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Peking transfer El Al.

Old Dec 31, 18, 6:39 pm
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Peking transfer El Al.

Am sourcing Info needed for tricky one world Award flight. Currently have Syd-HK-Peking-Tel Aviv booked. Flights from Sydney to Peking are on CX and the final leg on El Al. There is about 90 minutes transit between each sector. Iím presuming/hoping that luggage is booked through to Tel Aviv. Have been told of issues with Peking and to avoid if possible and also the El Al is on the 777 in J. Reduced expectations there.

My question - does anyone see any issues with transfers here and with additional security required by EL Al given Iím presuming that luggage isnít collected in Peking. Iíve checked and there is nothing much else available as an award right now but will change of that becomes an option.
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Old Jan 1, 19, 8:13 am
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I can't think of what the issues would be. If your luggage is checked through, you only need to pass security (as in most places in the world). Both airlines are in the same terminal. Go to Youtube and there are some videos showing you the process.
Minimum connection time is 60 minutes.
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Old Jan 1, 19, 8:36 pm
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With only three flights per week in El Al, I'd be a little worried.
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Old Jan 1, 19, 8:44 pm
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First, of course you need to verify your luggage will be checked all the way through to Tel Aviv, that El Al has no special security rule requiring you to re-check it personally in Beijing.

Second, look at what time of day you're transiting. My impression is that the terminal serves as a transit hub and gets inundated with passengers a few times a day. The normal security check lines can be very long if your arrival is timed bad.
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Old Jan 2, 19, 11:51 pm
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HKG-PEK is very prone to delay, making this a very high-risk itinerary.
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Old Jan 3, 19, 7:03 am
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Originally Posted by HkCaGu View Post
HKG-PEK is very prone to delay, making this a very high-risk itinerary.
Actually, I would think that "au contraire" it helps him. As I understand it, delays are frequent but on departures. Incoming flights are not asked to fly around for hours before landing. Unless they departed late, incoming flights will more or less be on time. The fact that flights often depart late in PEK could give the OP even more time.
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Old Jan 3, 19, 9:30 am
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Originally Posted by JPDM View Post
Actually, I would think that "au contraire" it helps him. As I understand it, delays are frequent but on departures. Incoming flights are not asked to fly around for hours before landing. Unless they departed late, incoming flights will more or less be on time. The fact that flights often depart late in PEK could give the OP even more time.
You may have misunderstood. Short haul arrivals are easier to hold at origin as it involves fewer foreign authorities. China's traffic jams are mainly caused by capacity limitation of airways (especially in the populated eastern part, including the HKG-WUH-PEK corridor). Departure delays can also be caused by capacity control, but also by incoming equipment delays. So El Al incoming flying TLV-PEK will face little to no barriers in flying on time, and since PEK is an outstation with no substantial connecting traffic, they won't hold their flight to wait for late passengers (a super rainstorm preventing passengers reaching PEK on the ground, possibly including their crew, that's a different story). (Israel has delay compensation law too!) Being on an award ticket puts you on an even lower priority--especially when "revenue" passengers don't normally interline this way.

I think many on this forum will agree that "friends don't let friends connect (unless long layover) in China (PEK/PVG), especially short-haul to long-haul, especially interline, especially on award tickets"!
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Old Jan 3, 19, 9:17 pm
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Thanks everyone. I’ve managed to change it and avoid Beijing. The risk of being stuck there was too much.

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Old Jan 3, 19, 10:23 pm
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Thanks everyone. Iíve maneged to change it and avoid Beijing. The risk of being stuck there was too much.
Good call.
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