Jun 8, 2015, 11:36 am
Last edit by: swag
Reimbursement times vary but seem to have improved in 2017, now about 2 weeks is most common. See this thread for details.
Starting for reservations made on or after July 23, 2017, this benefit will give you the average nightly rate on stays of 4+ nights, and will NOT include taxes.
FAQ
Will I be able to earn points on rooms booked via the Concierge?
Yes
What rates can the Concierge book?
Any rate you can book online at the hotel website should be bookable by the Concierge.
Are taxes included in the 4th night refund?
Currently yes. For reservations made on or after July 23, 2017, this will change and taxes will not be included.
How to book.
By phone: 1-561-922-0158 (concierge direct), or call the toll free number on the back of your card.
By email: Send to [email protected].
Include:
Terms & Conditions: https://www.citi.com/credit-cards/additional-info/citi.action?ID=AdditionalInfo-CitiPrestige
Starting for reservations made on or after July 23, 2017, this benefit will give you the average nightly rate on stays of 4+ nights, and will NOT include taxes.
FAQ
Will I be able to earn points on rooms booked via the Concierge?
Yes
What rates can the Concierge book?
Any rate you can book online at the hotel website should be bookable by the Concierge.
Are taxes included in the 4th night refund?
Currently yes. For reservations made on or after July 23, 2017, this will change and taxes will not be included.
How to book.
By phone: 1-561-922-0158 (concierge direct), or call the toll free number on the back of your card.
By email: Send to [email protected].
Include:
- Your name & email
- Last 4 digits of your card number
- Hotel name (plus address or link if it may be confused with a similar named property)
- Stay dates
- Number of guests in the room
- Any rate type requests (AAA, AARP, etc)
- Your hotel chain loyalty number, if applicable
Terms & Conditions: https://www.citi.com/credit-cards/additional-info/citi.action?ID=AdditionalInfo-CitiPrestige
Anybody used the Citi Prestige 4th night free hotel benefit? (Dec 2014 - Jul 22,2017)
Jan 29, 2015, 2:26 pm
#91
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Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: PVG, SFO
Programs: UA 1k, AA EXP, SPG Platinum, Hyatt Diamond
Posts: 222
Sure when I need exactly 4 nights, I use this service. And when the price is firm during special occasion like Christmas and new year eve, or room is almost sold out, CWT is like angel, which is the only way to save some money.
Jan 29, 2015, 2:51 pm
#92
Join Date: Aug 2006
Programs: SPG Gold
Posts: 162
You can't really do the math like this. You are mixing your denominators.
At hotel.com, if you stay 11 nights you pay for 10 of them. Your rebate is (1 + 10*(10%) = 2/11 = 18.18%
With the Citi benefit if you stay 4 nights you pay for 3 of them so your rebate is (1 + 3*3%) / 4 = 1.09 / 4 = 27.25%.
Obviously the number for Citi is much higher, but the downside is that it's a max -- you only get that amount if you stay exactly 4 nights. If you stay 5 nights it's 1.12 / 5 = 22.4%. If you stay 6 nights it's 1.15 / 6 = 19.16%. If you stay 7 nights it's 1.18 / 7 = 16.8%.
So the best stategy seems to be to use the benefit on nights of 4-6 nights only, and use hotel.com through a portal for any other length stay.
This also all assumes that TYP are worth 1c each, which seems low. If you have a different valuation in mind you can redo the math (it probably won't change much)
At hotel.com, if you stay 11 nights you pay for 10 of them. Your rebate is (1 + 10*(10%) = 2/11 = 18.18%
With the Citi benefit if you stay 4 nights you pay for 3 of them so your rebate is (1 + 3*3%) / 4 = 1.09 / 4 = 27.25%.
Obviously the number for Citi is much higher, but the downside is that it's a max -- you only get that amount if you stay exactly 4 nights. If you stay 5 nights it's 1.12 / 5 = 22.4%. If you stay 6 nights it's 1.15 / 6 = 19.16%. If you stay 7 nights it's 1.18 / 7 = 16.8%.
So the best stategy seems to be to use the benefit on nights of 4-6 nights only, and use hotel.com through a portal for any other length stay.
This also all assumes that TYP are worth 1c each, which seems low. If you have a different valuation in mind you can redo the math (it probably won't change much)
Jan 29, 2015, 2:56 pm
#93
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Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 10,904
You stay 11 nights:
You don't pay for one of them. That's 1 night.
You get 7% back on the 10 paid nights. That's 10*7% = 70% of a night.
You get 3% back on the card the 10 paid nights. That's 10*3% = 30% of a night.
Your total rebate is (1 + 0.7 + 0.3) / 11 = 2/11 = 18.18%
Jan 29, 2015, 3:10 pm
#94
Join Date: Aug 2006
Programs: SPG Gold
Posts: 162
No I didn't. That's 7 of the 10% that you get on 10 of the 11 nights.
You stay 11 nights:
You don't pay for one of them. That's 1 night.
You get 7% back on the 10 paid nights. That's 10*7% = 70% of a night.
You get 3% back on the card the 10 paid nights. That's 10*3% = 30% of a night.
Your total rebate is (1 + 0.7 + 0.3) / 11 = 2/11 = 18.18%
You stay 11 nights:
You don't pay for one of them. That's 1 night.
You get 7% back on the 10 paid nights. That's 10*7% = 70% of a night.
You get 3% back on the card the 10 paid nights. That's 10*3% = 30% of a night.
Your total rebate is (1 + 0.7 + 0.3) / 11 = 2/11 = 18.18%
Jan 29, 2015, 4:58 pm
#96
Join Date: Jan 2015
Programs: SPG Gold, Marriot Gold
Posts: 10
http://www.cwtvacations.com/home.aspx?search=hotels
I'm not sure what the FT policy is on posting links, but google "cwt vacations hotels"
I'm not sure what the FT policy is on posting links, but google "cwt vacations hotels"
Last edited by lovefreebreakfasts; Jan 29, 2015 at 5:57 pm Reason: spelling correction
Jan 29, 2015, 5:13 pm
#97
Join Date: Jan 2015
Programs: SPG Gold, Marriot Gold
Posts: 10
You actually pay for all 4 nights, and get a statement credit for the fourth night, so it is possible that you actually get to keep the TYP for the fourth night, possibly making citi an even better deal (this wouldn't change the 4-6 nights sweet spot though). Someone who has completed a stay and received the statement credit could better comment.
Last edited by lovefreebreakfasts; Jan 29, 2015 at 5:24 pm
Jan 29, 2015, 5:46 pm
#98
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: ORD
Programs: AA PLT
Posts: 2,781
http://www.cwtvacations.com/home.aspx?search=hotels
I'm not sure what the FT policy is on posting links, but google "cwt vactaions hotels"
I'm not sure what the FT policy is on posting links, but google "cwt vactaions hotels"
(And as long as you don't have a financial interest in what you're linking to, it's generally OK.)
Jan 29, 2015, 5:50 pm
#99
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: ORD
Programs: AA PLT
Posts: 2,781
You actually pay for all 4 nights, and get a statement credit for the fourth night, so it is possible that you actually get to keep the TYP for the fourth night, possibly making citi an even better deal (this wouldn't change the 4-6 nights sweet spot though). Someone who has completed a stay and received the statement credit could better comment.
Jan 29, 2015, 6:00 pm
#100
Join Date: Jan 2015
Programs: SPG Gold, Marriot Gold
Posts: 10
Per this post, they will credit you 3x TYP upon booking, and then remove 1X TYP upon the fourth night being refunded.
Jan 29, 2015, 7:11 pm
#101
Join Date: Jan 2015
Programs: SPG Gold, Marriot Gold
Posts: 10
Here is mastercard's luxury hotel portfolio:
http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/Mast...ld/#/1/OnePage
Presumably, these could be combined with the 4th night free benefit (although likely at a higher rate than lowest rate on the hotel's website).
http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/Mast...ld/#/1/OnePage
Presumably, these could be combined with the 4th night free benefit (although likely at a higher rate than lowest rate on the hotel's website).
Feb 2, 2015, 2:59 pm
#102
Join Date: Jan 2015
Programs: SPG Gold, Marriot Gold
Posts: 10
Apparently it seems like cwt is part of the virtuoso network as well (http://www.cwtvacations.com/content....l=virtuosoBest). Has anyone tried to use virtuoso benefits with the prestige 4th night free?
Thanks!
Thanks!
Feb 5, 2015, 1:39 pm
#103
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 794
I asked them to book at a few properties with Virtuoso rate but none of the travel specialists can do it. They said they aren't part of virtuoso. Used to be.
Another problem is they can't do 2016. They can book for you but the 4th night benefits are not renewed for 2016 just yet.
Another problem is they can't do 2016. They can book for you but the 4th night benefits are not renewed for 2016 just yet.
Feb 9, 2015, 7:20 pm
#104
Join Date: Jan 2015
Programs: SPG Gold, Marriot Gold
Posts: 10
I asked them to book at a few properties with Virtuoso rate but none of the travel specialists can do it. They said they aren't part of virtuoso. Used to be.
Another problem is they can't do 2016. They can book for you but the 4th night benefits are not renewed for 2016 just yet.
Another problem is they can't do 2016. They can book for you but the 4th night benefits are not renewed for 2016 just yet.
2016 is not a problem for me yet (I'm surprised people book stuff this far in advance!), but it sucks that you can't do it.
Feb 15, 2015, 9:25 pm
#105
Join Date: Jan 2015
Programs: Marriott Titanium and LTP, Hilton Gold, United Silver
Posts: 786
Has anybody tried this yet with Marriott? Did Marriott extend any elite benefits or elite qualifying nights for the stay?