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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 1:01 pm
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Getting into UAL E+

Not much to shout about but it is an extra 4 inches.

UA folks wave been poaching into our territory, including a 1K who was seated on my favorite seat when not upgraded (14C) - so how do we get into their E+ (without paying of course)
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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 1:03 pm
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Originally Posted by meFIRST
Not much to shout about but it is an extra 4 inches.

UA folks wave been poaching into our territory, including a 1K who was seated on my favorite seat when not upgraded (14C) - so how do we get into their E+ (without paying of course)
"Poaching into our territory"? What is the CO equivalent of E+? Oh right, it doesn't exist.
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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 1:04 pm
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easy...pay the upgrade fee from E- to E+, or purchase E+ for the whole year.
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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 1:06 pm
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Originally Posted by magiciansampras
"Poaching into our territory"? What is the CO equivalent of E+? Oh right, it doesn't exist.
Exit rows that are restricted to Golds and Plats until check-in.
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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 1:07 pm
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Give it time, it'll come.

I'd guess it's only a matter of time until we have a NW'esq relationship with UA in terms of elite benefits. UA's announcement of transitioning away from a cert based system to an EUA one indicates to me that they're planning on recp upgrades with CO - and when (not if) that comes to pass - I suspect we'll also see E+ access too.

In the interim your best bet might be to see if you can get a lounge agent to assign you a seat (RCC agents might do this and I suspect CO agents would do it, assuming they are able to assign seats on UA flights.)

I know that's not a good answer but sit tight and hopefully this'll be resolved within the next couple of months.
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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 1:08 pm
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Originally Posted by downhillcrasher
Exit rows that are restricted to Golds and Plats until check-in.
That's silly. Comparing an entire section of the airplane to an exit row just illustrates that CO has little to offer the UA flyer.

UA has exit rows too, you know.
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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 1:09 pm
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Originally Posted by J.Edward
UA's announcement of transitioning away from a cert based system to an EUA one indicates to me that they're planning on recp upgrades with CO - and when (not if) that comes to pass - I suspect we'll also see E+ access too.
I wouldn't hold your breath.
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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 1:13 pm
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Originally Posted by magiciansampras
"Poaching into our territory"? What is the CO equivalent of E+? Oh right, it doesn't exist.
Yes and no -- the exit rows on CO are the poor mans version of first and on the bulk of the fleet, only 6 (!) good seats exist. As such, I think CO should be a little proactive in protecting these seats in limiting their access to Golds and Plats until check-in. Hence the concern that CO's "giving away" the already tiny number of differentiated Y seats before check-in catches folks attention.

I personally don't think UA kicking over E+ for CO in return for CO's exit rows is a fair trade -- just like I don't think it's fair for customer who's not a CO gold/plat to book exit rows on CO in advance. (And of course I'd argue that exit rows on both carriers for Gold/1Ps, Plat/1ks, GS seems to be a fair exchange.)

However as I said in a post upthread, I think this is all temporary and we'll see E+ access for CO elites & EUA harmonization by the end of 2010, rendering all this moot.
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I wouldn't hold your breath.
No need to now. The question phase was seeing who'd change and now IMHO the writing's on the wall as to where it's going. <shrug>
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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 1:19 pm
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Originally Posted by meFIRST
UA folks wave been poaching into our territory, including a 1K who was seated on my favorite seat when not upgraded (14C) - so how do we get into their E+ (without paying of course)
Anybody can choose your favourite 14C at OLCI - how do you know they didn't just pick it then?

Did you seriously take the time to ask them what airline status they were and how they arrived at 14C? I'm hoping not.
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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 1:20 pm
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Originally Posted by J.Edward
Yes and no -- the exit rows on CO are the poor mans version of first and on the bulk of the fleet, only 6 (!) good seats exist. As such, I think CO should be a little proactive in protecting these seats in limiting their access to Golds and Plats until check-in. Hence the concern that CO's "giving away" the already tiny number of differentiated Y seats before check-in catches folks attention.

I personally don't think UA kicking over E+ for CO in return for CO's exit rows is a fair trade -- just like I don't think it's fair for customer who's not a CO gold/plat to book exit rows on CO in advance. (And of course I'd argue that exit rows on both carriers for Gold/1Ps, Plat/1ks, GS seems to be a fair exchange.)

However as I said in a post upthread, I think this is all temporary and we'll see E+ access for CO elites & EUA harmonization by the end of 2010, rendering all this moot.
No need to now. The question phase was seeing who'd change and now IMHO the writing's on the wall as to where it's going. <shrug>
I don't understand your logic. What does EUA have to do with E+?
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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 1:22 pm
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Originally Posted by magiciansampras
That's silly. Comparing an entire section of the airplane to an exit row just illustrates that CO has little to offer the UA flyer.

UA has exit rows too, you know.
I don't see how its silly, they may not be much compared to E+, but they should still be restricted to Golds and Plats. So if UA elites can get into them before check-in then they are getting a benefit that is not in anyway reciprocated by UA to CO elites.
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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 1:24 pm
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Originally Posted by star_world
Anybody can choose your favourite 14C at OLCI - how do you know they didn't just pick it then?

Did you seriously take the time to ask them what airline status they were and how they arrived at 14C? I'm hoping not.
I assumed he found out the easiest and most logical way - by talking to him. Whats so about talking to another passenger on a flight?
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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 1:25 pm
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Originally Posted by downhillcrasher
I don't see how its silly, they may not be much compared to E+, but they should still be restricted to Golds and Plats. So if UA elites can get into them before check-in then they are getting a benefit that is not in anyway reciprocated by UA to CO elites.
Why can't you get a UA exit row seat?
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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 1:27 pm
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The Solution? Simple!

CO needs E+
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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 1:27 pm
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Originally Posted by downhillcrasher
I assumed he found out the easiest and most logical way - by talking to him. Whats so about talking to another passenger on a flight?
Talking to another pax, nothing. But feeling the need to find out why they are in "my" seat -

I know what my reaction would be if someone asked me how I arrived at a particular seat on an aircraft
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