sitting in a middle seat in an exit row for $50 for an hour flight.
If Smisek is really serious about making money, he would price these seats at about $10. Sure, that's a heck of a lot less than $50, except if people are really buying them.
Then it's $10 more than $50...
Mar 29, 2010 | 10:03 am
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It might be worth it on the return, depending on your *A elite status and thus your lounge access and baggage allowance when checking in at BUD.
Mar 29, 2010 | 11:58 am
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Also, I would definitely pay extra $$$ for some premium beer selections on the plane. $15-$20 for Chimay (in the smaller corked bottle size) would happen regularly. The look on people's faces around me would be priceless. $20 on beer?!? Heh.
Mar 29, 2010 | 12:01 pm
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Just because there are people sitting in the exit row doesn't mean they paid anything. If they are CO OP Gold or Plats they still receive these seats for free.
Mar 29, 2010 | 12:10 pm
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When Continental puts out their quarterly income statement, do you think they will report this so we can see how well it is working? I know they talked in December about the buy ups to first producing several millions in extra revenue.
Mar 29, 2010 | 1:08 pm
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Doh! Forgot about that. Us lowly silvers don't get that benefit, so I tend to forget it exists.
When Continental puts out their quarterly income statement, do you think they will report this so we can see how well it is working? I know they talked in December about the buy ups to first producing several millions in extra revenue.
When Continental puts out their quarterly income statement, do you think they will report this so we can see how well it is working? I know they talked in December about the buy ups to first producing several millions in extra revenue.