Go Back  FlyerTalk Forums > Destinations > Asia > China
Reload this Page >

China?s visa free entry programme

Community
Wiki Posts
Search

China’s visa free entry programme

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 25, 2023 | 5:41 am
  #16  
:D!
1M
50 Countries Visited
100 Nights
10 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: NW London and NW Sydney
Programs: BA Diamond, Hilton Bronze, A3 Diamond, IHG *G
Posts: 7,146
Originally Posted by YariGuy
To show real sincerity China needs to give this to Americans.

Seriously though, does this policy have any caveats? Such as the cumulative number of days in China in a year, or the number of entries? Based on this someone can just do a "visa run" every 2 weeks and stay in China indefinitely.
Try it and see if you get back in on day 16.

The CCP has to know they aren't going to get reciprocity from Schengen. While Schengen visas can be limited to single countries, it's not possible to enforce this in practice (perhaps with the exception of Malta and maybe Greece).

Countries such as Senegal which want tourists from first world countries will accept not getting reciprocal treatment.
moondog likes this.
:D! is offline  
Old Nov 25, 2023 | 6:00 am
  #17  
Moderator: Lufthansa Miles & More, India based airlines, India, External Miles & Points Resources
30 Countries Visited
2M
All eyes on you!
20 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: MUC
Programs: LH SEN
Posts: 52,699
Chinese post pandemic visa procedures for Germans became rather ridiculous... first they required fingerprint capturing at the consulate (similar to what is required by the Germans in China) with an epic application form in a process that took 3 weeks on average then they threatened to only have one such facility in Berlin. Then they backed off on that and now it's visa on arrival? I didn't hear any reports from my Chinese colleagues that the Germans have relaxed anything...
moondog and uanj like this.
oliver2002 is online now  
Old Nov 25, 2023 | 6:29 am
  #18  
Original Poster
FlyerTalk Evangelist
40 Countries Visited
3M
80 Nights
20 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 11,248
Originally Posted by oliver2002
Chinese post pandemic visa procedures for Germans became rather ridiculous... first they required fingerprint capturing at the consulate (similar to what is required by the Germans in China) with an epic application form in a process that took 3 weeks on average then they threatened to only have one such facility in Berlin. Then they backed off on that and now it's visa on arrival? I didn't hear any reports from my Chinese colleagues that the Germans have relaxed anything...
China has realized that they overestimated the desire of people from other countries to put up with their crap in order to visit the Middle Kingdom.

Zero Covid was the final straw for many and this is an attempt to try and win back some goodwill.
moondog, YariGuy, kb1992 and 4 others like this.
travelinmanS is offline  
Old Nov 25, 2023 | 6:44 am
  #19  
10 Countries Visited
Community Builder
All eyes on you!
10 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: FRA/SXB
Programs: FB Silver; Accor Silver
Posts: 4,237
China does not expect reciprocity in this instance, at least during the 12-month trial period. As mentioned above, China is likely trying to win back some goodwill given all the negative press lately. There is demand from Europe to visit China, but the visa application process puts people off.
mlin32 is offline  
Old Nov 25, 2023 | 7:36 am
  #20  
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Community Builder
Community Influencer
All eyes on you!
25 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Shanghai
Posts: 46,323
Originally Posted by mlin32
China does not expect reciprocity in this instance, at least during the 12-month trial period.
The "trial period" thing is just another face-saving ruse...a way to appease the hardliners; "we aren't really kowtowing to Europe because it's only a pilot program, you see?"

​​​​​​
YariGuy, m.y and gudugan like this.
moondog is offline  
Old Nov 27, 2023 | 5:15 am
  #21  
5 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Programs: Marriott Titanium, Hilton Diamond, Hyatt Explorist, Marco Polo Gold
Posts: 1,084
Congrats to Malaysia, Singapore, France, Spain, Holland, Italy, and Germany for having visa-free entry to China. Effective Dec. 1., 15-day visa-free entry will be granted to passport holders of those nations. This is a trial run that will last from Dec. 1, 2023 and ends Dec. 1, 2024.
Cathay Dragon 666 is offline  
Old Nov 27, 2023 | 6:06 am
  #22  
30 Countries Visited
2M
All eyes on you!
15 Years on Site
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: AVP & PEK
Programs: UA 1K 2MM
Posts: 7,859
Originally Posted by Cathay Dragon 666
Congrats to Malaysia, Singapore, France, Spain, Holland, Italy, and Germany for having visa-free entry to China. Effective Dec. 1., 15-day visa-free entry will be granted to passport holders of those nations. This is a trial run that will last from Dec. 1, 2023 and ends Dec. 1, 2024.

GREAT news indeed for those country....tiny correction: runs until November 30, 2024
narvik is online now  
Old Nov 27, 2023 | 7:00 am
  #23  
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Germany
Posts: 1,244
Originally Posted by oliver2002
Chinese post pandemic visa procedures for Germans became rather ridiculous... first they required fingerprint capturing at the consulate (similar to what is required by the Germans in China) with an epic application form in a process that took 3 weeks on average then they threatened to only have one such facility in Berlin. Then they backed off on that and now it's visa on arrival? I didn't hear any reports from my Chinese colleagues that the Germans have relaxed anything...
There is/was just one visa application center in berlin, but they are available in Düsseldorf, Frankfurt and Hamburg, too. It is/was required for German (and other Schengen) Passport holders to leave fingerprints every five years at one of this facilities, or if they got a new passport.
Personally I would prefer to get a 10 year visa instead of 15 days visa free access. 10 year visa aren't available for Schengen citizen. It was real pain to get a new visa every few month, as china only gave 1 year multiply enty visa after you already had a few single entry visa in your passport. The mandatory "Visa Service Center" also charged high fees for their "service".
In fact they did nothing else than the embassy did before the Service Centers was introduced. It wasn't even possible to pay by creditcard, they required cash or the old fashioned german "EC card" and their service was always rude. Some of my friends spend half a day there just to submit their application (which you have to submit online anyway before you visit the service center). Some was required to drive hundred of kilometers again because the service center wasn't able to take fingerprints that day or they refused to take cash that day and only accept the stupid EC-Card for payment.
31570324 is offline  
Old Nov 27, 2023 | 7:29 am
  #24  
 
Join Date: Apr 2022
Location: YouTube: @FindingFoodFluency
Posts: 441
Originally Posted by Cathay Dragon 666
Congrats to Malaysia, Singapore, France, Spain, Holland, Italy, and Germany for having visa-free entry to China. Effective Dec. 1., 15-day visa-free entry will be granted to passport holders of those nations. This is a trial run that will last from Dec. 1, 2023 and ends Dec. 1, 2024.
It's not a new scheme for Singaporeans. Plus, Holland is a region in the Netherlands

---

I'm curious about someone's post in this forum from months back, mentioning that some visas would be extended three years due to COVID-19 shaving off three years. Any updates on that, or was it much ado about nothing?
FindingFoodFluency is offline  
Old Nov 27, 2023 | 8:15 am
  #25  
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Community Builder
Community Influencer
All eyes on you!
25 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Shanghai
Posts: 46,323
Originally Posted by FindingFoodFluency
It's not a new scheme for Singaporeans. Plus, Holland is a region in the Netherlands

---

I'm curious about someone's post in this forum from months back, mentioning that some visas would be extended three years due to COVID-19 shaving off three years. Any updates on that, or was it much ado about nothing?
We discussed that topic about 5 months ago in this thread and/or the visa thread, and I'm too lazy to dig up the conversation(s), but IIRC the gist of it was that they were/are issuing new visas that effectively tacked on validity time due to Covid, but for many people, getting new 10-year visas made/makes more sense (i.e. if you're going to go to a consulate anyway, you might as well walk away with the best document possible, even if it entails forking over $185...raised from the previous $140 due to reciprocity).
FindingFoodFluency likes this.
moondog is offline  
Old Nov 27, 2023 | 8:19 am
  #26  
30 Countries Visited
2M
All eyes on you!
15 Years on Site
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: AVP & PEK
Programs: UA 1K 2MM
Posts: 7,859
It's here:
Compensation Arrangements for the Use-Suspension of 10-year Multi-Entry Visa due to the COVID-19_Embassy of the People's Republic of China in the United States of America

2. Applicants may choose whether to apply for compensation after the expiration of their visas. A three-year multi-entry visa can be applied free of charge in compensation. If applicants choose to give up the compensation, a new 10-year multi-entry visa can be applied for with normal charge.
narvik is online now  
Old Nov 27, 2023 | 9:34 am
  #27  
Moderator: Lufthansa Miles & More, India based airlines, India, External Miles & Points Resources
30 Countries Visited
2M
All eyes on you!
20 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: MUC
Programs: LH SEN
Posts: 52,699
Originally Posted by 31570324
There is/was just one visa application center in berlin, but they are available in Düsseldorf, Frankfurt and Hamburg, too. It is/was required for German (and other Schengen) Passport holders to leave fingerprints every five years at one of this facilities, or if they got a new passport.
Personally I would prefer to get a 10 year visa instead of 15 days visa free access. 10 year visa aren't available for Schengen citizen. It was real pain to get a new visa every few month, as china only gave 1 year multiply enty visa after you already had a few single entry visa in your passport.
Well, they wanted to move the finger printing for all to Berlin. Thank god that didn't happen. For us the rule of thumb was that you got a 2 year multiple entry visa once you had two 6 month visa in the passport.
oliver2002 is online now  
Old Nov 28, 2023 | 1:24 am
  #28  
All eyes on you!
20 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Programs: SQ, QF, UA, CO, DL
Posts: 3,903
Originally Posted by oliver2002
Chinese post pandemic visa procedures for Germans became rather ridiculous... first they required fingerprint capturing at the consulate (similar to what is required by the Germans in China) with an epic application form in a process that took 3 weeks on average then they threatened to only have one such facility in Berlin. Then they backed off on that and now it's visa on arrival? I didn't hear any reports from my Chinese colleagues that the Germans have relaxed anything...
Veering into OMNI territory, but the four EU countries were chosen for very specific political and economic reasons. If you follow the news you should have a good idea what China wants from them. China absolutely understands they cannot expect EU visa reciprocity, they are expecting something else. The program runs for a year, so if China doesn't make the progress they are seeking they may choose to discontinue it.

Regardless, it's good news for now for travelers from those countries.
moondog and narvik like this.
uanj is offline  
Old Dec 3, 2023 | 2:51 am
  #29  
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Germany
Posts: 1,244
Anyone found the official rules about this visa exemption? Will it be possible to enter china at any airport or border crossing point or just at the airports which offered the 72/144 hours visa exemption before?
31570324 is offline  
Old Dec 3, 2023 | 4:17 am
  #30  
10 Countries Visited
All eyes on you!
5 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Jun 2020
Programs: FlyingBlue
Posts: 3,253
Glad to confirm I just entered mainland from HK at the Lo Wu pedestrian checkpoint.
Just checked « visa free » on the entry form and in I went , no questions asked.
The whole health declaration drama and temperature check is over, too, which is nice.
tom tulpe, m.y, Jiatong and 2 others like this.

Last edited by maalloc; Dec 3, 2023 at 11:59 pm
maalloc is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

This site is owned, operated, and maintained by MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Designated trademarks are the property of their respective owners.