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dtc Oct 5, 2006 2:09 am


Originally Posted by juanvaldez
I love the Transportation Stupidity Administration.

Today, flying SJC-SEA, I printed out their list of approved and prohibited items. When they saw my 4 oz bottle of saline solution, they said I cannot fly with it. I argued with them, and pulled out their list I printed from their web site.

If you want the email for the Customer Service Manager from the TSA for SJC, let me know via private message.

I emailed her about the same exact issue last week in Terminal A - and she apologized and said she would clear it up.

nrr Oct 5, 2006 2:31 am


Originally Posted by Dovster
Bart, are we talking about 3 ozs of weight or 3 liquid ozs (which is a size measurement)?

Also, will TSA screeners know what this translates into if I bring foreign containers with the sizes marked in grams or mls?

This is one of the "bad" features of the "american" measuring system--the same word for two different types of measures. One oz is a volume oz and the other a weight oz. I think the tsa rules (for liquids) refer to volume oz's. 33.8 oz (volume) = 1 liter. [In the metric system liter (litre) is a volume measure, gram is a weight measure--different words.]

Bart Oct 5, 2006 5:54 am

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Wally Bird Oct 5, 2006 8:24 am


Originally Posted by dtc
If you want the email for the Customer Service Manager from the TSA for SJC, let me know via private message.

I emailed her about the same exact issue last week in Terminal A - and she apologized and said she would clear it up.

Ah, but did she say when ? Apparently not.

Originally Posted by juanvaldez
The lady stated, "We don't follow that list, we have our own."

Which we have known all along. First time they have actually said as much though, I think.

Quick, retrain that err... lady - some SSI violation here shurely :rolleyes:

GeoGirl Oct 5, 2006 8:28 am

Just wanted to let everyone know that I made it through security in IND yesterday with my mini, hand-labeled and unlabeled bottles. : )

GG

par Oct 5, 2006 12:06 pm


Originally Posted by GeoGirl
Just wanted to let everyone know that I made it through security in IND yesterday with my mini, hand-labeled and unlabeled bottles. : )

GG


I had no problems today in SFO. Just a quick glance and they where deemed fine.

in fact i had a pleasant experience. The checkpoint was lightly trafficked and the girl at the metal detector wanted to chat for a bit. We spent a good 10 minutes talking (not about security), it was quite pleasant. There was no other customer there during that whole time.

DallasBill Oct 5, 2006 12:33 pm


Originally Posted by GeoGirl
Just wanted to let everyone know that I made it through security in IND yesterday with my mini, hand-labeled and unlabeled bottles. : )

GG

Yippie! Did they question them at all?

juanvaldez Oct 5, 2006 2:48 pm

The Ooze Test
 
In Seattle, I saw TSA doing the ooze test. Someone had a container of something that might have been gel. So they held it upside down for a minute. If it OOZED, then it's a gel, otherwise it was OK as a solid.

So I will now freeze everything right before going to the airport.

Points Scrounger Oct 5, 2006 2:53 pm


Originally Posted by juanvaldez
In Seattle, I saw TSA doing the ooze test. Someone had a container of something that might have been gel. So they held it upside down for a minute. If it OOZED, then it's a gel, otherwise it was OK as a solid.

So I will now freeze everything right before going to the airport.


I tried that logic @ BOS with my gel deodorant: it's one piece! :(

GeoGirl Oct 5, 2006 4:07 pm


Originally Posted by DallasBill
Yippie! Did they question them at all?

Nope. I wrote a full report here, post #1734.

:)
GG

ND Sol Oct 5, 2006 4:25 pm


Originally Posted by juanvaldez
In Seattle, I saw TSA doing the ooze test. Someone had a container of something that might have been gel. So they held it upside down for a minute. If it OOZED, then it's a gel, otherwise it was OK as a solid.

I think that the TSA should place on its homepage a picture of this procedure being done. Heck, I would like to have a picture of that. Think of the possibilities. :D

ladysoleil Oct 5, 2006 4:29 pm


Originally Posted by studentff
(emphasis mine)
It's going to be a nightmare scenario if TSA starts stealing/confscating items based on lack of label, and if they do that I'll go right back to smuggling the items like I've been doing since 8/11.

They had better exercise some common sense and recognize that anything that fits "comfortably" in the quart-sized bag is pretty much under 3 oz. But I'm not hopeful.

Late to the party, since I just got back from the Bahamas, but yes, that's exactly what happened at EWR. My shampoo in a travel-sized 3 oz Nalgene bottle was confiscated because it was not labeled. Or, as the screener said, "I know it's not a threat, but I am taking it anyway".

Travel with unmarked containers at your own risk. It seems to be very much about what the screener thinks the rule is.

NittanyFlyer Oct 5, 2006 6:51 pm

Dear Bart,

I just wanted to confirm something that we were told at the airport this past weekend and confirmed by the TSA agent at the airport. Penn State's Ag program produces great ice cream and packs it to go in dry ice. We didn't buy any since we could never imagine that ice cream, not alone dry ice, would be allowable under the new rules.

However, a guy on our flight was able to bring the ice cream in a bag on board in his carry-on as long as there was no more than 4 lbs. of dry ice. The concern seemed to be more over the dry ice than the ice cream.

Does this work?

Thanks in advance.

GeoGirl Oct 5, 2006 7:31 pm


Originally Posted by ladysoleil
Late to the party, since I just got back from the Bahamas, but yes, that's exactly what happened at EWR. My shampoo in a travel-sized 3 oz Nalgene bottle was confiscated because it was not labeled. Or, as the screener said, "I know it's not a threat, but I am taking it anyway".

Travel with unmarked containers at your own risk. It seems to be very much about what the screener thinks the rule is.

WHAT? What did you say/do? Did you ask for a supervisor?

Remember: bring your prohibited items list printout and Bart's instructions to speak with a GSC so you know what to do and say when this happens. That is NOT right!!! Plus, it should NOT be up to the screeners to interpret the rules. ARGH!!! :mad:

GG <- my troublyness seems to be increasing, LOL

Superguy Oct 5, 2006 7:36 pm


Originally Posted by GeoGirl
GG <- my troublyness seems to be increasing, LOL

Is that a Stephen Colbert word?


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