Registered Traveler Program Is Fake Security
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Yes, in short, Registered Traveler is a program that lets people pay an annual fee of $100 to cut to the front of the line. As for the background check? It's purely theater to make the public think the program is something other than a way for the well-off to avoid the hassles of post 9/11 airline travel. The TSA promises that the program won't slow down regular travelers, but that's plainly absurd. If it speeds up those willing to pay $100, it's going to slow down those unwilling or unable to do so, since there are currently no plans to add special screening lanes for Registered Travelers.
Yup, we're all in this together, except that some of us are more all in this together than others.
UPDATE:
Cindy Rosenthal, the vice president of communication for Verified Identity Pass, contacted me to correct and contest some of my points (I had left a message for her yesterday).
VIP does make lines faster for everyone for several reasons (based on a trial in Orlando and new equipment):
* The designated lanes include longer tables for separating a traveler's things into plastic containers and there is a conceierge to help with that process
* The Registered Traveler kiosks, specially made by GE (now an investor in VIP), also scan shoes so that travellers don't have to take their shoes off when they go through the metal detector (unless they have a significant amount of metal, such as with steel-toed boots or spike heels)
http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/200...ered_trav.html
Yup, we're all in this together, except that some of us are more all in this together than others.
UPDATE:
Cindy Rosenthal, the vice president of communication for Verified Identity Pass, contacted me to correct and contest some of my points (I had left a message for her yesterday).
VIP does make lines faster for everyone for several reasons (based on a trial in Orlando and new equipment):
* The designated lanes include longer tables for separating a traveler's things into plastic containers and there is a conceierge to help with that process
* The Registered Traveler kiosks, specially made by GE (now an investor in VIP), also scan shoes so that travellers don't have to take their shoes off when they go through the metal detector (unless they have a significant amount of metal, such as with steel-toed boots or spike heels)
http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/200...ered_trav.html
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A "concierge" ???? ROTFL!!!
If these folks can have a "shoe removal not needed WTMD" then why can't everyone else? What's a few hundred million $ in additional spending when you waste billions annually?
If these folks can have a "shoe removal not needed WTMD" then why can't everyone else? What's a few hundred million $ in additional spending when you waste billions annually?
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Think how "fast" it was for the puffer deployment. That's probably how fast those GE machines will be rolled out.
And this has the HUGE potential to backfire. They're going to have a SINGLE lane for this?
They're still going to check your ID and BP for the airline's revenue protection. No time saver there.
I do think a lot of business travelers are going to do this. Thus, that single line is going to be long in itself. Are they going to open up more of those lines, and reduce capacity for Ma and Pa Kettle? That has the potential of being another PR nightmare for the TSA. And bad PR is the only way the TSA has ever backed off of something.
So, in a way, I guess I'm endorsing this extortion without actually paying for it.
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* The Registered Traveler kiosks, specially made by GE (now an investor in VIP), also scan shoes so that travellers don't have to take their shoes off when they go through the metal detector (unless they have a significant amount of metal, such as with steel-toed boots or spike heels)
Think about it: prior to 8/10 many of us posted that there were no real benefits to registered traveler because you still went through the same screening as everyone else, avoided SSSS which as elites most of us rarely get anyway, and went to a supposedly shorter line which as elites most of us already get at big airports anyway.
Now post war-on-water, they could allow registered travelers to leave their shoes on and carry liquids through the checkpoint (since liquids are no longer banned in the sterile area and aircraft, their presence would not freak out the sheeple and cause evacuations and diversions). I suspect tens of thousands of frequent travelers would instantaneously sign up for such a program. Result: a huge hit for privacy and creation of a true two-class traveler system where the procedures and even prohibited items list are completely different. (And there would be no reduction in security, not because of the so-called background checks, but because normal shoes and liquids aren't viable threats anyway.)
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I continue to wonder if the main reasons the TSA went to "all shoes off" after 8/10, even though shoes had nothing whatsoever to do with the supposed liquid threat, was to create a tangible "benefit" for registered travelers to coerce people into using this anti-privacy program.

It doesn't but they think it does.






