Quiet protest
#2
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Refuse to show my ID to anyone.
Educate the world as best I can about how stupid the policies are and, more importantly, what they actually are. The fact that the TSA still insists ID is "required" when in reality it is meerly requested is a great example of why we need to do a better job of educating others rather than just bemoaning the situation around here.
Educate the world as best I can about how stupid the policies are and, more importantly, what they actually are. The fact that the TSA still insists ID is "required" when in reality it is meerly requested is a great example of why we need to do a better job of educating others rather than just bemoaning the situation around here.
#3
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Join Date: Dec 2007
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Any Canadians know if ID checking is optional at Canadian airports as well?
Edit: Nevermind Canadians DO : http://www.passengerprotect.gc.ca/identity.html. Funny, most Canucks say America is like a police state and yet we're the ones that required ID to fly and the US doesn't.
Edit: Nevermind Canadians DO : http://www.passengerprotect.gc.ca/identity.html. Funny, most Canucks say America is like a police state and yet we're the ones that required ID to fly and the US doesn't.
Last edited by maniac78; Apr 28, 2008 at 2:22 pm
#4
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Transborder (to the US) with preclearance you have to provide ID to the US ICE (Immigration) officer before admittance even to the security check.
* they are in fact prohibited by law from doing so, and unlike the TSA do not make up the rules for themselves. Mostly.
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You should also add in without slowing down all of those people behind you to your pointless activity. It would be sort of ironic if you came up with ideas on how to protest about how slow security policies have made things by slowing down security policies even more.
#7
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You should also add in without slowing down all of those people behind you to your pointless activity. It would be sort of ironic if you came up with ideas on how to protest about how slow security policies have made things by slowing down security policies even more.
#8



Join Date: Dec 2002
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Genral,
As others will point out... Slowing things down for everyone is a legit form of protest. In fact, not showing ID is actually just following the rules. Not the rules that the powers that be want you to, but following the rules to make a point. ID does not equal security.
As others will point out... Slowing things down for everyone is a legit form of protest. In fact, not showing ID is actually just following the rules. Not the rules that the powers that be want you to, but following the rules to make a point. ID does not equal security.
#9
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Indeed, this may just be the only way change can come. Civil disobedience has to affect everyone, not just those protesting and their "oppressors" or it is actually rather ineffective. A diner sit-in affected the diner owner and its patrons, in addition to those sitting there. The march to vote in Texas earlier this year disrupted traffic on the highway, in addition to those marching. You get the idea.
I do not go out of my way to be slower above and beyond the SSSS process (though I do require clean gloves), but I will continue to make things more difficult for the TSA, consuming their resources in hopes that others are also affected and begin to demand change.
#10
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So I think one way I'll protest is by presenting the GA with my library card and my health card which are both government issued. They'll surely stop me and say I need photo ID to which I'll respond read the regs again which will surely slow down boarding.
I'll also give the CATSA guy my printed boarding card and I'll ask him or her to keep it or throw it away as I've made several copies. I'll "forget" to take out the freedom bag and I'll have the usual "this bag is keeping us all safe" written on it. All electronics will remain in my carry on.
I'll put a liter of water in my bag with a label on it saying "medicinal water" on it and see if they like that. If they don't like it I'll stand there holding up the line while drinking the water. I'll not empty my pockets, take off my shoes or anything before going through the brain wave analyzer. Being wanded will ensure my fellow passengers are safer anyway.
I'll also give the CATSA guy my printed boarding card and I'll ask him or her to keep it or throw it away as I've made several copies. I'll "forget" to take out the freedom bag and I'll have the usual "this bag is keeping us all safe" written on it. All electronics will remain in my carry on.
I'll put a liter of water in my bag with a label on it saying "medicinal water" on it and see if they like that. If they don't like it I'll stand there holding up the line while drinking the water. I'll not empty my pockets, take off my shoes or anything before going through the brain wave analyzer. Being wanded will ensure my fellow passengers are safer anyway.
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You should also add in without slowing down all of those people behind you to your pointless activity. It would be sort of ironic if you came up with ideas on how to protest about how slow security policies have made things by slowing down security policies even more.
Don't occupy those lunch counter seats, you might inconvenience others with your pointless activity!
Don't take those seats in front of the bus, you might inconvenience others with your pointless activity!
Don't gather in groups of more than three when holding a protest! You might inconvenience others with your pointless activity.
#13
Join Date: Apr 2008
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I don't mind a good protest one way or the other, but what if I don't want to miss my plane in the process?
I have once seen a guy hand over two baggies of liquids just squirted into the baggies. The TSO's didn't seem to care, just shrugged there shoulders and ran the stuff through the x-ray. Not the response he was looking for I am thinking.
I have once seen a guy hand over two baggies of liquids just squirted into the baggies. The TSO's didn't seem to care, just shrugged there shoulders and ran the stuff through the x-ray. Not the response he was looking for I am thinking.
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You should also add in without slowing down all of those people behind you to your pointless activity. It would be sort of ironic if you came up with ideas on how to protest about how slow security policies have made things by slowing down security policies even more.
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I don't mind a good protest one way or the other, but what if I don't want to miss my plane in the process?
I have once seen a guy hand over two baggies of liquids just squirted into the baggies. The TSO's didn't seem to care, just shrugged there shoulders and ran the stuff through the x-ray. Not the response he was looking for I am thinking.
I have once seen a guy hand over two baggies of liquids just squirted into the baggies. The TSO's didn't seem to care, just shrugged there shoulders and ran the stuff through the x-ray. Not the response he was looking for I am thinking.

