First Trip to China
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First Trip to China
Finally got the visa, and ready to head off to Beijing for 8 days on Thursday. Unfortunately the last four weeks of work have given me little time to study any of my usual travel books for insights to China so I came here for a quick update.
I have read a couple of the treads here but didn't see much on what to see and how to go about it (or the search missed it). Hopefully someone could give me some advice based on their experiences. My goal is just to see China, enjoy the historical aspects and get a sense of the culture. I speak no Madarin so I assume this will limit what I can do or not.
My plan was to get to my Beijing hotel and then figure out a tour and make it out to the usual touristy places over a couple of days. After that probably spend a day in the shopping districts of city (I am told, I can travel around with trains if I want). I was thinking about spending most of the time in Beijing with two days either in Xian (most likely) or Shangahi (if I can't get a decent flight to Xian). Goal there would be to see the TerraCota army and the Grand mosque.
So couple of questions for folks who are knowledgeable:
1) Should I try to setup a tour from here or wait till I get to my hotel. Or is it better to do all the touristy stuff by just getting a private guide/cab?
2) Shopping - I was thinking about getting some tailored cloths made out there since I assume they would be cheaper - i) is this a good idea and can most things be done within my travel plans ii) if so, any recommendations on where to go?
3) Is the usual mode of transportation taxis or trains or both in Beijing?
4) How big an issue is the lack of mandarin?
5) Should I try to rent a phone while I am out there in case I get lost at any point or that is just throwing money away?
6) Any other tips/suggestions/recommendations are welcome as well.
Thanks FTers!
cst2cst
I have read a couple of the treads here but didn't see much on what to see and how to go about it (or the search missed it). Hopefully someone could give me some advice based on their experiences. My goal is just to see China, enjoy the historical aspects and get a sense of the culture. I speak no Madarin so I assume this will limit what I can do or not.
My plan was to get to my Beijing hotel and then figure out a tour and make it out to the usual touristy places over a couple of days. After that probably spend a day in the shopping districts of city (I am told, I can travel around with trains if I want). I was thinking about spending most of the time in Beijing with two days either in Xian (most likely) or Shangahi (if I can't get a decent flight to Xian). Goal there would be to see the TerraCota army and the Grand mosque.
So couple of questions for folks who are knowledgeable:
1) Should I try to setup a tour from here or wait till I get to my hotel. Or is it better to do all the touristy stuff by just getting a private guide/cab?
2) Shopping - I was thinking about getting some tailored cloths made out there since I assume they would be cheaper - i) is this a good idea and can most things be done within my travel plans ii) if so, any recommendations on where to go?
3) Is the usual mode of transportation taxis or trains or both in Beijing?
4) How big an issue is the lack of mandarin?
5) Should I try to rent a phone while I am out there in case I get lost at any point or that is just throwing money away?
6) Any other tips/suggestions/recommendations are welcome as well.
Thanks FTers!
cst2cst
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Cst2Cst. Beijing is one of my favourite cities. Busy but in a stimulating and fascinating way. In answer to your questions:
1. The tours arranged by the hotel are generally of good quality. That's what I usually do.
2. Hong Kong is good for clothes, but not so much in Beijing.
3. Get taxis. They're pretty cheap, but the best thing to do is to always have either a brochure or a business card or brochure for where you want to go because...
4. Taxi drivers don't speak English. Most staff in decent hotels do though. In restaurants either choose the ones with English menus or just point at the pictures of what you want to eat.
5. I don't rent a phone. All I seem to use mine for is texting home.
6. Try the duck...
1. The tours arranged by the hotel are generally of good quality. That's what I usually do.
2. Hong Kong is good for clothes, but not so much in Beijing.
3. Get taxis. They're pretty cheap, but the best thing to do is to always have either a brochure or a business card or brochure for where you want to go because...
4. Taxi drivers don't speak English. Most staff in decent hotels do though. In restaurants either choose the ones with English menus or just point at the pictures of what you want to eat.
5. I don't rent a phone. All I seem to use mine for is texting home.
6. Try the duck...
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Take a look at the China Forum in tripadvisor.com for lots of useful informations.
Do not forget to go to the great wall, preferably at Mutianyu by hiring a private driver(about 600 RMB). If you are going to Xian, book your flight at http://english.ctrip.com/ now.
Do not forget to go to the great wall, preferably at Mutianyu by hiring a private driver(about 600 RMB). If you are going to Xian, book your flight at http://english.ctrip.com/ now.
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2) Shopping - I was thinking about getting some tailored cloths made out there since I assume they would be cheaper - i) is this a good idea and can most things be done within my travel plans ii) if so, any recommendations on where to go?
3) Is the usual mode of transportation taxis or trains or both in Beijing?
4) How big an issue is the lack of mandarin?
5) Should I try to rent a phone while I am out there in case I get lost at any point or that is just throwing money away?
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OP, check out our FAQ/Main Guide.
Admittedly, we are still building up the tours/places to see section, so it is a bit weak. In the meantime, I suggest checking out this site too:
http://www.travelchinaguide.com/
Good luck.
Admittedly, we are still building up the tours/places to see section, so it is a bit weak. In the meantime, I suggest checking out this site too:
http://www.travelchinaguide.com/
Good luck.
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Any recommendations on decent hotels by the Beijing airport? I get in at 11:30 pm local time so I am thinking it would be best to spend the nite at the airport and go into the city the next day.
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Maybe the Lido. It is about 20 minutes away from the airport, and there are a number of decent restaurants and spas in the area.
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If you have some Hilton Points, look at the Hilton Beijing Capital Airport, it is on PS awards. A superb hotel, I think the best airport hotel I have been to, and very close to T3.
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The Hilton is nice, but there really isn't any point in staying that close to the airport upon arrival.
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I recommend you go into town. Traffic will be very light (but taxis a bit more expensive due to night tariffs) - you'll have a full day the next morning. Early morning traffic into Beijing isn't actually a pleasure - moving hotels generally costs a lot of time in PEK.
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The only exception to this in Beijing is a day trip to the Great Wall. Hiring a driver through the hotel can be expensive, but you can bargain. Also, if you come across a taxi and driver that you like, ask the doorman to help you arrange the Great Wall trip.
2) Shopping - I was thinking about getting some tailored cloths made out there since I assume they would be cheaper - i) is this a good idea and can most things be done within my travel plans ii) if so, any recommendations on where to go?
3) Is the usual mode of transportation taxis or trains or both in Beijing?
4) How big an issue is the lack of mandarin?
As with any country in which you don't speak the language, a little patience, a little good humor, and a willingness to appear foolish if you act out what you want, will get you through almost everything.
5) Should I try to rent a phone while I am out there in case I get lost at any point or that is just throwing money away?
6) Any other tips/suggestions/recommendations are welcome as well.
Drink only bottled water. The tap water in Beijing is reasonably safe, but the very different mineral content may upset your stomach. Your hotel will provide you with either complimentary bottled water, carafes of boiled water, or a small water boiler (depending on whether you're in a western chain hotel, a major Chinese hotel, or a Chinese "locals" hotel). Use them.
Don't eat unpeeled fruit or raw vegetables. Street food is generally fine, but use common sense. Never give money to a beggar. You'll find yourself surrounded by more (I think they use walkie talkies to call each other and identify easy marks
). Read the threads about the tea house scam and the art student scam. Nonetheless, many Chinese actually do want to just practice their English -- it's taught as a mandatory subject starting in elementary school. Prices in most shops are negotiable. Prices in restaurants generally are not. Be prepared for significant cultural differences -- for example, Chinese do not line up neatly, it's polite to slurp hot soup (rather than blow on it) and some people will blow their nose or spit on the street. Chinese people are also very, very polite in their social dealings -- in business dealings, they hate to say, "no." "Yes," means, "maybe," and, "maybe," means, "no." Chinese people rarely socialize at each other's homes. It is normal to get together in restaurants for long, long meals which may include lots of drinking. If you make friends and are invited to dinner at a restauarant (and it's not the tea house scam), by all means, go. It will be a memorable experience and you'll have a wonderful time. Your hosts will NOT let you pick up the check, though politeness requires that you try. Promise them that, next time, you will treat them. It's okay to ask for a fork, but you'll gain face if you can manage chopsticks. Taste everything put in front of you. If you don't like something say, "This is good, but I really like the [dish that you would rather eat]."Also, please remember that every Chinese girl is not looking to hook up with a westerner, Chinese people are justifiably proud of their country and all that it has accomplished, and, most of all, and particularly in Beijing, the people do not think of themselves as living in a third-world country, nor do they.
Do not, under any circumstances, buy, use or give away illegal drugs -- even a single joint. Chinese law deals with illegal drugs very harshly and you do not ever want to wind up on the wrong side of the law in China.
Probably more tips than you anticipated, but I hope they're helpful.
China is a wonderful, amazing country and Beijing is one of mankind's great centers, equal to New York, London, Paris and Rome. Have a great time!
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Note to the OP: When you exit the terminal, you will see a taxi queue to ahead and to your left. Ignore the car touts who ask you if you need a taxi and ONLY take taxis from the official queue. There will be at least one uniformed attendant helping people into taxis. Trust him/her and no one else.
One more note to the OP: You can buy a SIM card in the baggage hall after you clear customs. However, I would advise waiting until you get into Beijing, as you'll pay as much as 10 times more for one of the airport SIM cards. If you don't want to buy a SIM card from a phone shop or street vendor, just ask your hotel -- the business center or the concierge will get you one with only a minor premium charged.
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great info PTravel and everyone else.
So I will go directly to the hotel. Are the currency changers at the airport open that late (since I wont have any yuan to pay the cab). My initial plan is as follows:
Get in on the 16th midnight to a starwood hotel in Beijing. Will spend 3-5 days there and then go to Xian for 3 days/2 nights and come back to Beijing. Fly back to the US early morning on the 26th.
Beijing Itn: Mutianyu Great Wall, Forbidden city, Tienanmen Sq, Birds Nest/Water Cube and shopping (probably will stay at the Westin or St. Regis - free nights to burn).
Xian: Terracotta Warriors, the great mosque, city walls - plan to stay at the Shangri La if its affordable (heard the Sheraton there is pretty old)
Depending on how quickly I get done with Beijing, I may take trip to Shangahi on the express train and then fly from there to Xian.
Question on clothing: I was planning on jeans/shorts & Tshirts assuming its going to be pretty hot/tropical weather. Sandals or sneakers or both? Is there anywhere I will need dressier clothing (no business related items on my itn; just sightseeing)?
Question on schedule: based on the above itineraries, any suggestion on number of days I should spend at each location and is the trip to Shangahi worth it (if so, do it before Xian or after)?
So I will go directly to the hotel. Are the currency changers at the airport open that late (since I wont have any yuan to pay the cab). My initial plan is as follows:
Get in on the 16th midnight to a starwood hotel in Beijing. Will spend 3-5 days there and then go to Xian for 3 days/2 nights and come back to Beijing. Fly back to the US early morning on the 26th.
Beijing Itn: Mutianyu Great Wall, Forbidden city, Tienanmen Sq, Birds Nest/Water Cube and shopping (probably will stay at the Westin or St. Regis - free nights to burn).
Xian: Terracotta Warriors, the great mosque, city walls - plan to stay at the Shangri La if its affordable (heard the Sheraton there is pretty old)
Depending on how quickly I get done with Beijing, I may take trip to Shangahi on the express train and then fly from there to Xian.
Question on clothing: I was planning on jeans/shorts & Tshirts assuming its going to be pretty hot/tropical weather. Sandals or sneakers or both? Is there anywhere I will need dressier clothing (no business related items on my itn; just sightseeing)?
Question on schedule: based on the above itineraries, any suggestion on number of days I should spend at each location and is the trip to Shangahi worth it (if so, do it before Xian or after)?
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