Hi, I've lurked here for years and finally got up the courage to post! I did use search first, so I hope that there aren't a ton of posts that cover this issue...
I'm travelling with my family on paid Continental tickets to LAX-LHR going outbound on CO and returning on the Virgin CO Codeshare Jan 6 so all my flights are CO... I thought... When I booked the flights the return was shown as CO 8243 but now the records in the system show the flight as "VS23".
Two questions:
1. I booked my parents on this flight and they have United Mileage Plus and so I loaded their MP numbers in. Will they get MP credit for VS23? They are not elite or anything so I'm just looking for straight miles, not EQM or anything.
2. My wife and I are CO Plats. What baggage allowance will we get on VS23 now that it appears NOT to be a codeshare and would it really have made any difference? We are in discount Y...
Do I have any recourse with CO if they really changed this from a codesare to another airline's flight? I recollect that they marked the itin with a schedule change notice a while back but I just looked over the times and figured out that the times were still acceptable. Now I'm thinking that they changed the flight number rather than the times. EQM's are an issue here since I'd be travelling at the beginning of the year and planned to use this flight to get a start on 2010 EQM's.
I'm travelling with my family on paid Continental tickets to LAX-LHR going outbound on CO and returning on the Virgin CO Codeshare Jan 6 so all my flights are CO... I thought... When I booked the flights the return was shown as CO 8243 but now the records in the system show the flight as "VS23".
Two questions:
1. I booked my parents on this flight and they have United Mileage Plus and so I loaded their MP numbers in. Will they get MP credit for VS23? They are not elite or anything so I'm just looking for straight miles, not EQM or anything.
2. My wife and I are CO Plats. What baggage allowance will we get on VS23 now that it appears NOT to be a codeshare and would it really have made any difference? We are in discount Y...
Do I have any recourse with CO if they really changed this from a codesare to another airline's flight? I recollect that they marked the itin with a schedule change notice a while back but I just looked over the times and figured out that the times were still acceptable. Now I'm thinking that they changed the flight number rather than the times. EQM's are an issue here since I'd be travelling at the beginning of the year and planned to use this flight to get a start on 2010 EQM's.
Glad that you've come out of the shadows to ask a question!
A codeshare is always another airline's flight. That is the essence of codesharing. One airline puts its own code on another carrier's operations. In this case CO8243 was always VS0023. The difference is who you pay for the ticket and then there is a bunch of behind the scenes stuff between the airlines to determine how they split the revenue.
From a baggage perspective you are always subject to the rules of the carrier to which you submit your baggage initially. That is the case regardless of the code you are traveling on. So the baggage rules haven't changed for you. The (slightly) bad news is that you have always been subject to the VS rules for economy travel as a non-status passenger. Be ready for very stringent limitations on your carry-on, among other things.
Regarding you earning EQMs, so long as the flight continues to hold a CO code on it you will earn EQMs. This is a "bug" in the CO systems that issue such credit and one that they have previously stated they have no intention of fixing it. Looking at the schedule out into January at least right now VS23/24 still carry CO codes so you should be OK.
A codeshare is always another airline's flight. That is the essence of codesharing. One airline puts its own code on another carrier's operations. In this case CO8243 was always VS0023. The difference is who you pay for the ticket and then there is a bunch of behind the scenes stuff between the airlines to determine how they split the revenue.
From a baggage perspective you are always subject to the rules of the carrier to which you submit your baggage initially. That is the case regardless of the code you are traveling on. So the baggage rules haven't changed for you. The (slightly) bad news is that you have always been subject to the VS rules for economy travel as a non-status passenger. Be ready for very stringent limitations on your carry-on, among other things.
Regarding you earning EQMs, so long as the flight continues to hold a CO code on it you will earn EQMs. This is a "bug" in the CO systems that issue such credit and one that they have previously stated they have no intention of fixing it. Looking at the schedule out into January at least right now VS23/24 still carry CO codes so you should be OK.
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Timetable -- LAX-LHR for date: 201001220000 on carrier All Airlines
Carrier|Flight|From |To |Dep. Time|Arr. Time|Schedule|Equipment|Duration|Exceptions|
VS |8 |LAX |LHR |18:00 |12:30+1 |1234567 |346 |10:30 | |
CO/VS |9688 |LAX |LHR |18:00 |12:30+1 |1234567 |346 |10:30 | |
VS |24 |LAX |LHR |21:20 |15:50+1 |-234567 |346 |10:30 |1/26/2010 |
CO/VS |9694 |LAX |LHR |21:20 |15:50+1 |-234567 |346 |10:30 |1/26/2010 |
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Thanks! Just to be clear the fact that the flight now shows as VS23 in my CO reservation doesn't mean that it isn't a codeshare anymore, that's just a bug in the CO system? Also, I'm expecting that I'll also be subject to VS checked baggage restrictions rather than the more generous CO Plat Elite baggage allowance even though I'm travelling on a CO flight operated by VS?
I'm already wishing that I'd gone for the CO LHR-IAH-LAX flight. This is the first time in years that I've gone overseas in Y so I didn't think about this at the time. My experience in October in VS upperclass from LHR was very nice and baggage wasn't a problem at all (this was also a CO codeshare).
I'm already wishing that I'd gone for the CO LHR-IAH-LAX flight. This is the first time in years that I've gone overseas in Y so I didn't think about this at the time. My experience in October in VS upperclass from LHR was very nice and baggage wasn't a problem at all (this was also a CO codeshare).