Anybody used the Citi Prestige 4th night free hotel benefit? (Dec 2014 - Jul 22,2017)
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Jan 29, 15, 2:26 pm
#91
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Originally Posted by linglingfool
In general, but not always. You may find that Hotels.com offers rates that CWT does not, and Hotels.com has a BRG should you find something better in the future.
Sure when I need exactly 4 nights, I use this service. And when the price is firm during special occasion like Christmas and new year eve, or room is almost sold out, CWT is like angel, which is the only way to save some money.
Jan 29, 15, 2:51 pm
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Originally Posted by VegasGambler
You can't really do the math like this. You are mixing your denominators.
At hotel.com, if you stay 11 nights you pay for 10 of them. Your rebate is (1 + 10*(10%) = 2/11 = 18.18%
With the Citi benefit if you stay 4 nights you pay for 3 of them so your rebate is (1 + 3*3%) / 4 = 1.09 / 4 = 27.25%.
Obviously the number for Citi is much higher, but the downside is that it's a max -- you only get that amount if you stay exactly 4 nights. If you stay 5 nights it's 1.12 / 5 = 22.4%. If you stay 6 nights it's 1.15 / 6 = 19.16%. If you stay 7 nights it's 1.18 / 7 = 16.8%.
So the best stategy seems to be to use the benefit on nights of 4-6 nights only, and use hotel.com through a portal for any other length stay.
This also all assumes that TYP are worth 1c each, which seems low. If you have a different valuation in mind you can redo the math (it probably won't change much)
At hotel.com, if you stay 11 nights you pay for 10 of them. Your rebate is (1 + 10*(10%) = 2/11 = 18.18%
With the Citi benefit if you stay 4 nights you pay for 3 of them so your rebate is (1 + 3*3%) / 4 = 1.09 / 4 = 27.25%.
Obviously the number for Citi is much higher, but the downside is that it's a max -- you only get that amount if you stay exactly 4 nights. If you stay 5 nights it's 1.12 / 5 = 22.4%. If you stay 6 nights it's 1.15 / 6 = 19.16%. If you stay 7 nights it's 1.18 / 7 = 16.8%.
So the best stategy seems to be to use the benefit on nights of 4-6 nights only, and use hotel.com through a portal for any other length stay.
This also all assumes that TYP are worth 1c each, which seems low. If you have a different valuation in mind you can redo the math (it probably won't change much)
Jan 29, 15, 2:56 pm
#93
Join Date: Oct 2014
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Originally Posted by thorthor
you forgot the 7% cashback that you can get at hotels.com in addition to the other rebatets.
You stay 11 nights:
You don't pay for one of them. That's 1 night.
You get 7% back on the 10 paid nights. That's 10*7% = 70% of a night.
You get 3% back on the card the 10 paid nights. That's 10*3% = 30% of a night.
Your total rebate is (1 + 0.7 + 0.3) / 11 = 2/11 = 18.18%
Jan 29, 15, 3:10 pm
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Originally Posted by VegasGambler
No I didn't. That's 7 of the 10% that you get on 10 of the 11 nights.
You stay 11 nights:
You don't pay for one of them. That's 1 night.
You get 7% back on the 10 paid nights. That's 10*7% = 70% of a night.
You get 3% back on the card the 10 paid nights. That's 10*3% = 30% of a night.
Your total rebate is (1 + 0.7 + 0.3) / 11 = 2/11 = 18.18%
You stay 11 nights:
You don't pay for one of them. That's 1 night.
You get 7% back on the 10 paid nights. That's 10*7% = 70% of a night.
You get 3% back on the card the 10 paid nights. That's 10*3% = 30% of a night.
Your total rebate is (1 + 0.7 + 0.3) / 11 = 2/11 = 18.18%
Jan 29, 15, 4:14 pm
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Originally Posted by maxswanson
If hotels.com has the better rate and hotel website do not have, you can get BRG discount from hotel group.
Jan 29, 15, 4:58 pm
#96
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Originally Posted by linglingfool
Maybe I missed it, but which site is that?
Originally Posted by linglingfool
Maybe I missed it, but which site is that?
Last edited by lovefreebreakfasts; Jan 29, 15 at 5:57 pm Reason: spelling correction
Jan 29, 15, 5:13 pm
#97
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Originally Posted by VegasGambler
With the Citi benefit if you stay 4 nights you pay for 3 of them so your rebate is (1 + 3*3%) / 4 = 1.09 / 4 = 27.25%.
Last edited by lovefreebreakfasts; Jan 29, 15 at 5:24 pm
Jan 29, 15, 5:46 pm
#98
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Originally Posted by lovefreebreakfasts
http://www.cwtvacations.com/home.aspx?search=hotels
I'm not sure what the FT policy is on posting links, but google "cwt vactaions hotels"
I'm not sure what the FT policy is on posting links, but google "cwt vactaions hotels"
(And as long as you don't have a financial interest in what you're linking to, it's generally OK.)
Jan 29, 15, 5:50 pm
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Originally Posted by lovefreebreakfasts
You actually pay for all 4 nights, and get a statement credit for the fourth night, so it is possible that you actually get to keep the TYP for the fourth night, possibly making citi an even better deal (this wouldn't change the 4-6 nights sweet spot though). Someone who has completed a stay and received the statement credit could better comment.
Jan 29, 15, 6:00 pm
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Originally Posted by linglingfool
Thanks.
(And as long as you don't have a financial interest in what you're linking to, it's generally OK.)
(And as long as you don't have a financial interest in what you're linking to, it's generally OK.)
Originally Posted by linglingfool
Per this post, they will credit you 3x TYP upon booking, and then remove 1X TYP upon the fourth night being refunded.
Jan 29, 15, 7:11 pm
#101
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Here is mastercard's luxury hotel portfolio:
http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/Mast...ld/#/1/OnePage
Presumably, these could be combined with the 4th night free benefit (although likely at a higher rate than lowest rate on the hotel's website).
http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/Mast...ld/#/1/OnePage
Presumably, these could be combined with the 4th night free benefit (although likely at a higher rate than lowest rate on the hotel's website).
Feb 2, 15, 2:59 pm
#102
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Apparently it seems like cwt is part of the virtuoso network as well (http://www.cwtvacations.com/content....l=virtuosoBest). Has anyone tried to use virtuoso benefits with the prestige 4th night free?
Thanks!
Thanks!
Feb 5, 15, 1:39 pm
#103
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I asked them to book at a few properties with Virtuoso rate but none of the travel specialists can do it. They said they aren't part of virtuoso. Used to be.
Another problem is they can't do 2016. They can book for you but the 4th night benefits are not renewed for 2016 just yet.
Another problem is they can't do 2016. They can book for you but the 4th night benefits are not renewed for 2016 just yet.
Feb 9, 15, 7:20 pm
#104
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Originally Posted by 5DMarkIIguy
I asked them to book at a few properties with Virtuoso rate but none of the travel specialists can do it. They said they aren't part of virtuoso. Used to be.
Another problem is they can't do 2016. They can book for you but the 4th night benefits are not renewed for 2016 just yet.
Another problem is they can't do 2016. They can book for you but the 4th night benefits are not renewed for 2016 just yet.
2016 is not a problem for me yet (I'm surprised people book stuff this far in advance!), but it sucks that you can't do it.
Feb 15, 15, 9:25 pm
#105
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Has anybody tried this yet with Marriott? Did Marriott extend any elite benefits or elite qualifying nights for the stay?
