High Speed South Manchuria Railway
Dec 25, 2013, 6:47 am
#32
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Been to several of these places in Dongbei. Not a trip that I would do a gain or recommend. A lot of places in China that are more interesting.
Other than the Harbin ice festival, I don't think that this part of the country gets a lot of foreign tourists (except Russians maybe).
Apr 10, 2014, 5:05 am
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But is the difference between 13 and 32 hours really useful?
There is 1 train daily Shanghai-Harbin now. K56 takes 31 hours 43 minutes.
But that high speed train runs by day. It takes up the whole day. You need to sleep the previous night in Shanghai to depart in 9:44, and you are dumped in Harbin West at 22:47, looking for a hotel in winter night. And pay 898 yuan for the pleasure in second class.
Alternatively, you could get on K56 the previous evening at 21:05, spend two nights in lower soft sleeper for 767 yuan 5 jiao - saving 130 yuan 5 jiao PLUS the cost of both hotel nights - and arrive at 4:48.
There is 1 train daily Shanghai-Harbin now. K56 takes 31 hours 43 minutes.
But that high speed train runs by day. It takes up the whole day. You need to sleep the previous night in Shanghai to depart in 9:44, and you are dumped in Harbin West at 22:47, looking for a hotel in winter night. And pay 898 yuan for the pleasure in second class.
Alternatively, you could get on K56 the previous evening at 21:05, spend two nights in lower soft sleeper for 767 yuan 5 jiao - saving 130 yuan 5 jiao PLUS the cost of both hotel nights - and arrive at 4:48.
But, on 21st of April, like yesteryear, summer comes in Manchuria. And in this summer, unlike last summer, Tianjin West-Tianjin-Qinhuangdao high speed railway exists.
Therefore high speed train shall continue to be numbered G1204, but shall take 12:00 instead of 12:57, leaving at 9:47 and arriving at 21:47.
Nov 24, 2014, 9:03 am
#34
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Winter again!
On 10th of December, High Speed South Manchuria Railway shall be slowed down again.
At present, the fastest trains Dalian-Harbin are G47 and G49, equally taking 3:30 with 2 stops (Shenyang and Changchun).
These shall vanish from 10th of December, 2014, after which the fastest train shall be D1301 taking 5:22.
What is an improvement is that in autumn 2013, Manchurian railway was slowed down on 1st of December, but in 2014, G trains continue till 9th of December, inclusive.
At present, the fastest trains Dalian-Harbin are G47 and G49, equally taking 3:30 with 2 stops (Shenyang and Changchun).
These shall vanish from 10th of December, 2014, after which the fastest train shall be D1301 taking 5:22.
What is an improvement is that in autumn 2013, Manchurian railway was slowed down on 1st of December, but in 2014, G trains continue till 9th of December, inclusive.
Nov 24, 2014, 10:56 am
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Aug 21, 2015, 4:19 am
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Harbin-Qiqihar high speed railway opened!
On Monday, 17th instant.
There are 17 daily D trains Harbin-Qiqihar. Of these, the fastest are 4 express trains, D6901 to D6907, 1 stop, trip time 1:25. The other 13 take 1:32 to 1:56, with 2 to 6 intermediate stops. Departures from Harbin from 6:13 to 18:45, arrival in Qiqihar South 8:03 to 20:28.
Ticket price second class 98 yuan, first class 117 yuan.
For comparison, slow trains take 3:01 to 5:23. Hard seat 38 yuan 5 jiao to 46 yuan 5 jiao, hard sleeper 92 yuan 5 jiao to 100 yuan 5 jiao, soft sleeper 136 yuan 5 jiao to 146 yuan 5 jiao.
2 of these trains are direct trains Beijing-Qiqihar: D29 and D25. Trip time 10:10 and 10:26, departures 6:55 and 10:02, arrivals 17:05 and 20:28. Ticket price second class 406 yuan 5 jiao, first class 540 yuan 5 jiao.
No direct high speed service to Qiqihar from anywhere else past Harbin.
There are 17 daily D trains Harbin-Qiqihar. Of these, the fastest are 4 express trains, D6901 to D6907, 1 stop, trip time 1:25. The other 13 take 1:32 to 1:56, with 2 to 6 intermediate stops. Departures from Harbin from 6:13 to 18:45, arrival in Qiqihar South 8:03 to 20:28.
Ticket price second class 98 yuan, first class 117 yuan.
For comparison, slow trains take 3:01 to 5:23. Hard seat 38 yuan 5 jiao to 46 yuan 5 jiao, hard sleeper 92 yuan 5 jiao to 100 yuan 5 jiao, soft sleeper 136 yuan 5 jiao to 146 yuan 5 jiao.
2 of these trains are direct trains Beijing-Qiqihar: D29 and D25. Trip time 10:10 and 10:26, departures 6:55 and 10:02, arrivals 17:05 and 20:28. Ticket price second class 406 yuan 5 jiao, first class 540 yuan 5 jiao.
No direct high speed service to Qiqihar from anywhere else past Harbin.
Sep 15, 2015, 11:08 pm
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Shenyang-Dandong high speed railway opened!
At the beginning of this month.
I count 35 high speed (D and G) trains Shenyang-Dandong. Trip time 1:10 to 1:45. Ticket price on D trains from Shenyang Station second class 70 yuan, first class 87 yuan. First morning train, D7601, departs 5:32, arrives 6:48. Last evening train, D7641, departs 21:15, arrives 22:31.
There are 8 slow trains daily, trip time 3:39 to 5:06. Hard seat price 38 yuan 5 jiao or 41 yuan 5 jiao.
Dandong Station is near Yalu River. Thus, Shenyang-Dandong high speed railway is the first high speed railway to reach the border of China anywhere, although not as yet cross it.
I count 35 high speed (D and G) trains Shenyang-Dandong. Trip time 1:10 to 1:45. Ticket price on D trains from Shenyang Station second class 70 yuan, first class 87 yuan. First morning train, D7601, departs 5:32, arrives 6:48. Last evening train, D7641, departs 21:15, arrives 22:31.
There are 8 slow trains daily, trip time 3:39 to 5:06. Hard seat price 38 yuan 5 jiao or 41 yuan 5 jiao.
Dandong Station is near Yalu River. Thus, Shenyang-Dandong high speed railway is the first high speed railway to reach the border of China anywhere, although not as yet cross it.
Oct 19, 2015, 8:16 am
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For a few days the new HSR from Jilin to Hunchun is open now.
Stops are now Jiaohe West, Dunhua, Antu West, Yanji West, Tumen North and Hunchun.
From Yanji to Beijing its now a 9h 23 min. journey (before the fastest was 24h 25min.).
Hunchun just had a train connection to Russia before but not to any chinese city.
Stops are now Jiaohe West, Dunhua, Antu West, Yanji West, Tumen North and Hunchun.
From Yanji to Beijing its now a 9h 23 min. journey (before the fastest was 24h 25min.).
Hunchun just had a train connection to Russia before but not to any chinese city.
Oct 21, 2015, 12:32 pm
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For a few days the new HSR from Jilin to Hunchun is open now.
Stops are now Jiaohe West, Dunhua, Antu West, Yanji West, Tumen North and Hunchun.
From Yanji to Beijing its now a 9h 23 min. journey (before the fastest was 24h 25min.).
Hunchun just had a train connection to Russia before but not to any chinese city.
Stops are now Jiaohe West, Dunhua, Antu West, Yanji West, Tumen North and Hunchun.
From Yanji to Beijing its now a 9h 23 min. journey (before the fastest was 24h 25min.).
Hunchun just had a train connection to Russia before but not to any chinese city.
Oct 21, 2015, 1:50 pm
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Yeah it seems they changed the timetable a bit the last few days.
Oct 25, 2015, 11:11 am
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2 of these trains are direct trains Beijing-Qiqihar: D29 and D25. Trip time 10:10 and 10:26, departures 6:55 and 10:02, arrivals 17:05 and 20:28. Ticket price second class 406 yuan 5 jiao, first class 540 yuan 5 jiao.
No direct high speed service to Qiqihar from anywhere else past Harbin.
No direct high speed service to Qiqihar from anywhere else past Harbin.
D114 originates in Hunchun 15:07, terminates in Qiqihar 21:54, trip time 6:47. Ticket price second class 320 yuan 5 jiao, first class 414 yuan
Still no high speed trains to Qiqihar from e. g. Dalian.
Oct 25, 2015, 1:35 pm
#43
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Yes, schedules change frequently. Especially at this time of the new. so there is no point in giving schedule in a forum thread. Better consult real-time schedules. There is no lack of companies offering the information on the web for those who can't read the official website.
Dec 26, 2015, 6:44 am
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Dalian-Dandong high speed railway opened!
A high speed railway has been opened between Dalian and Dandong.
On Dalian-Dandong high speed railway, there are now 12 D trains daily. Fastest train Dalian-Dandong is D7713, taking 1:59 for 310 km with 1 stop. Ticket price second class 114 yuan 5 jiao, first class 183 yuan 5 jiao, business class 344 yuan.
On Dalian-Dandong high speed railway, there are now 12 D trains daily. Fastest train Dalian-Dandong is D7713, taking 1:59 for 310 km with 1 stop. Ticket price second class 114 yuan 5 jiao, first class 183 yuan 5 jiao, business class 344 yuan.
Dec 27, 2015, 9:29 am
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A high speed railway has been opened between Dalian and Dandong.
On Dalian-Dandong high speed railway, there are now 12 D trains daily. Fastest train Dalian-Dandong is D7713, taking 1:59 for 310 km with 1 stop. Ticket price second class 114 yuan 5 jiao, first class 183 yuan 5 jiao, business class 344 yuan.
On Dalian-Dandong high speed railway, there are now 12 D trains daily. Fastest train Dalian-Dandong is D7713, taking 1:59 for 310 km with 1 stop. Ticket price second class 114 yuan 5 jiao, first class 183 yuan 5 jiao, business class 344 yuan.