foreigners getting beat up
May 27, 2012 | 9:19 pm
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May 28, 2012 | 3:43 am
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Before this thread gets deleted (as far as I'm concerned, it can stay, but I will admit that it is starting to become a bit too political), I feel compelled to offer you some calming advice.
To the best of my knowledge, only Beijing, Chengdu, and Chongqing are the focus areas of this current campaign against foreigners. Furthermore, it's only a 100-day thing. But, more importantly, the vast majority of the population really doesn't care.
I applaud your daughter for learning Chinese, and hope that you can support her mission to tackle China. (BTW, my own mother dislikes the fact I live 7,000 miles away from her, but she finally --after 10 years-- grasps the fact that China is an important country, and that people like myself and your daughter are making it better.)
To the best of my knowledge, only Beijing, Chengdu, and Chongqing are the focus areas of this current campaign against foreigners. Furthermore, it's only a 100-day thing. But, more importantly, the vast majority of the population really doesn't care.
I applaud your daughter for learning Chinese, and hope that you can support her mission to tackle China. (BTW, my own mother dislikes the fact I live 7,000 miles away from her, but she finally --after 10 years-- grasps the fact that China is an important country, and that people like myself and your daughter are making it better.)
tb
May 28, 2012 | 8:40 am
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120,000 foreigners living in Beijing.
Green card system initiated 8 years ago.
To date 721 cards issued.
Pretty much explains PRCs "immigration"
policy...nonexistent.
http://www.china.org.cn/china/2012-0...t_25497771.htm
Green card system initiated 8 years ago.
To date 721 cards issued.
Pretty much explains PRCs "immigration"
policy...nonexistent.
http://www.china.org.cn/china/2012-0...t_25497771.htm
May 28, 2012 | 9:33 am
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I've got secret info from high placed sources that give me the lowdown on this scene. They tell me if you go to a bar area, get extremely drunk and act like a doofus then you run the risk of getting beat up by some Beijing or Dongbei guys. If you don't do this you are 100% safe. This only applies to Beijing.
If you are in Shanghai or Guangdong don't worry, nobody is going to mess with you even if you are overly drunk and belligerent. This information is 100% accurate....I guarantee it.
If you are in Shanghai or Guangdong don't worry, nobody is going to mess with you even if you are overly drunk and belligerent. This information is 100% accurate....I guarantee it.
May 28, 2012 | 9:36 pm
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I've got secret info from high placed sources that give me the lowdown on this scene. They tell me if you go to a bar area, get extremely drunk and act like a doofus then you run the risk of getting beat up by some Beijing or Dongbei guys. If you don't do this you are 100% safe. This only applies to Beijing.
If you are in Shanghai or Guangdong don't worry, nobody is going to mess with you even if you are overly drunk and belligerent. This information is 100% accurate....I guarantee it.
If you are in Shanghai or Guangdong don't worry, nobody is going to mess with you even if you are overly drunk and belligerent. This information is 100% accurate....I guarantee it.
The 100% safe 'guarantee' is also odd: can I sue if I get beaten up as a family man, and whilst not inebriated?
tb
May 28, 2012 | 10:25 pm
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I find this a bizarre post. If by "100% accurate" you mean that some high up (whoever that may be) gave you his opinion that the likelihood of violence is in the scenario described, I agree with you. However, your post implies that this is part of a campaign, that government sponsored thugs are going to bar street in SLT and on the look-out for drunk foreigners with a mandate to beat them up....although I grant that this may be possible, it's somewhat less credible.
May 28, 2012 | 10:57 pm
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I read the OP as a tongue-in-cheek commentary on the type of people that find themselves getting beaten up, not as real insights from some official. Indeed, in my experience, getting too drunk at some bar or club and acting like an obnoxious idiot stands a decent chance of landing you in a fight regardless of where you might be in the world.
And Trueblu, my guarantee was 100% hyperbole so please don't sue me if you find yourself getting your butt kicked by a big dude from Harbin.
Last edited by travelinmanS; May 28, 2012 at 10:59 pm Reason: fixing wording
May 29, 2012 | 1:02 am
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May 29, 2012 | 11:04 am
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Jun 12, 2012 | 8:56 am
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Worrisome
Received email today from the US Embassy, which sends warnings and notices out to all citizens who've registered with them. Repeated verbatim:
"In the early morning hours of Saturday, June 9, a group of local
nationals assaulted an employee of the U.S. Embassy in Beijing inside
the Element nightclub, located on the west side of Workers' Stadium near
Sanlitun. The employee, who was out with some colleagues, was hit in
the head with a sharp object as he was dancing away from the group.
According to witnesses, the employee fell to the floor and was
repeatedly beaten and kicked in the head by individuals serving as
bouncers for the nightclub. By all accounts, the attack was unprovoked.
This is not the first report of violence directed at U.S. citizens in
the nightclubs outside of Workers' Stadium. In September 2010, another
employee of the U.S. Embassy in Beijing was assaulted inside a different
nightclub at the north end of Workers' Stadium in another unprovoked
incident. Private U.S. citizens have also reported being victims of
crime in the nearby area.
U.S. citizens are reminded to use caution when enjoying the nightlife in
Beijing. Maintaining an awareness of your surroundings and keeping a
low profile are critical to avoiding potential problems.
The U.S. Embassy can be reached 24 hours per day. During business
hours, call 86-10-8531-4000 or email [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> . For emergencies after hours or on
weekends, call 86-10-8531-3000. The Embassy is located near the Line 10
LiangMaQiao subway stop at 55 An Jia Lou Road, Chaoyang District. The
Embassy's website is http://beijing.usembassy-china.org.cn
<http://chengdu.usembassy-china.org.cn/beijing.usembassy-china.org.cn> .
If you are residing or traveling in China, we recommend that you enroll
with the U.S. Embassy's Smart Traveler Enrollment Program at:
https://travelregistration.state.gov
<https://travelregistration.state.gov> . You should also regularly
monitor the Department's Bureau of Consular Affairs Internet website at
http://travel.state.gov <http://travel.state.gov/> while living or
traveling abroad."
Watch yourselves, and that goes not only for Americans but for all foreigners. Unlike other such incidents, this one might actually get the attention of the regular police and diplomatic police (there is a special force that deals with crimes/incidents against diplomatic personnel). I will try to keep my ear to the ground as to what happens to the perpetrators, if anything.
"In the early morning hours of Saturday, June 9, a group of local
nationals assaulted an employee of the U.S. Embassy in Beijing inside
the Element nightclub, located on the west side of Workers' Stadium near
Sanlitun. The employee, who was out with some colleagues, was hit in
the head with a sharp object as he was dancing away from the group.
According to witnesses, the employee fell to the floor and was
repeatedly beaten and kicked in the head by individuals serving as
bouncers for the nightclub. By all accounts, the attack was unprovoked.
This is not the first report of violence directed at U.S. citizens in
the nightclubs outside of Workers' Stadium. In September 2010, another
employee of the U.S. Embassy in Beijing was assaulted inside a different
nightclub at the north end of Workers' Stadium in another unprovoked
incident. Private U.S. citizens have also reported being victims of
crime in the nearby area.
U.S. citizens are reminded to use caution when enjoying the nightlife in
Beijing. Maintaining an awareness of your surroundings and keeping a
low profile are critical to avoiding potential problems.
The U.S. Embassy can be reached 24 hours per day. During business
hours, call 86-10-8531-4000 or email [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> . For emergencies after hours or on
weekends, call 86-10-8531-3000. The Embassy is located near the Line 10
LiangMaQiao subway stop at 55 An Jia Lou Road, Chaoyang District. The
Embassy's website is http://beijing.usembassy-china.org.cn
<http://chengdu.usembassy-china.org.cn/beijing.usembassy-china.org.cn> .
If you are residing or traveling in China, we recommend that you enroll
with the U.S. Embassy's Smart Traveler Enrollment Program at:
https://travelregistration.state.gov
<https://travelregistration.state.gov> . You should also regularly
monitor the Department's Bureau of Consular Affairs Internet website at
http://travel.state.gov <http://travel.state.gov/> while living or
traveling abroad."
Watch yourselves, and that goes not only for Americans but for all foreigners. Unlike other such incidents, this one might actually get the attention of the regular police and diplomatic police (there is a special force that deals with crimes/incidents against diplomatic personnel). I will try to keep my ear to the ground as to what happens to the perpetrators, if anything.