PVG security was nuts
Dec 27, 2016 | 10:12 am
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I'm not objecting to enforcing the rules. I'm objecting to the much greater digging they did this time than ever before, and declaring a flight-legal Letherman tool as a "small knife". Fortunately, we have relatives over there to mail it back to so I only lost it until our next trip. TSA has examined the very thing and declared it acceptable.
TSA has no jurisdiction in China.
Dec 27, 2016 | 11:24 pm
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They claim they have some ltd jurisdiction outside US mainly involving nonstop flights.
TSA Jurisdiction
Transportation systems inside, and connecting to the United States of America.
TSA Jurisdiction
Transportation systems inside, and connecting to the United States of America.
Dec 29, 2016 | 5:46 pm
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I'm not objecting to enforcing the rules. I'm objecting to the much greater digging they did this time than ever before, and declaring a flight-legal Letherman tool as a "small knife". Fortunately, we have relatives over there to mail it back to so I only lost it until our next trip. TSA has examined the very thing and declared it acceptable.
Dec 30, 2016 | 8:04 am
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For flights to the USA, TSA sets the minimum security regulations they expect to be followed. The originating country's government may set their own stricter regulations beyond that. That is exactly what China does. The Chinese wouldn't allow that Leatherman tool (or Swiss Army knife, etc.) through regular security checkpoint for ANY flight domestic or international, regardless of what the TSA thinks.
Dec 30, 2016 | 1:40 pm
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For flights to the USA, TSA sets the minimum security regulations they expect to be followed. The originating country's government may set their own stricter regulations beyond that. That is exactly what China does. The Chinese wouldn't allow that Leatherman tool (or Swiss Army knife, etc.) through regular security checkpoint for ANY flight domestic or international, regardless of what the TSA thinks.
If they had called it a "tool" I would have understood.
Dec 30, 2016 | 3:50 pm
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Jan 4, 2017 | 12:42 pm
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I find it much more difficult to find any consistency with the US' TSA from airport to airport (heck even at different security checkpoints in the same airport!)
Jan 4, 2017 | 3:19 pm
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Really? I have found Chinese security remarkably consistent over the years with respect to tools, knives, liquids, alcohol-based (flammable) products, lighters and matches, etc. And consistent from airport to airport across the entire country, with Xinjiang airports having some additional aspects to their security process. The newish limitations on lithium batteries and power pack/charger labelling are the only major development I can think of that might have had a rather confused transition period during the implementation.
I find it much more difficult to find any consistency with the US' TSA from airport to airport (heck even at different security checkpoints in the same airport!)
I find it much more difficult to find any consistency with the US' TSA from airport to airport (heck even at different security checkpoints in the same airport!)
Jan 4, 2017 | 8:50 pm
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Yeah, I've always been impressed with the competence of the security people. I just felt they were going nuts this time.
Jan 4, 2017 | 11:09 pm
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Laptop bag--they unpacked every bit of electronics in it. Nobody's ever done that before.
They also pulled my camera bag out of the bag it was in and ran both through separately, again something nobody has done before.
I would say they were poking around in at least 1 in 3 bags.
They also pulled my camera bag out of the bag it was in and ran both through separately, again something nobody has done before.
I would say they were poking around in at least 1 in 3 bags.
Or maybe that day, some government authorities coming into town to check up, so they need to follow all procedures.
Feb 27, 2017 | 8:43 am
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Security at airports in China is a pain in the butt. I've said before that the further north you go the worse it gets but I got chastised on here for offending the northerners. All I will say is PVG is still miles better than any other airport on the mainland. It is the only airport where I don't "beep" when going through the metal detector. PEK is the pits.
I think what you really mean is that everywhere else, even when it doesn't beep, you get the full wand treatment?
Recently at PVG I experienced for the first time not getting the full wand treatment when it didn't beep. They made me remove my belt and I was upset as I normally could be buck naked and still get the wand, but when it didn't beep they waved me through.
98% of the time, though, I ask them why they have the metal detector when they wand me even though no beep.
Or I see a female who is not wanted, and ask why they wanded me but not her and they say "oh, you are male".
Feb 27, 2017 | 3:52 pm
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When I have my belt on, it always beeps. Once the security check the belt, perhaps to see if there is any hidden objects
I am used to removing belts (and even shoes). I always have to do that in US airports when I don't have TSAPre. After a few flights in the US, you will get used to that and will not be upset anymore.
Feb 27, 2017 | 5:59 pm
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That is something they do recently - asking passengers to remove belt. I did it last time and there was no beep. They waved me through too.
When I have my belt on, it always beeps. Once the security check the belt, perhaps to see if there is any hidden objects
I am used to removing belts (and even shoes). I always have to do that in US airports when I don't have TSAPre. After a few flights in the US, you will get used to that and will not be upset anymore.
When I have my belt on, it always beeps. Once the security check the belt, perhaps to see if there is any hidden objects
I am used to removing belts (and even shoes). I always have to do that in US airports when I don't have TSAPre. After a few flights in the US, you will get used to that and will not be upset anymore.
Of the 20 times I did not get a beep, only this one time did they NOT wand me.
Also had to take out coins (US, Euros, Yen) from my briefcase for the first time in 8 years yesterday.