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yummyham Apr 23, 2002 3:52 pm

question for Mariners fans
 
My boyfriend and I were planning to go to
this weekend's M's/Yankees game. He's
advised me *not* to wear anything Yankees-
related. He's convinced that there'll be a lot
of hostility and perhaps a physical altercation.

How true is this? Does Seattle hate NY *that*
much? I don't think I should fear for my safety
just because I'm rooting for my hometeam.
So maybe I should stay quiet? (But then again,
I'm not one to walk away from a good fight...)

chexfan Apr 23, 2002 4:03 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by yummyham:
My boyfriend and I were planning to go to
this weekend's M's/Yankees game.
</font>
Umm... the game at Safeco? LMAO

This is the Pacific Northwest. Not NY, Philly, etc. I wouldn't fear wearing the ugly NY apparel in SEA. Just make sure you can run quick! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/tongue.gif

yummyham Apr 23, 2002 4:43 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by chexfan:
[/b]</font>
This is the Pacific Northwest...I wouldn't fear wearing the ugly NY apparel in SEA.[/B][/QUOTE]

"ugly apparel" huh?...as if Lumberjack-land is a fashion
mecca... http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

also...I don't think the Pacific Northwest is *that* much
more civilized than the rest of the US. (I've lived there,
I know.) So don't LYAO too hard...

Generally speaking, people are nice in the NW;
however, if you're an outsider, people can be really
mean: more so in Seattle than in Portland. Some of
the most malevolent people I've encountered (as an
"outsider") were in Seattle, not New York. (This is just
my personal experience...I'm not trying to start a
NY vs. Seattle thing.) http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

dhammer53 Apr 23, 2002 5:17 pm

Chexy,

I anxiously await your answer. And be nice. I met Yummyham and she's OK.

YH,

Let me know how they treat you. I'll be at the SEA DO in August; and we're all going to see the Yankees once again clip Seattle's wings. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif &lt;&lt;&lt; will be wearing my YANKEE cap.

Dan

Western Airlines Apr 23, 2002 5:18 pm

Yankees suck. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

------------------
But it's a dry heat.

chexfan Apr 23, 2002 5:43 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by yummyham:
"ugly apparel" huh?...as if Lumberjack-land is a fashion mecca... </font>
Fleece-land would have been a better comeback.


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by yummyham:
... also...I don't think the Pacific Northwest is *that* much more civilized than the rest of the US.</font>
simple use of the phrase "that much more" seems to admit that folks in the Pacific Northwest are more civilized.


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by yummyham:
Generally speaking, people are nice in the NW; however, if you're an outsider, people can be really mean: more so in Seattle than in Portland. Some of the most malevolent people I've encountered (as an "outsider") were in Seattle, not New York.</font>
Malevolence? Ever ask for directions in NY? Ever say HI and smile to a random person in NY? Ever try to start a conversation with someone who you don't know in NY?

Just don't use a big golf umbrella, don't jaywalk and you'll be fine in Seattle.


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by yummyham:
(This is just my personal experience...I'm not trying to start a NY vs. Seattle thing.)</font>
well you're doing a good job at it.

AGAIN, in conclusion, I feel that you will be perfectly fine wearing the "ugly NY apparel". The sports fans in Seattle are not of the same ilk as northeast sports fans (i.e. chasing folks out of Veterans Stadium for wearing an Aikman jersey OR throwing food at people in MSG for sporting an Elton Brand t-shirt). Although, those incidents can be found in other stadiums actoss the country, it is highly unlikely it will happen at Safeco, Key Arena, Seahawk Stadium, Bank of America Arena or Husky Stadium! It's simple, Seattle sports fans just aren't as rabid as sports fans in other cities.

TravelWeary Apr 23, 2002 5:56 pm

I've seen plenty of Skanky, whoops I mean Yankee, gear at Mariners games and haven't witnessed any hostility. What annoys me is anyone rooting obnoxiously for the other team. Come to think of it, rooting obnoxiously for any team. You know--screaming right in my ear or at inappropriate times, etc. Just be civilized yourself and people will respond good naturedly back.

BTW, I hope you have tickets already, cuz ya can't just walk up and buy them.

And you can't start a "NY versus Seattle thing" and then just say you're not so only you get to be insulting.

lalala Apr 23, 2002 6:02 pm

chexie-
bank of america arena - its still hec ed to
most of us!

yh
sigh, wear what you want, this is seattle where gore-tex goes with prada.

lala

flytoeat Apr 23, 2002 6:03 pm

As long as you don't drink too much and don't respond to the Mariner fans who scream "Yankees suck," you should be fine. That being said, the pain of the past two ALCS is palpable in Marinerville.

I WILL NOT get excited about the Mariner's regular season success. 116 wins doesn't mean a thing if you don't get to the World Series. I will get excited after they win their seventh post season game and are headed for the World Series.

Go Mariners!

yummyham Apr 23, 2002 6:47 pm

TravelWeary:
You're right that I can't say that I don't want to start
a two-city rivalry thread while slipping in a jab. I was
simply responding to the unnecessary "ugly" modifier
used by Chexfan.


Lalala:
I lovelovelove your comment ("this is seattle where
gore-tex goes with prada.) so true!


Dan:
Thanks for defending me in anticipation of Chexfan's
response...(wish I could make the Brooklyn tour, but
will be in PDX that weekend...)

Chexfan:
&lt;"Fleece-land would have been a better comeback."&gt;
What are ya? A writer, or something? http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

&lt;"Ever ask for directions in NY? Ever say HI and smile to
a random person in NY? Ever try to start a conversation
with someone who you don't know in NY?"&gt;
All the time! And with positive results (most of the time)
Especially when I first moved here six years ago from (dare
I say it, lest I trigger another city-bashing thread) L.A. It's
interesting that your experiences here in NY are almost
exactly the same that I've had in the NW. My favorite is
when people in Seattle speak loudly and v e r y
s l o w l y to me so that I might understand their English
better. (Nevermind that I'm American-born). My point,
Chexfan, is that our respective experiences in different cities
have been and will be different. If (and that's a big "if") you're
ever in NY, look me up and I'll show you the nice side.

I started this thread out of a genuine curiosity about
Seattle fans' reactions to fans from other cities. My (PDX)
boyfriend was so adamant about the hatred that Seattle
has towards NY that I wanted to investigate it myself.
I was hoping to avoid the qualifiers and judgments, but
I guess that was wishful on my part.

I'm not even a die-hard Yankees fan anyway. I'm more of
a "bandwagon" fan anyway, since I live here now. (Kinda
like the newbie-bandwagon-Safeco Mariners fans). I've seen
for myself how harsh NY fans can get even *before* the game
starts (e.g., heckling the little girl singing the national anthem.)
That was brutal, but kind of funny...and *very* symbolic...

In closing...
Chexfan: I'm sorry I got into it with you. Maybe our paths
will cross in a RCC one day and we can talk over drinks
and say good things about the two cities (three cities, if you
want to include LA.) http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

to the rest:
thank you for the useful and humorous responses.

Though I'm not an M's fan, I do love Ichiro! Gotta love him!
Banzai Ichiro! (and Sasaki!)

newself Apr 23, 2002 6:52 pm

You could wear Angel uniforms and get laughed at! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

ps: Even though we suck this year (and last), I still have to go on the company tickets!

mymiles2go Apr 23, 2002 8:32 pm

I went to a Yankees game last week, and was reminded how "civilized" Seattle fans are, comparitively. You can wear anything you want to the game, and the fans won't make anywhere near as much of a deal, as if you had said the opposites team name in Yankee Stadium. Have a great time. What day are you going? I'm thinking about going Saturday, so I still have Fri/Sun tickets left.

dhammer53 Apr 23, 2002 9:13 pm

[QUOTE]Originally posted by yummyham:


I've seen
for myself how harsh NY fans can get even *before* the game
starts (e.g., heckling the little girl singing the national anthem.)

&lt;&lt;&lt; YH, you must mean METS fans! LOL http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

Dan

yummyham Apr 23, 2002 9:32 pm

mymiles2go:
Thank you for the constructive input. My boyfriend's co-worker
had ten extra tickets this morning for Saturday's game. Unfortunately,
he said he feels compelled to divulge the fact that I'm a Yankees fan
because the co-worker might rethink passing along some of his season
tickets to a New Yorker. I haven't heard back yet, so I'm assuming
that we've been declined the tickets. (oh well...)

dan:
yes, as a matter of fact, they were Mets fans...

Mikey Apr 23, 2002 9:41 pm

Hi,

You'll be fine wearing any team apparel you like - even the Yankees, as long as you do not get too boisterous about the Yanks.

But even then, all you'll get back from being boisterous is a bunch of yells and catcalls.

Wear the Yankees gear, I say. Just don't sit next to me! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/tongue.gif

(Actually, I do not have any tix to the Yankee series - phooey!)

[This message has been edited by Mikey (edited 04-23-2002).]


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