First time on holiday in China.... Questions
Jul 16, 2019, 11:24 am
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I've stayed at that Holiday Inn Express. It's tucked in a quiet residential street, one block from Suzhou Creek, which has an excellent pathway for walking, running, and cycling. The neighborhood does have a "burb" feel, but it's really just a nondescript part of a maniacal city.
Jul 16, 2019, 12:49 pm
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I did consider that... However, I understand the TWOV limits me, in effect, to the Greater Shanghai Area. Once the National holiday is over, I’ll be looking to go further. Applying for a visa today and it is i) not trivial and ii) expensive (so better had be a two year multi).
Jul 16, 2019, 1:01 pm
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I did consider that... However, I understand the TWOV limits me, in effect, to the Greater Shanghai Area. Once the National holiday is over, I’ll be looking to go further. Applying for a visa today and it is i) not trivial and ii) expensive (so better had be a two year multi).
Jul 16, 2019, 1:41 pm
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While clearly illegal, apart from Tibet, China does not, at present, have facilities to restrict the movements of foreigners in country.
As I mentioned above, I do not advocate violating TWOV rules.
As I mentioned above, I do not advocate violating TWOV rules.
Jul 16, 2019, 2:18 pm
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Hotels get quite edgy when you turn up on a UK passport with no visa, even when they can see your entry stamp (I know from experience). I'd imagine if you tried to check in to a hotel in Beijing with a TWOV from Shanghai, they might kick off...
Jul 16, 2019, 2:39 pm
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There are many ways to stay overnight in China that don't entail registration. In fact, my current landlord --who rents rooms out on airbnb type services-- doesn't even offer to register her guests unless they are applying for RPs.
Jul 16, 2019, 3:02 pm
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A foreigner would need to submit their passport to purchase a HSR ticket, and this information might pop up onto the computer screen at exit immigration. I do NOT recommend going to Beijing with TWOV.
Jul 16, 2019, 3:12 pm
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Somewhat off topic, before the Tibet entry policy was strictly enforced, it was quite common for foreigners of Asian ethnicity to travel there sans permit, and I'm guessing determined folks still find ways to slip through the cracks.
Jul 16, 2019, 4:03 pm
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Either way, I don’t knowingly break the law in any country I visit (and if that rule of thumb applies to the US, it definitely applies to China). Besides, I’m guessing hotel and guest house owners would rather not find themselves in an awkward place with the local law and customs.
Jul 16, 2019, 5:20 pm
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Either way, I don’t knowingly break the law in any country I visit (and if that rule of thumb applies to the US, it definitely applies to China). Besides, I’m guessing hotel and guest house owners would rather not find themselves in an awkward place with the local law and customs.
Although I love Beijing, especially in October (better than average air quality and nice weather), you could definitely find things to do within the Shanghai/Jiangsu/Zhejiang zone, and remember that HK, Macau, Korea, Japan, Taiwan etc can all be nested inside of your visit. FYI, my last several landlords are all party members; 20-something police officers know not to mess with them over bureaucratic matters.
Jul 17, 2019, 8:04 am
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Entering pp details into a computer is not currently required for buying plane tickets (visual ID checks only), buses don't care, and obviously it's a non issue if you drive yourself or with others in a private vehicle.
Somewhat off topic, before the Tibet entry policy was strictly enforced, it was quite common for foreigners of Asian ethnicity to travel there sans permit, and I'm guessing determined folks still find ways to slip through the cracks.
Somewhat off topic, before the Tibet entry policy was strictly enforced, it was quite common for foreigners of Asian ethnicity to travel there sans permit, and I'm guessing determined folks still find ways to slip through the cracks.
Jul 24, 2019, 5:57 pm
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Shame to hear about more and more buses requiring passports. Had become accustomed to taking buses from less popular bus stations - e.g. in Shenzhen’s Donghu neighborhood, as opposed to the Luo Hu border one - without a hitch.