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Originally Posted by EmpressRouge
(Post 34495167)
I heard that hotels are complying -- by giving guests 50% of the high season, winter rates. It's currently low season so the "discounted" lockdown rates are actually higher than the regular low season rates tourists originally booked.
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Now that Hong Kong quarantine is only 3 days, does anyone think it's easier to go to Hong Kong, go through the 3 day quarantine, get a visa for the mainland in Hong Kong, and then fly from Hong Kong to the mainland?
As far as I know, any one can apply for a mainland visa in Hong Kong at the Chinese Foreign Ministry Commissioner's Office -- you don't need Hong Kong residence -- and they recently updated their guidelines to allow Q and S visas to be processed. 3. The scope of applicants eligible for applying for a visa out of humanitarian needs will be expanded as appropriate. In addition to visiting an immediate family member in China who is in critical medical condition and in need of care, or arrange funeral matters of an immediate family member in China, foreign family members (including spouses, parents, spouse's parents, children and their spouses, brothers and sisters, grandparents, and grandchildren) of Chinese citizens or foreign nationals with permanent residence status in the Mainland of China can apply for visas for reunion or family visit. The above applicants should submit routine documents, and the full-process vaccination certificates of the vaccine licensed or approved for emergency use by China or WHO shall be provided. |
Originally Posted by moondog
(Post 34495130)
In the case of my compound, we always know who the positives are.
1. Their specific buildings get sealed 2. They are mentioned in our WeChat groups. I wouldn't call these "official", but the community leader (who works for the government) is a member Social pressure in the Confucian sense (e.g. focus on the community) is a major part of the equation. This is why public shaming comes into play. We haven't had any positives since the end of the big lockdown in my compound. Other places have, but the new lockdowns have been quite short in cases that I'm aware of. That having been said, the current Sanya situation doesn't seem pleasant, based on what I've read thus far. Most of the 80,000 people locked down there don't live in Sanya, so they are stuck in hotel rooms. Apparently, their room rates were slashed by 50% per government order. |
Originally Posted by lsquare
(Post 34495506)
Sounds like it could be very expensive if they're stuck at a high-end property even if it's 50% off. However, if it's cheap, it could be a nice way to earn some EQNs.
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Originally Posted by boat stuck
(Post 34495498)
Now that Hong Kong quarantine is only 3 days, does anyone think it's easier to go to Hong Kong, go through the 3 day quarantine, get a visa for the mainland in Hong Kong, and then fly from Hong Kong to the mainland?
As far as I know, any one can apply for a mainland visa in Hong Kong at the Chinese Foreign Ministry Commissioner's Office -- you don't need Hong Kong residence -- and they recently updated their guidelines to allow Q and S visas to be processed. Notice on the Adjustment of Requirements for Chinese Visa Application During COVID-19 Pandemic |
Originally Posted by boat stuck
(Post 34495498)
Now that Hong Kong quarantine is only 3 days, does anyone think it's easier to go to Hong Kong, go through the 3 day quarantine, get a visa for the mainland in Hong Kong, and then fly from Hong Kong to the mainland?
As far as I know, any one can apply for a mainland visa in Hong Kong at the Chinese Foreign Ministry Commissioner's Office -- you don't need Hong Kong residence -- and they recently updated their guidelines to allow Q and S visas to be processed. Notice on the Adjustment of Requirements for Chinese Visa Application During COVID-19 Pandemic Getting from HK to the mainland is pretty much impossible now, it’s really like winning the lotto to get a border crossing slot or getting a flight into the mainland. Basically China doesn’t want anyone to come but if you insist they will make it as painful on you and your wallet as possible. Once you’re inside you also are under constant surveillance and under threat of lockdown of undetermined time. I’d advise anyone to avoid this place now unless it’s for family or a life changing amount of money. |
Originally Posted by percysmith
(Post 34495540)
It's a Government-mandated rate. "No".
Originally Posted by travelinmanS
(Post 34495705)
It’s still 7 days you need to stay in HK and all at a hotel if you’re a visitor without a place in HK. So there really isn’t much change other than being able to get fresh air for the final 4 days.
Getting from HK to the mainland is pretty much impossible now, it’s really like winning the lotto to get a border crossing slot or getting a flight into the mainland. Basically China doesn’t want anyone to come but if you insist they will make it as painful on you and your wallet as possible. Once you’re inside you also are under constant surveillance and under threat of lockdown of undetermined time. I’d advise anyone to avoid this place now unless it’s for family or a life changing amount of money. |
Originally Posted by lsquare
(Post 34495731)
Have you been to HK at all since the start of the pandemic? |
Originally Posted by lsquare
(Post 34495731)
Have you been to HK at all since the start of the pandemic?
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Originally Posted by lsquare
(Post 34495731)
Have you been to HK at all since the start of the pandemic?
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Originally Posted by travelinmanS
(Post 34495705)
It’s still 7 days you need to stay in HK and all at a hotel if you’re a visitor without a place in HK. So there really isn’t much change other than being able to get fresh air for the final 4 days.
The extra 4 (or to be precise, 7) days are labelled as self-monitoring so technically it's not quarantine. Under the previous regime of 7+7 (also seven days self-monitoring), you certainly were allowed to leave HK during the self-monitoring period. So unless there is explicit wording banning this under the new scheme, then I would assume that you are free to leave HK during the +4/+7 period. |
Originally Posted by travelinmanS
(Post 34495705)
I’d advise anyone to avoid this place now unless it’s for family or a life changing amount of money. 😀 |
Originally Posted by tauphi
(Post 34498413)
Are you sure about this? You are allowed to go anywhere in HK other than high-risk venues. Unless they explicitly state that you are not allowed to leave HK then you are.
The extra 4 (or to be precise, 7) days are labelled as self-monitoring so technically it's not quarantine. I think travelinmanS is right. If one is a tourist or does not have a residence or a friend/relative to stay with in HK, the last four-day is still a hotel stay. The only difference is the ability leave the hotel room visiting venues and places that are allowed. |
Originally Posted by percysmith
(Post 34495540)
It's a Government-mandated rate. "No".
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Originally Posted by UA_Flyer
(Post 34498759)
I beleive travelinmanS only made comparsion between 7 verus 3+4 from the perspective of a visitor. He did not say anyting about leaving HK.
I think travelinmanS is right. If one is a tourist or does not have a residence or a friend/relative to stay with in HK, the last four-day is still a hotel stay. The only difference is the ability leave the hotel room visiting venues and places that are allowed. |
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