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Old Aug 30, 2000 | 2:17 am
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Dear frequent flyers of any program,

desperate after several days on the internet, I'm still looking for frequent traveler statistics. Do you have any answers to the following questions (even if you just know details on your own FFP(s) - you know about the power of a community):

- No. of FFP members of the worlds biggest airlines
- No. of FGP members of the worlds biggest hotels
- Total no. of FTP (Frequent traveler program) members in the USA, Europe, Asia
- Growth rate of FTP members world-wide or by area

- Average miles earned/year per member
- Average miles spent/year per member
- Total miles earned/year (world-wide or by area)
- Total miles redeemed/year (world-wide or by area)
- Total outstanding mile debt of all airlines

- Price of miles purchased from a program partner
- Cost of miles redeemed for an airline (with or without consolidation of expired miles)

Many thanks in advance & best regards
Dominic Hofer / Switzerland
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Old Aug 30, 2000 | 11:05 pm
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DOHO .. welcome here as a first time poster! Sorry no-one else has any info for you yet in the 21 hours since you asked ... far too much navel gazing and reminiscing and back slapping going on lately it seems, to find time to welcome and assist someone NEW here, which is kind of ironic.

Here is info that may assist a little, from the world's largest airline. Others up with statistics on other plans may have similar data for you. btw .. the more correct forum to post this in might have been "General Travel Talk."

United Airlines has 38 million Mileage Plus members. Of that 38 million only about 40,000 this year have acheived the very highest "1K" level.

The top 9% of UA fliers generate 46% of the revenue.

In 1999 travel awards issued were: 2,240,336

Upgrade awards using points 811,105

Travel awards on partners 362,123

TOTAL MP awards 3,413,564

% of total passenger miles used for rewards during 1999 was 8.7%

Hope some of this helps!

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~ Glen ~



[This message has been edited by ozstamps (edited 08-31-2000).]
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Old Aug 31, 2000 | 3:31 am
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Dear Glen,

thank you very much for this warm welcome and the quoted information.
This is exactly the kind of "information- gathering" I expected: detailed information on one airline from many sources...

Thanks again and lots of fun on your next trips
Dominic
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Old Aug 31, 2000 | 4:42 am
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grezi Dominic

ich start htt n rtw-trip (StarAlliance) und wrd grn nach minnere Ruggchehr (nach m Zrcher-Knabeschssee) Kontakt ufneh und Villflger-Erfaarige uustusche.

Hsch luscht und ziit.

Ich wohn und schaff i de Agglo vo Zri.
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Old Aug 31, 2000 | 5:06 am
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Dear Glen, speaking for myself... Flyeratlk is just one part of my very beautiful and active life so I apologize to DOHO for not responding to his thread.

Just because I don't respond to every thread doesn't mean that it's not important.

In just 24 hours I...

*showered and shaved to leave a spot for my goatee.
*Went to my full time job and ended up producing and writing (9.5 hours)
*Bank Appointment
*Gift shopping for 2 friends birthdays.
*Talk to my best Friend Theresa.
*Talk to my godchild Tom Jr.
*Talk to one of my best buddies, Wes about personal issues (45 minutes alone!)
*Work on organization of the Toronto/Red Green Weekend by checking over attendees list.
*feed Cats (twice)
*Change Cats litter box.
*Have dinner with Boomer, Larry U and a friend of his in NYC.
*Work on reserving an award ticket at United for a very good friend of mine (who I hope accepts my offer.)
*commute back and forth.
*Enjoy the sunshine and complain about the warm weather.
*Sleep
*Dream of Having a duel with Quiet Lion over Charlene Teizon (SP?)
*Cats wake me up.
*Check stuff on FLyeratlk.
*do the work a day thing once agian.

I know you all would love me to respond to every post but with my busy life it's so impossible.

Maybe I should hire an assistant to read some of the Flyertalk posts for me. Any takers?

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Old Aug 31, 2000 | 7:32 am
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Ja Rudi, but are you certain that Dominic will understand your dialect?

(Besides, I thought that Swiss-German was only a *spoken* language)



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Old Aug 31, 2000 | 9:07 am
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Dear or sali Rudi,

well I definitely understand Swiss-German (what about baobab?).
Grn chi mir s ber FF-Theme unterhalte. nimme a, dass Du anhand mirer schrybwis o weisch vo wo ig chume (tip: mir halte bre mitte ir stadt...).

hb e schne flug
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Old Aug 31, 2000 | 9:41 am
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doho,

herzliche Gre nach Bern! And welcome to FT!
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Old Aug 31, 2000 | 10:08 am
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Swiss German can be difficult because it is "flexible". Germans have a Fest, in Basel it is usually spelled Fascht, and in Zurich (Zri), it is a Fscht. isch guat?
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Old Aug 31, 2000 | 10:49 am
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"United Airlines has 38 million Mileage Plus members. Of that 38 million only about 40,000 this year have acheived the very highest "1K" level."

That is not a fact. 40,000 1K's is just a guess from various members of this board. Maybe an educated guess, but a guess none the less.
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Old Aug 31, 2000 | 11:13 am
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Question: Are you a journalist or a consultant? Why is such information so important to you. Much of this is propriety to various airline companies and as such has never been revealed for competitive reasons, nor is it in the public domain for the most part. Are we doing research for you for which you will be well-paid? Sorry to be such a cynic, but this type of request for info does go beyond the normal curiosity factor. And as CATMAN has noted, our lives are quite busy and while we don't mind contributing to requests for information or ways of maximizing mileage on programs, we don't do other people's paid work, or graduate research projects.

Might I suggest going through the various airline threads and assembling some of the information you need from those discussions which have taken place, particularly on AA, BA and UA forums.

I know I will be criticized for taking this somewhat testy approach to what might otherwise be an innocent question, but...
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Old Aug 31, 2000 | 12:21 pm
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I don't have any of this info to give you that is current, but I might also suggest a call, letter or email to the offices of Randy Petersen, host of this site, InsideFlyer magazine, and www.webflyer.com

Since they deal with all FF programs, they may have what little info on this that has been revealed by the airlines.

Good Luck!
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Old Aug 31, 2000 | 1:12 pm
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Ooops,

obviously my sort of request is not very welcome to many FFs - I'm sorry. Answer: I am neither a journalist nor a consultant but do research (own purpose) as "Shareholder" mentioned. When I posted my message I did not at all have in mind, that somebody would feel like doing my work or people around me would not be working for living. But please be assured that your not doing the work I am paid for.
Honestly, I didn't mean to harm a community or offend its rules and simply suggest to close this folder and my request. I am very thankful to everybody who answered my request.

SINCERELY yours
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Old Aug 31, 2000 | 3:11 pm
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Welcome DOHO! Please, no need to apologize! We frequent travellers would also like to know the answers to those questions you have asked. However, few were able to treply for the reasons Shareholder (not Ozstamps) outlined.
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Old Aug 31, 2000 | 4:02 pm
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As a new user it is disappointing to see someone have a polite query, get only one useful answer, and a lot of other byplay so that he is now driven away. The long reply by one person Catman about what he had done all day that left him no time to answer DOHO perplexes me? Why answer at such length when it had nothing to do with the question asked and only ridiculed the new person asking? If this is a FlyerTalk "Community" is this a very friendly way to welcome new visitors?
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