Dec 18, 2019, 12:31 pm
Last edit by: wyogold
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AA potentially closing accounts due to credit card churning/churn
How to know if you're locked: (as of 12/22/2019)
- Call in to aadvantage reservations (800-882-8880) If you locked, you'll be forwarded to customer service instead of getting to the automated reservations system
- If you want to stay on the line, ask CSR if your account is locked (you tried to make a reservation but it wouldn't let you). CSR will inform you there's a note on your account and that corporate security will contact you
- Try to make a reservation for a super cheap hotel through useaamiles.com. There are 1000 miles / night hotels in New Delhi, so at worst you'll risk 1K miles. If you're locked, you'll see "Unable to process points. Please call our customer service for assistance."
So far, nobody seems to have gotten unlocked and gotten access to their miles back. Accounts with upcoming travel seem to be the ones that are getting terminated at the highest rate.
AA potentially closing accounts due to credit card churning/churn
How to know if you're locked: (as of 12/22/2019)
- Call in to aadvantage reservations (800-882-8880) If you locked, you'll be forwarded to customer service instead of getting to the automated reservations system
- If you want to stay on the line, ask CSR if your account is locked (you tried to make a reservation but it wouldn't let you). CSR will inform you there's a note on your account and that corporate security will contact you
- Try to make a reservation for a super cheap hotel through useaamiles.com. There are 1000 miles / night hotels in New Delhi, so at worst you'll risk 1K miles. If you're locked, you'll see "Unable to process points. Please call our customer service for assistance."
So far, nobody seems to have gotten unlocked and gotten access to their miles back. Accounts with upcoming travel seem to be the ones that are getting terminated at the highest rate.
AA accounts restricted (Nov/Dec 2019)
Feb 15, 2020, 8:34 am
#2611
Join Date: Dec 2017
Posts: 746
No longer relevant.
Last edited by OssianBlue; Jul 6, 2020 at 6:54 pm
Feb 15, 2020, 9:44 am
#2612
Suspended
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: DCA
Programs: UA US CO AA DL FL
Posts: 50,262
Feb 15, 2020, 9:47 am
#2613
Original Member
Join Date: May 1998
Location: Orange County, CA, USA
Programs: AA (Life Plat), Marriott (Life Titanium) and every other US program
Posts: 6,411
You misunderstood Vegas Gambler. He meant that there is no retroactive change to the maximum amount of a claim for negligence and/or breach of contract. It is just a statutory change in the maximum amount of the claim which can be obtained if you elect to put your case into small claims court.
Feb 15, 2020, 11:53 am
#2614
Join Date: May 2015
Location: LAX, BUR
Programs: AS,AA,JB, HH Gold, Starriott Titanium Elite, Hyatt Explorist, Global Entry
Posts: 1,933
A lot of people seem to be skipping this step and going straight to DOT. The DOT says the above step should be the first step. Not sure it matters at this point.
Feb 15, 2020, 1:43 pm
#2615
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Location: DCA
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You misunderstood Vegas Gambler. He meant that there is no retroactive change to the maximum amount of a claim for negligence and/or breach of contract. It is just a statutory change in the maximum amount of the claim which can be obtained if you elect to put your case into small claims court.
Will the change in the statutory limit for the court he is speaking of apply to claims arising prior to the effective date of the new limit?
Feb 15, 2020, 2:10 pm
#2616
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Join Date: May 1998
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The limit in small claims is the limit on the date you file, not the limit on when it happened.
Feb 15, 2020, 6:16 pm
#2617
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Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: DCA
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Posts: 50,262
In most states or counties the jurisdictional limits of the court are established on the day of the conduct in question and can't be retroactively changed.
I am not sure how you can make a broad-based statement about all small claims courts.
Feb 15, 2020, 6:41 pm
#2618
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: SFO
Posts: 487
maybe this is AA’s strategy. They do not want people filing cases with the DOT in droves, so they’re controlling the rate of shutdowns?
Feb 15, 2020, 8:34 pm
#2619
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 153
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Last edited by billybayswater; Jul 13, 2020 at 11:55 am
Feb 15, 2020, 9:46 pm
#2620
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Join Date: May 1998
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Your statement is, to the best of my knowledge, correct nowhere. The jurisdictional limit of a court is the limit when the matter is filed. Removal jurisdiction to Federal Court is the jurisdiction on the date the case is filed. I cannot think of a single example, anywhere in the US, where the jurisdiction of the court is based on the date of the injury rather than the date of the filing.
Feb 15, 2020, 9:48 pm
#2621
Join Date: Feb 2020
Posts: 1
Hey guys, can you please advise:
- I got 3 AA SUBs in 2019. First AA SUBs for me ever. 2 from citi AA business and 1 from barclay AA business. I shouldn't have gotten that 2nd citi business bonus, clearly.
- I recently got the barclay AA personal. All I need to do is spend $1 and pay the AF to get the bonus.
- If you were me, would put spend on the barclay AA card and get the bonus?!? I already have the card in hand... but I'm worried about the discussion above of getting 4 bonuses in 1 year and getting the shutdown.
Thoughts? Appreciate it.
- I got 3 AA SUBs in 2019. First AA SUBs for me ever. 2 from citi AA business and 1 from barclay AA business. I shouldn't have gotten that 2nd citi business bonus, clearly.
- I recently got the barclay AA personal. All I need to do is spend $1 and pay the AF to get the bonus.
- If you were me, would put spend on the barclay AA card and get the bonus?!? I already have the card in hand... but I'm worried about the discussion above of getting 4 bonuses in 1 year and getting the shutdown.
Thoughts? Appreciate it.
Feb 15, 2020, 11:03 pm
#2622
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 4,477
If I were you, I probably would not want to get any more SUB's this year. In that case if you're not shut down, you get to spend your existing miles & still enjoy the free bag for being a member with the Barclays CC. And if you get shut down anyways, you'll be glad that AA did not get to steal an extra 60K miles from that last SUB.
Feb 16, 2020, 8:41 am
#2623
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 255
I thought small claim needs to be filed at defendant's jurisdiction, meaning where AA's headquarter is located?
Feb 16, 2020, 8:53 am
#2624
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 255
Asking for DPs...
Asking for DPs...
If an account is terminated, will an award ticket booked by that account but under other's name (like his spouse) also be cancelled?
If an account is terminated, will an award ticket booked by an unaffected account (like his spouse's) but under his name/account number also be cancelled?
If an account is terminated, will an award ticket booked by that account but under other's name (like his spouse) also be cancelled?
If an account is terminated, will an award ticket booked by an unaffected account (like his spouse's) but under his name/account number also be cancelled?
Feb 16, 2020, 9:18 am
#2625
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: BOS
Programs: AA EXP, DL PM, Hyatt Diamond
Posts: 2,028
Asking for DPs...
If an account is terminated, will an award ticket booked by that account but under other's name (like his spouse) also be cancelled?
If an account is terminated, will an award ticket booked by an unaffected account (like his spouse's) but under his name/account number also be cancelled?
If an account is terminated, will an award ticket booked by that account but under other's name (like his spouse) also be cancelled?
If an account is terminated, will an award ticket booked by an unaffected account (like his spouse's) but under his name/account number also be cancelled?