Purchase an offensive weapon airside!
Dec 11, 2006, 6:41 am
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Purchase an offensive weapon airside!
Think for a minute what the reaction of the TSA would be if you were to turn up at security carrying a large (3 - 4 ft) long piece of wood, about the diameter of a baseball bat.
Now go to ABQ, get airside and you can buy something exactly like that in one of the shops there. It was officially some fake artifact, but it was the perfect size and shape for hitting people with, and had sufficient heft to cause some damage.
Of course it isn't as dangerous as the 120ml bottle of contact lens solution that was confiscated from me in the UK last week.
Now go to ABQ, get airside and you can buy something exactly like that in one of the shops there. It was officially some fake artifact, but it was the perfect size and shape for hitting people with, and had sufficient heft to cause some damage.
Of course it isn't as dangerous as the 120ml bottle of contact lens solution that was confiscated from me in the UK last week.
Dec 11, 2006, 6:52 am
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A good friend brought a cricket bat back from Sydney (pre-911) and nobody cared (Singapore, London) until he went through security at JFK.
What kind of artefact?
In any case, bottle of vodka, rag, pack of matches from the cigar store - molotov cocktail.
What kind of artefact?
In any case, bottle of vodka, rag, pack of matches from the cigar store - molotov cocktail.
Dec 11, 2006, 7:35 am
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Only true cowards fear edged weapons airside.
Dec 11, 2006, 8:01 am
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As far as the second statement goes fear is no indication of cowardice.
Dec 11, 2006, 8:05 am
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Coward = one who shows disgraceful fear or timidity (www.m-w.com)
People who fear knives or other edged weapons on airplanes should stay home instead of imposing their irrational fears on others.
Dec 11, 2006, 8:06 am
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Dec 11, 2006, 8:09 am
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Dec 11, 2006, 8:14 am
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People can be killed with others' bare hands. However, no one is going to hijack an airplane bare-handed and no one is going to hijack an airplane with edged weapons.
Coward = one who shows disgraceful fear or timidity (www.m-w.com)
People who fear knives or other edged weapons on airplanes should stay home instead of imposing their irrational fears on others.
Coward = one who shows disgraceful fear or timidity (www.m-w.com)
People who fear knives or other edged weapons on airplanes should stay home instead of imposing their irrational fears on others.
courage and cowardice are all about facing your fears ...no matter what m-w.com says
and fear of an edged weapon isnt a disgraceful fear.
Dec 11, 2006, 8:17 am
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I see the point you are trying to make, but I still think it's exagerated. Think about it sensibly: should my grandmother stay at home just because she's fearful of people walking around the cabin with machetes hanging off their belt?
courage and cowardice are all about facing your fears ...no matter what m-w.com says and fear of an edged weapon isnt a disgraceful fear.
courage and cowardice are all about facing your fears ...no matter what m-w.com says
and fear of an edged weapon isnt a disgraceful fear.When you go to the mall, there are several stores selling these so-called weapons. Nobody seems to mind then. Why do people mess themselves about such items being airside at an airport? Because they are too stupid to do some critical thinking and realize that such items are no more a threat airside than they are landside.
Dec 11, 2006, 8:26 am
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Put it into perspective.
When you go to the mall, there are several stores selling these so-called weapons. Nobody seems to mind then. Why do people mess themselves about such items being airside at an airport? Because they are too stupid to do some critical thinking and realize that such items are no more a threat airside than they are landside.
When you go to the mall, there are several stores selling these so-called weapons. Nobody seems to mind then. Why do people mess themselves about such items being airside at an airport? Because they are too stupid to do some critical thinking and realize that such items are no more a threat airside than they are landside.
people are going to disagree with you, by the way ... it doesnt make them stupid or less of a "critical thinker" than you.
Dec 11, 2006, 8:34 am
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I wouldnt be surprised. Lot of the things found at the airport (airside)
that are more dangerous.
things like the posts/poles they use to manage the queues at the gate.
They are not bolted in.. and anybody could pick them up and move.
that are more dangerous.
things like the posts/poles they use to manage the queues at the gate.
They are not bolted in.. and anybody could pick them up and move.
Dec 11, 2006, 8:35 am
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Knives are everywhere. They cannot be used to hijack a plane. A gun can still be used to hijack or crash a plane. That's the difference between a credible and a non-credible threat.
Disagreement is fine. Disagreement without thinking definitely makes one less of a critical thinker and repeatedly making decisions without thinking about them pushes one into the "stupid zone".
Dec 11, 2006, 8:41 am
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yes ethanol will catch fire but 80 proof vodka is 40% alcohol and that wont sustain a fire. Bacardi 151 and Everclear are not allowed. But rubbing alcohol is! Go figure.