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SEE NEW THREAD - 50K AA Cards


As of Sunday August 25, 2013:
Reports indicate personal cards can no longer be rapidly churned.

Click HERE to review the previous thread on this topic.

Recommended Application Procedure:
Clear cache and cookies prior to applying or use an incognito or private browsing session to apply. Opening multiple different apps in different windows or tabs or failing to clear cookies/cache has resulted in people receiving a lesser offer.

For information on the Executive version of this card, with $450 annual fee, not waived, see: Up to 100k miles Citi Executive AAdvantage offers

MOST CURRENT 50K LINKS:

Citi Personal and Business:50K miles & two Admirals Club one-day passes after $3000 spend in 3 months, $95 fee waived first year.

Citi AA Platinum Personal Mastercard, 50,000 miles after $3k spend in 3 months. $95 annual fee, waived first year. Landing page available here. This is a CHIP and Signature card.

Landing page for 50K Business and Personal MC requires $3K spend in 3 months. $95 annual fee, waived first year. This page leads to the following application pages:
Landing page for 50K Business and Personal MC after $3K spend in 3 months. $95 annual fee, waived first year. This page leads to the following application pages:
Landing page for 50K Business and Personal MC after $3K spend in 3 months. $95 annual fee, waived first year. This page leads to the following application pages:
Landing page for 50K Business MC after $3K spend in 3 months. $95 annual fee, waived first year. This page leads to this application page.

OTHER PERSONAL CARDS

Citi Platinum Select Mastercard. 30,000 miles after $1k spend in 3 months. $95 annual fee, waived first year. Up to $100 statement credit for AA purchases. Landing page available here.

Citi Platinum Select Mastercard. 30,000 miles after $1k spend in 3 months. $95 annual fee, waived first year.

Citi Gold Mastercard. 25,000 miles after $750 spend in 3 months. $50 annual fee, waived first year. Landing page available here

If you are already a Citigold customer, read this post from the Miles Professor about another 50K offer from your branch office for the American Airlines credit card.

OTHER BUSINESS CARDS

Citi Business MasterCard. 40,000 miles after $3k spend in 3 months. $95 annual fee, waived first year. Landing page available here.

Citi Business Mastercard. 35,000 miles after $1.5k spend in 3 months.

Citi Business Mastercard. 30,000 miles after $1k spend in 3 months. $95 annual fee, waived first year. Landing page available here.

Citi Business Mastercard. 30,000 miles after $1k spend in 3 months. $95 annual fee, waived first year. Up to $100 statement credit for AA purchases. Landing page available here.


Citibank Contacts/Resources (Please add the others that you know)
  • Application status: https://www.accountonline.com/cards/...?screenID=3187
  • (800) 695-5171 – Personal Application Status and Reconsideration Line with live rep
  • (800) 763-9795 – General Personal Application Inquiries with live rep
  • (800) 645-7240 – Business Application Status and Reconsideration Line, dial option 3 then option 1 for application status
  • (800) 288-4653 – Business Application Status and Reconsideration Line, dial option 3 then option 1 for application status
  • (866) 606-2787 – General Application and Account Questions with live rep
  • (888) 201-4523 – Application status
  • (866) 606-2961 – Reconsideration Line.
  • Twitter : @AskCiti. Very powerful tool.
  • Executive Office - useful for getting a more empowered agent for reconsideration purposes: CitiBank Executive Review Department, P.O. Box 6000, Sioux Falls, SD 57117

FAQ
  1. Are these AA cards churnable?
  2. What are the most current time-restriction rules in applying for all Citi cards?
  3. Do I need to close existing cards before applying?
  4. When should I close existing Citi accounts?
  5. Can I apply for a business card if I don’t have a business?
  6. Can I buy Visa gift cards to meet my minimum spend?
  7. Do I get 10% back when redeeming miles for awards?
  8. Do I have to use my own AAdvantage number on applications?
  9. There is nothing on the application page stating the bonus miles. How do I know what I will be getting?
  10. When will my bonus miles post?
  11. I met the minimum spend. Why does my statement say "Miles Reported to AA: 0"?
  12. Can I cancel a card using secure messaging?
  13. I activated the card online and got a message about this card replacing an old card. What does that mean?
  14. Which credit bureau does Citi pull and can I force them to use a different one?

1. Are these AA cards churnable?
Yes and No. The general rules are:
  • Personal AA cards: As of August 25, 2013 all linked personal AA cards in this thread can be churned only after Citi decides that you are no longer an existing cardmember. This usually occurs between 12 and 26 months after your last successful AA personal card approval of any type including AA Executive card(s). If you want both a Platinum card and an Executive AA card and are eligible under the 12-26 month rule, get the Platinum card first or the Executive card will restart the clock. Although it is not a hard-and-fast rule, 18 months after previous approval is the most common. YMMV. You do not need to cancel old personal cards.
    • Note: You cannot circumvent this rule by applying for a card type different from your previous Citi AA card. If your last personal AA card was a Visa, the waiting period for your next personal AA card will be the same regardless of whether you apply for a Visa, MC, or Amex.

  • Business AA cards: have been churnable repeatedly by some people without restriction other than the general Citi application rules. Apply once every 91-95 days. For unknown reasons, some other people have been unable to churn business cards at all. Also, some (but not all) people need to completely cancel their previous business card (ie, cancel both the card account and the associated master account) before they can apply for another business card.

    Note: If you encounter difficulty in obtaining a Citi AA business card after holding one before, it may because of the unusual way Citi sets up business accounts. The business account per se has its own master number; like a standard MC/Visa, this master account number is 16 digits. In addition, each card on the account has its own 16-digit card number. Each of these numbers, including the number for the primary cardholder, is different from the master account number.

    Sometimes, when you call to close your card account, all the card numbers are canceled but the master account remains open. When this happens, subsequent applications for a business card may encounter difficulty. Online, there should be a dropdown of accounts under your business login; the number that match your card number is your card account, the number that does not match your card number is your master account. When cancelling, ask to cancel both accounts, giving the last 4 digts of each (as shown in that dropdown).


2. What are the most current time-restriction rules in applying for all Citi cards?
  • Only 1 Citi application of any kind per week (8 days to be safe).
  • No more than 2 Citi applications of any kind in 60 days (65 days to be safe).
  • No more than 1 Citi business application in 90 days (95 to be safe). This does not override the rules above.

While the day limits are a little flexible by a few days either way and YMMV, the rules themselves are not flexible. Note: In applying the rules above, count all Citi applications, including denials and/or applications for non-AA cards.

Mixed type Example:
Day 1 60K HHonors Visa
Day 9 or later 50K Personal Platinum Visa
Day 66 or later 50K Business #1
Day 74 or later 60K Executive
Day 161 or later 50K Business #2
18 Months, 74 days or later 50K Personal Platinum Visa

Not sure what day you applied? The date is written year, month, day in the application number: 201402280000 means you applied on Feb 28, 2014


3. Do I need to close existing cards before applying?
No. There is no requirement that you close previous personal accounts. People have reported having 4 or more of the exact same card. However, many people have reported problems getting AA Business cards if they have an open Business account.


4. When should I close existing Citi accounts?
This is a matter of personal preference. Citi cards can be closed immediately after receiving a bonus and paying off the balance. There are no verifiable reports of Citi clawing back miles (exception - miles were clawed back for returned merchandise around November 2011).

Reasons to keep accounts open:
  • Having large credit lines improves your utilization percentage.
  • Maintaining old cards improves average age of cards.
  • Credit lines can be moved from old cards to new cards.
  • Anecdotal evidence suggests that Citi counts the credit lines of recently-closed accounts for 3-6 months against your total available credit.
  • You can receive retention offers once every 6 months per card. See this thread for details on the latest retention offers.

Reasons to close accounts:
  • Having a large amount of available credit with Citi will eventually reduce your chances of instant approval. Your application will automatically be reviewed if your CL's total 75K or more. This may also result in a large disparity between existing account CL's and new CL's, such as 20K, 20K and 1K for a new card, as an example.
  • There is little incentive to pay an annual fee if it is not waived.
  • The annual fee on Business cards is rarely waived.
  • Having a large number of open Citi cards will show up on your credit report and may affect non-Citi applications as well as the overall age of your accounts.


5. Can I apply for a business card if I don’t have a business?
Anyone can apply for a business card. You do not need a registered business with an EIN. If you do not have a business with an EIN or with bills/accounts in the business name, you can apply using your name as the business. The three possibilities are that: 1. You could be approved unconditionally, 2. You could be asked to fax a couple of bills or accounts (water, electricity, gas, cable, or phone bills, bank accounts, etc.) in the name of the business to Citi, or 3. You could be required to fill out and send a 4506-T tax form. Whatever you do do not make up income etc. about the business. Plenty of people have been issued cards for businesses with $0 annual revenue, 1-5 employees, and 0 years in business.


6. Can I buy Visa gift cards to meet my minimum spend?
Purchases from banks are almost always coded as a cash advance regardless of what they are for. Purchases from stores, e.g. CVS, are almost always coded as a purchase.
If you are concerned about it, it’s recommended to send a secure message Citi and have them set your Cash Advance limit to zero. Phone CSRs often say they can not do this.


7. Do I get 10% back when redeeming miles for awards?
It depends. First, the rebate program (which began in April 2012) applies only to holders of these cards:
  • Citi Platinum Select AAdvantage Visa Signature
  • Citi Platinum Select AAdvantage World MasterCard
  • Citi Platinum Select AAdvantage World Elite MasterCard
  • Citi Select AAdvantage American Express
It does not apply to the Citi Gold World MasterCard, Citi Executive products, or some of the Citi Business cards.

Also, the maximum rebate for any cardholder in a single calendar year is 10,000 miles. Having more than one qualifying Citi AA card will not allow you to receive a larger rebate; the restriction applies per AAdvantage account.

For more on the 10% rebate benefit, see Citi 10% miles back / rebate for reward redemption.


8. Do I have to use my own AAdvantage number on applications?
Yes. The name on the card application must match the name on the AAdvantage account. You cannot apply for multiple cards for different people and use the same AAdvantage account number. AA does not care or even know how many Citi accounts you have so there is no harm in having your AAdvantage account number associated with multiple cards in your name. If you forget to add your AAdvantage account number to your application, an AAdvantage account in your name will be created and can later be merged with your existing account by calling AA.


9. There is nothing on the application page stating the bonus miles. How do I know what I will be getting?
You need to have faith in the people here if you want to maximize your miles. The people on this board constantly apply for these cards and report back what they are told are the benefits and what they actually receive. The way Citi works is that if you are approved for a card, you will get the bonus associated with the link you applied under as long as you make the minimum spend. It does not matter if you already had the card or anything else. If you are approved - then you get the bonus. The two exceptions to this are: 1. If you fail to clear your cache and accidentally load a cached application, you get the miles associated with that application and 2. Some people have recently succeeded in 'bumping the bonus' by contacting Citi and requesting a match to a 50K offer after applying for a 40K card. If you don't feel like trusting in the experiences of others, then apply for an offer with a landing page.


10. When will my bonus miles post?
Two working days after the date of the statement containing the charge that takes you across the spend threshold. It posts overnight, it'll be there when you check your AAdvantage account in the morning.


11. I met the minimum spend. Why does my statement say "Miles Reported to AA: 0"?
No one knows exactly why this is happening to some people (Citi blames AA, AA blames Citi, and both blame the merger). It supposedly has something to do with the time it takes them to properly link your AAdvantage number to your card. There are two ways to deal with this:
  • Wait 1-2 statement periods, and see if the points post on their own. Per Citi, it can take this long for the accounts to link.
  • Call AA (1-800-882-8880) and open a case about it. Most people have had their miles post within 2 weeks of doing this.

For ongoing discussion, see Some AA Citi Card miles not transferred to AAdvantage accounts [Q3 2013 - Q1 2014]


12. Can I cancel a card using secure messaging?
Yes, assuming you have set up the credit card in your Citi account. Quick and easy.


13. I activated the card online and got a message about this card replacing an old card. What does that mean?
When activating cards online, Citi normally displays the text:

"This account replaces your old account, which is now closed. Statements for your old account will be available for up to 6 months. Your current account summary and unbilled transactions are now listed under your new account number."
This is normal and is supposed to be displayed when activating a replacement card but it seems to display even when activating a brand new card. This is nothing to worry about.


14. Which credit bureau does Citi pull and can I force them to use a different one?
Citi appears to use Experian most frequently, followed by Equifax. For some people they pull both. It depends on where you are located. You can check the Credit Boards database to see where card issuers have pulled recently.

For the most part, freezing Experian, or another bureau, will not cause Citi to pull a different bureau. They will almost certainly require you to unfreeze the bureau they wish to pull or deny your application. Some people have been successful providing the PIN but others have not. Mostly, freezing a credit bureau in an attempt to force Citi to pull a different one seems to waste time, money, and effort for little result. But YMMV.

For one person's experiences with various card issuers, check here.


For rules and info on any offers that include Admirals club passes or statement credits, see here.
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Old Nov 9, 2013, 12:04 pm
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Originally Posted by crazyforcats87
What would you advise that I do?
(1) Force yourself to calm down. Freaking out is when you make mistakes.
(2) Go ask the people in the CVS thread in the Manufactured Spend forum section. They'll know more about issues with VRs. (On what else would you be spending exactly $1000 at CVS?)
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Old Nov 9, 2013, 12:07 pm
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Noob question... Is it possible to open the Citi Mastercard 50k Bonus and the Citi Visa ( both personal) and get the 100k bonus after a total of 6k spend? What's the time frame to open both if it's possible?
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Old Nov 9, 2013, 12:11 pm
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Originally Posted by binarytrees
Noob question... Is it possible to open the Citi Mastercard 50k Bonus and the Citi Visa ( both personal) and get the 100k bonus after a total of 6k spend? What's the time frame to open both if it's possible?
Noob, have you read the Wiki of this thread? Suggest you read it thoroughly and understand what it says. It would help you not making noob mistakes.
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Old Nov 9, 2013, 12:14 pm
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Originally Posted by Happy
Noob, have you read the Wiki of this thread? Suggest you read it thoroughly and understand what it says. It would help you not making noob mistakes.
I'm assuming the answer is yes:

Only 1 Citi application of any kind per week (8 days to be safe).
No more than 2 Citi applications of any kind in 60 days (65 days to be safe).

But do they honor the 100k total points with 6k spend?
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Old Nov 9, 2013, 12:49 pm
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Originally Posted by binarytrees
I'm assuming the answer is yes:

Only 1 Citi application of any kind per week (8 days to be safe).
No more than 2 Citi applications of any kind in 60 days (65 days to be safe).

But do they honor the 100k total points with 6k spend?
If you approved and meet the spend you will always get the bonus when it comes to citi cards.
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Old Nov 9, 2013, 12:52 pm
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Originally Posted by slhansen219
Update... it's been 6 days and still no update so I finally called the application phone # from wiki. After asking several question, name, ss#, simple things, I was put on hold 3 times. The agent finally came back saying she would have to send a SSA89 form which he would have to email back along with a copy of his SS card. (for his protection). This is his FIRST application for a business card. He does have an AA Plat card since August.

Any suggestions? I doubt he will do it.

OMG!!!! Maybe I typed in the wrong SS#!! Sounds like could be the problem!! I'm such an idiot!! Now it'll take a million years for the SSA to respond. Do you think I could just submit another application?? They couldn't have pulled his credit on the wrong SS#, but I did give them the correct social security # during the phone conversation.

HELP!!!

Can anyone help me? My husband can't find his SS card. I'm thinking about just reapplying on Monday, and if that doesn't work... Just wait the 95+ days and try again.
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Old Nov 9, 2013, 12:55 pm
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Originally Posted by binarytrees
I'm assuming the answer is yes:

Only 1 Citi application of any kind per week (8 days to be safe).
No more than 2 Citi applications of any kind in 60 days (65 days to be safe).

But do they honor the 100k total points with 6k spend?
No. You would most likely not be approved for the 2nd personal card. Though miracle sometimes does happen.

Read again on the AA card nuance, in particular the PERSONAL cards. (The business card info is not accurate any more based on the latest data. To get up to speed, read the past 5 to 10 pages on what is the latest happening on Biz cards and not rely on the outdated info in Wiki.)

Read the part about the "for first time user only" clause and how long it takes for you to become a first time user again after your real first time.
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Old Nov 9, 2013, 2:55 pm
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Originally Posted by slhansen219
Update... it's been 6 days and still no update so I finally called the application phone # from wiki. After asking several question, name, ss#, simple things, I was put on hold 3 times. The agent finally came back saying she would have to send a SSA89 form which he would have to email back along with a copy of his SS card. (for his protection). This is his FIRST application for a business card. He does have an AA Plat card since August.

Any suggestions? I doubt he will do it.

OMG!!!! Maybe I typed in the wrong SS#!! Sounds like could be the problem!! I'm such an idiot!! Now it'll take a million years for the SSA to respond. Do you think I could just submit another application?? They couldn't have pulled his credit on the wrong SS#, but I did give them the correct social security # during the phone conversation.

HELP!!!
Originally Posted by slhansen219
Can anyone help me? My husband can't find his SS card. I'm thinking about just reapplying on Monday, and if that doesn't work... Just wait the 95+ days and try again.
Sometimes Citi asks for further documentation. Applying again at this point would be a denial because of 2 business apps within the 90+ day window, and it may or may not come with another credit pull. You said you gave them the correct SS# over the phone. Assume they have it.

IMHO, your husband needs to find his SS card regardless. That is the bigger issue here. If he can't find it, it can take a while to get a new card through the SS administration. If it is truly lost, you might want to go ahead and start that process.

It sounds like you are playing mind games with yourself over this. The only people that can answer these questions are Citi and you. If you have more questions about the process, call Citi and ask. If you really want the card, then provide the documentation. This is actually a simple situation.
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Old Nov 9, 2013, 3:10 pm
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I would also add that, on top of double-check the info you put in, you should take a screen shot of your application at each step - this way you can look back on exactly what you have input instead of worrying this and that.

Jeanie is right, there is no point to resubmit another application now. It is a sure denial so why bother?

Go thru the process as Citi told you and hope for the best. There is nothing others can suggest or help you - only you and Citi and sort this out.

I agree jeanie's suggestion that your husband needs to find his SS card. If it is indeed lost, get a replacement ASAP.
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Old Nov 9, 2013, 3:38 pm
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Originally Posted by MDtR-Chicago
(1) Force yourself to calm down. Freaking out is when you make mistakes.
(2) Go ask the people in the CVS thread in the Manufactured Spend forum section. They'll know more about issues with VRs. (On what else would you be spending exactly $1000 at CVS?)

Unfortunately, people without health insurance can run up a lot more than $1000 at a pharmacy pretty quickly for a variety of health problems. Hopefully, it is Manufactured Spend.
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Old Nov 9, 2013, 3:56 pm
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Originally Posted by jeanie
Sometimes Citi asks for further documentation. Applying again at this point would be a denial because of 2 business apps within the 90+ day window, and it may or may not come with another credit pull. You said you gave them the correct SS# over the phone. Assume they have it.

IMHO, your husband needs to find his SS card regardless. That is the bigger issue here. If he can't find it, it can take a while to get a new card through the SS administration. If it is truly lost, you might want to go ahead and start that process.

It sounds like you are playing mind games with yourself over this. The only people that can answer these questions are Citi and you. If you have more questions about the process, call Citi and ask. If you really want the card, then provide the documentation. This is actually a simple situation.
Originally Posted by Happy
I would also add that, on top of double-check the info you put in, you should take a screen shot of your application at each step - this way you can look back on exactly what you have input instead of worrying this and that.

Jeanie is right, there is no point to resubmit another application now. It is a sure denial so why bother?

Go thru the process as Citi told you and hope for the best. There is nothing others can suggest or help you - only you and Citi and sort this out.

I agree jeanie's suggestion that your husband needs to find his SS card. If it is indeed lost, get a replacement ASAP.
Thanks for the advice. I did take a PDF of the final doc before submission, but it showed ***-**-####. It's the middle digits I think I messed up. I'll ask my husband to keep looking for his card.

If he can't find it, do you think it would be ok to wait the 95+ days and try again or do you think he'll be flagged as a possible fraud? He'll never churn, this will be a 1 time thing for him.
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Old Nov 9, 2013, 4:29 pm
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Originally Posted by slhansen219
If he can't find it, do you think it would be ok to wait the 95+ days and try again or do you think he'll be flagged as a possible fraud? He'll never churn, this will be a 1 time thing for him.

No one here can answer that. There are a lot of different factors in addition to credit score that determine credit worthiness, and only Citi ultimately knows the criteria they use. For all we know, the Citi fraud department randomly pulls a certain number of apps to request more info and confirm data.

There are a few rules that Citi seems to use like the amount of time between apps, but most of it seems to be individualized so YMMV.

I know that you are not looking to churn business cards, but it really cracks me up on this board how something happens to one or two people, and then posters try to turn it into a new 'rule' for everyone.

My advice is always not to apply if you can't handle a denial. Your husband could be instantly approved, or they could ask for documentation again.

I did an internet search because the situation with your husband's SS card made me curious. When a SS card is lost, the person has to go in person to the SS office with proof of citizenship and identity. After documents are verified, it takes up to 10 days to issue a new SS card and it is then sent through the mail. Personally, I keep a photocopy/scan in my files and put the original card itself in a safe deposit box.
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Old Nov 9, 2013, 6:01 pm
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Originally Posted by jeanie
I did an internet search because the situation with your husband's SS card made me curious. When a SS card is lost, the person has to go in person to the SS office with proof of citizenship and identity. After documents are verified, it takes up to 10 days to issue a new SS card and it is then sent through the mail.
I have had to do this and it's really VERY easy. They even give you a receipt on the spot that might be good enough for Citi.

Wasting a half hour at the SSA office will be, by far, the easiest way to deal with this.
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Old Nov 9, 2013, 6:08 pm
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Thanks Jeanie & MDtR-Chicago

I have a scan of mine, but not of his. As it turns out, I can't find mine either so guess we'll both just go get one next week. At least the forms are fillable PDF forms and the office isn't too far. Misery loves company, so we'll just bring our iPads and wait. I really do think I put the wrong middle numbers in though because when they we asking for his ss#, I was surprised because I thought the 2 #s were the same. Glad it only takes 10 days to get a new card. Thanks for all of your help.

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Old Nov 9, 2013, 8:45 pm
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Originally Posted by SeeBuyFly
There's still time for you to read the wiki. In particular, you might take a look at FAQ #9.
I did, several times, still don't see the answer without wasting a hard pull.

Originally Posted by KennyBSAT
For datapoints, look at the first few days after Aug 25. Attempts to get lower level cards (after recently getting Plat cards) at that time were not successful. Generally, Citi seems to be tightening up, so I think you would be denied.
Thank you, that's what I was looking for. I'll go back to around that date and look for datapoints, as well as current ones.
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