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Old May 17, 2013, 11:04 pm
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  1. What are the most current working links?
  2. Is this card churnable?
  3. How frequently can I apply for these cards?
  4. Do I have to close my previous card before reapplying?
  5. I got the 60K card and bonus but when I finished the spend on my second 60K card I did not get the bonus. What happened?

[1] What are the most current working links?

There is a standard offer for 50K points after $1K spend in 4 months. (No landing page is available for this offer; lnik taken from wiki for http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/citi-...amex-citi.html.)

There are no known 60K offers available. The most recent one expired in late September 2014.

[2] Is this card churnable?
In the past, this card has been easily churnable. However, in December 2014 Citi began inserting language into some applications and landing pages disqualifying current Hilton Visa cardholders & requiring an 18-month wait from the date of the previous card's cancellation. The application link listed above does not include this restriction, and FTers have confirmed that they have been approved through this application despite being current or recent holders of another Citi Hilton card.

[3] How frequently can I apply for these cards?
You can only apply for ONE Citi card in a week or TWO in two months (60 days). To be safe, it is frequently suggested to wait 8+ days between ANY two Citi applications and 65+ days until your third Citi application of ANY kind. These are rolling dates, so you have to wait at least 60 days (65+) from your second application to your 4th applications, and so forth.

If math is not your strong suit, you can use: http://www.timeanddate.com/date/duration.html.

Example:
Day 0 - Citi HHonors Card #1
Day 8 - Citi AA Personal Card
Day 65 - Citi AA Business Card
Day 73 - Citi HHonors Card #2
Day 130 - Citi TY Card

[4] Do I have to close my previous card before reapplying?
Not if you use the application link above. As stated above, in December 2014 Citi began introducing new application pages requiring an 18-month wait since cancellation of the prior card.

Note that when you close an account, Citi may not "free up" the credit limit from that card for as long as 6 months. So if you're going to apply within 6 months, it's better to not cancel beforehand.

[5] I got the 60K card and bonus but when I finished the spend on my second 60K card I did not get the bonus. What happened?
There appears to be a problem with Citi crediting you with both bonuses but Hilton not crediting the second bonus because their system sees it as a duplicate.

You need to open up a case, preferably with Hilton, and explain that you have two separate cards (feel free to explain one is for business and one for personal if they ask why you have multiple cards and you feel like explaining). You also need to diligently check back with them and make sure that they do not close the case as you already got the bonus.

This is very much a YMMV situation. Depending on who you talk to and where, this can be a relatively short process or a particularly unpleasant and long one. Best advice: Be nice to the CSRs and get them on your side or HUACA until you find someone useful.

For some people it may be worth getting the 50K card instead, possibly trying to "bump the bonus" to 60K and getting it as a 10K adjustment instead.
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Old Jul 11, 2012, 5:15 am
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I was wondering if any of these HH citi cards have FOREX fees?

We are headed to the far reaches of the universe to stay at a Hilton on points but I think it's always a good idea to have a HH card when there. But not for % fees, so if it does charge I will just use my BA card which does not.

Any info welcomed. Thanks

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Old Jul 11, 2012, 7:28 am
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Originally Posted by Marathon Man
I was wondering if any of these HH citi cards have FOREX fees?

We are headed to the far reaches of the universe to stay at a Hilton on points but I think it's always a good idea to have a HH card when there. But not for % fees, so if it does charge I will just use my BA card which does not.

Any info welcomed. Thanks

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CITI
Annual Fee
None
Transaction Fees
• Balance Transfer
Either $5 or 3% of the amount of each transfer, whichever is greater.
Cash Advance
Either $10 or 5% of the amount of each cash advance, whichever is greater.
• Foreign Purchase Transaction
3% of each purchase transaction in US dollars.

AMEX REGULAR Fees
Annual Membership Fee $0
Transaction Fees
Balance Transfer
Cash Advance
ForeignTransaction
Either $5 or 3% of the amount of each transfer, whichever is greater.
Either $5 or 3% of the amount of each cash advance, whichever is greater.
2.7% of each transaction after conversion to US dollars.

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Old Jul 11, 2012, 7:42 am
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Originally Posted by crzn
CITI
Annual Fee
None
Transaction Fees
• Balance Transfer
Either $5 or 3% of the amount of each transfer, whichever is greater.
Cash Advance
Either $10 or 5% of the amount of each cash advance, whichever is greater.
• Foreign Purchase Transaction
3% of each purchase transaction in US dollars.

AMEX REGULAR Fees
Annual Membership Fee $0
Transaction Fees
Balance Transfer
Cash Advance
ForeignTransaction
Either $5 or 3% of the amount of each transfer, whichever is greater.
Either $5 or 3% of the amount of each cash advance, whichever is greater.
2.7% of each transaction after conversion to US dollars.

thanks
bummer

will be bringing the cap one visa and the BA visa. Cant remember if any other Chase (like Sapphire) has no Forex but whatever. I also have USAA bank to stave off ATM fees on both ends. I have notified banks of travel as well
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Old Jul 11, 2012, 7:54 am
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Originally Posted by scwam
This is true. I did exactly this and was confirmed 50k on each. If you got otherwise you didn't clean out your cache/cookies or made 2 apps under the same browser type.
When I first reported receiving approval for 2 of the same HHonors card in November 2011, I used the same browser and accidentally submitted 2 apps because the first app resulted in an error message. (The 2nd app also resulted in an error message.) Both apps were approved.

I then submitted 2 more apps, one for the same HHonors card and one for another card. Both went to review and were declined. I thought that was the end of it, only to receive 2 HHonors cards in the mail about 5 days later.

As always, your experiences may vary.
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Old Jul 11, 2012, 8:03 am
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Originally Posted by LowFlyOver
I then submitted 2 more apps, one for the same HHonors card and one for another card. Both went to review and were declined. I thought that was the end of it, only to receive 2 HHonors cards in the mail about 5 days later.

As always, your experiences may vary.

I got a CITI AA Visa card, and they told me they were going to move 10K credit limit from another AA card I had (MC); but in fact they didn't.

So I guess they change their minds. But that sounds a bit strange.
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Old Jul 11, 2012, 11:23 am
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Was Planning to use as part of a churn. Just to confirm..there is no mention about the points anywhere in Citi's app page. right ? you just apply and hope it turns out with 50K points. Please advise
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Old Jul 11, 2012, 11:30 am
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Originally Posted by grlmopz
Right after applying in this manner and being denied the second card, I followed the same steps for my wife. She got through to step 5 for both applications. She actually has more cards with Citi than I do: 2x AA + 2x Thank You versus 2x AA + 1x Thank You. Bizarre.
To follow up this story. One card arrived today in each of our names. I figure that my second card (Step 3) was denied, but it might well be that my wife's (Step 5) was, as well.
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Old Jul 11, 2012, 11:45 am
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Originally Posted by lbotez
I got a CITI AA Visa card, and they told me they were going to move 10K credit limit from another AA card I had (MC); but in fact they didn't.

So I guess they change their minds. But that sounds a bit strange.
One time, I got the same 5K limit moved over to 2 new cards. So some of Citi's systems are not perfect. That's why we have this opportunity, right? http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...ilies/wink.gif
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Old Jul 11, 2012, 1:07 pm
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Are people still getting the 50k points from the apps that have no mention of the 50k points anywhere?
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Old Jul 11, 2012, 1:17 pm
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Originally Posted by Superorb
Are people still getting the 50k points from the apps that have no mention of the 50k points anywhere?
I bet they are. Otherwise, you'd be hearing that they aren't.
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Old Jul 11, 2012, 1:27 pm
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Originally Posted by mnscout
I bet they are. Otherwise, you'd be hearing that they aren't.
I haven't heard either way so i just wanted to make sure.
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Old Jul 11, 2012, 1:30 pm
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Originally Posted by Marathon Man
I was wondering if any of these HH citi cards have FOREX fees?
Originally Posted by Marathon Man
Originally Posted by crzn
CITI
Transaction Fees
• Foreign Purchase Transaction
3% of each purchase transaction in US dollars.

AMEX REGULAR Fees
2.7% of each transaction after conversion to US dollars.
bummer

will be bringing the cap one visa and the BA visa. Cant remember if any other Chase (like Sapphire) has no Forex but whatever. I also have USAA bank to stave off ATM fees on both ends. I have notified banks of travel as well
No need to either wonder or remember. A list of known cards with 0% forex is maintained in the first post of this sticky from the Credit Cards forum:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/credi...tion-fees.html

On that list: The Chase Sapphire Preferred, but not the lesser Sapphire.

Not on the list: Any HHonors card.
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Old Jul 11, 2012, 2:07 pm
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Originally Posted by Superorb
Are people still getting the 50k points from the apps that have no mention of the 50k points anywhere?
I got 40K from each. (Applied late May / early June) Posted about it here and DID NOT CALL to ask about the 50K. I am happy with 40K X2 and will be ready to hit this again when the time is right. I used the 2 browser trick and used the most recent app page on this thread as of late May. I guess the best possible result is 50K X2, followed by 40K X2 and then the possible denial of one or both apps.
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Old Jul 11, 2012, 3:03 pm
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Originally Posted by CruzinAway
I got 40K from each. (Applied late May / early June) Posted about it here and DID NOT CALL to ask about the 50K. I am happy with 40K X2 and will be ready to hit this again when the time is right. I used the 2 browser trick and used the most recent app page on this thread as of late May. I guess the best possible result is 50K X2, followed by 40K X2 and then the possible denial of one or both apps.
I did the 2-Browser trick for two 50k apps and got the Pending notice for both. This is for my wife, I'll do my own next month.
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Old Jul 11, 2012, 3:55 pm
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Originally Posted by grlmopz
To follow up this story. One card arrived today in each of our names. I figure that my second card (Step 3) was denied, but it might well be that my wife's (Step 5) was, as well.
You should / would get either a email or an actual letter to inform your declined applications with the reasons that the declinations are based on. At least that is what is practiced in the past.
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